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12 minutes ago, Liverpoolfan said:All I need to know is when can I get covered from head to toe in oil again???
im going into withdrawal here ????
Reading another internet news page, it seems the entertainment idea is going to be shut down for some time. They have five key reforms and opening up entertainment seems to be a long way down on the list.
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3 minutes ago, Logosone said:
There are two considerations here, one, does an industry have a strong lobby? The agricultural lobby is very strong for instance, so they already succeeded in Germany and the UK to obtain special privileges to get back to business.
The second is whether a sector is considered "key" or "essential". Obviously food will be considered such.
Bars, karaoke, massage spas and such will be unlikely to be considered such and have no lobby to speak of.
I agree with you totally. The essential services should get back to some form of normalcy. Places like Pattaya are going to be hit hard from this. I cannot see these areas opening up for some time. I wonder if they are going to keep a curfew for a bit longer.
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In the paper that must not be named, they are talking about 5 exit strategies. It was a good read. It's on the front page of the website currently.
Sorry to say one of the strategies was this. Looks like Pattaya is frigged for a long time boys.
He admitted high-risk businesses, such as bars, karaokes, entertainment places and gambling dens, would have to be closed for a long time.
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In the paper that must not be named, they are talking about 5 exit strategies. It was a good read. It's on the front page of the website currently.
Sorry to say one of the strategies was this. Looks like Pattaya is frigged for a long time boys.
He admitted high-risk businesses, such as bars, karaokes, entertainment places and gambling dens, would have to be closed for a long time.
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How are they going to control this. Open up the borders say to Countries like America that do not have it under control and your going to get a spike in numbers again. Only takes a few boxing ring events to get this all off and started again. How can this virus ever be contained.
Like I said yesterday, any Government is between a rock and a hard spot.
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I have been here for 10 years. The first 5 years I made all the normal mistakes; bar girls, party, lost a little bit of money on the girls and then met my wife. She did not come from a bar and I was suddenly pushed into the Thai world of all her friends and family being a relativity normal world. Luckily, her family is small and Middle Class and her friends she has known since birth. She only has two real friends and both of them treat me like I am a big brother now. My life is stable and I am very happy. We mix more socially with Thais then farangs. My life is based around my home and village and Thai people see this, see that I treat my family good, that I don't drink and respectful to them.
In my previous life, I did the bars and met all types of farangs and Thais. I was pretty wild. Out of hundreds of people I met, only two now to this day remain as what I call friends. Being Thailand, just about everyone that I met was here only for a short time and friendships could not be made. Being a expat in Thailand is different to when I was a expat in China. Thailand tends to pull in more the dregs of society. When I worked in China, it was in a professional approach and my foreign friends were much the same as me, working in a similar guise. I had more problems from farangs in Thailand; mainly people wanting to borrow money and I would not yield to them. Problem is mostly, just about everyone that lives in my village that is a farang, is a a drunk. Drinking at 9 in the morning until the sun goes down and life revolves around a beer and weed. It gives a bad impression but that is there life to do with it what they wish.
I only need my wife and her social circle; I need little else to keep me happy. My two friends I see once a month but it is no more then maybe two hours for the visit. The lock down has not affected me a great deal at all. We do almost the same thing all the time and we are happy with it. In fact, I saved enough money this month from not going out to eat at restaurants like we normally do, that I bought a new TV.
In my home country of Australia I knew many, many people but only had two friends.
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7 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:The old folk are gonna die at some point, or do you want everyone to just go on living and be a burden on future generations ??
My parents are in there 80's and are very healthy. Both my parents swim over a kilometer a day and go on long walks. They were excellent business people and made a great deal of money and now they are really enjoying themselves. My Grandmother lived to 99 and died because of a Flu. She was always fit and healthy. No one has the right to say who lives and dies.
I prefer my parents get a even shake of the stick - not just to die off now that they are old and useless or a 'burden' when they are not, to the young ones.
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1 hour ago, colinneil said:
Just got our bill, saved 18 baht, with the 3% discount, maybe buy my wife something nice with it.????
I saved 91 baht- my wife went on Shoppe and bought me a pair of pants delivered for 72 baht. My highest bill in ten years because of staying at home - 3000 baht
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1 hour ago, natway09 said:
The airports will bring in death & destruction
I cannot for the life of me see a pretty ending in which ever way you go.
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42 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:Yes indeed.Do you or have you care/d about the flu fatalities here in Thailand for the past 10 years?
Two years ago I got the flu and ended up with Pneumonia. I spent 16 days in hospital. I was only 48 at the time and have never been so sick in my life (until later that year my gallbladder hemorrhaged in me and almost died). I knew you could get sick from the flu but never thought I could die from it. I felt like I was drowning and it also felt like my heart was going to burst. It scared me deeply.
If Covid-19 is anything similar (or worse) to what I got back then, it would be terrible for anyone to suffer. Anyone that does not take the flu seriously or now Covid-19 has really no idea how sick you can become. Most survive but YOU can die from it.
These numbers they are giving us seem too good to be true. How are we going to open this country up again when we have a chance a second imported wave may come in and destroy all the work that has been done to this point.
We are between a rock and a hard place. Do we open up early or keep the brakes on?
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Second Stage trails in China. I saw it on PBS World yesterday.
500 people are being used in the second stage trail
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If these restrictions keep my parents that are both in there 80's safe, I am all for it.
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1 hour ago, kevin612 said:
I agree, entertainment are the last to open because everyone wants no social distance with the partner.
I have to agree. None of my friends would keep 2 meters away from a
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Just now, fruitman said:
But but @madmen has never met an aussie with a healthcare insurance as he wrote....and i think he is one of them.
I have Insurance here - One Million USD a year. That should cover everything
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After thinking about it for a hour, I would prefer Australia due to a few things. I am only two minutes walk away from a World Class beach, health care is free and with the AUD to Baht being in the toilet, it is not much more expensive to live in Australia IF you own your own house or condo outright like we do.
I don't go out and eat pub meals or go to restaurants. Even here in Thailand, most of it is home cooking. I am married, don't need a bar or girl. I don't drink. I miss clean air and the beach a great deal. Chiang Mai has not got clean air and it is a long way to the beach. My wife after getting PR in Australia can become a Resident easy. Sure I may pay twice the amount for a coffee but you won't get the beach-side view I have got. If you drink, well, it's not cheap but then you have decent wines. The beef is real beef and even the taste of milk is different. I would kill for some Lamb now.
Thailand has treated me good; great wife and great family but nothing in the back of my mind beats the beach, free health care and clean air. I will remain in Thailand most likely for another 10 years but when my health insurance here gets too out of reach even for me, going home may well be the answer.
For many here, lack of funds in Australia and being on most likely a old age pension, living in Australia is not that easy, so most of SEA beckons. I know many Australian guys here that have nothing in Australia and no way back. With losing a massive amount in currency value, many of these people would barely make 34,000 a month now and would have had to tighten the belt a lot. For me personally now, it is about the same price to live in Australia to Thailand now once again, if you own your own property.
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I prefer Australia for many reasons but I married a Thai that loves her home here. Maybe after her parents die I will spend more time in Australia but till then, Thailand is my home and I shall not complain about it. Thailand has been good to me.
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5 minutes ago, Walter Travolta said:
Makes sense does it not? It would be a tad backward for them to open Pattaya and let every one rush back here from all over Thailand?
Yes, from another Thai Visa article
- Thai media has referred to Pattaya as the yolk of the egg - an analogy about it being a center of the virus.
Does not make sense.
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1 hour ago, seeyoujimmy said:
This lock down has not been a problem for me, as I was just telling my 6ft invisible rabbit friend Harvey
You know Harvey as well? Lol!!!! Likable fellow
From the Nation today -
''In the future, foreign tourists wanting to visit Thailand will have to apply a month ahead and must agree to a 14-day quarantine upon entering the country. He said this move may help the private sector arrange quarantine sites for visitors.''
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15 minutes ago, lemonwaterjoe said:
The Nation writes today:
""“In the future, foreign tourists wanting to visit Thailand will have to apply a month ahead & must agree to a 14-day quarantine upon arrival.”""
So if they open like this NOBODY will come.
How would you like it to open? Having hoards of Americans and Italians rolling in doing a free for all? Opening the cesspit bars and having the worlds oldest trade spread the virus even more?
This is going to be a major problems for all Countries. You don't need much of a flare up of cases to get this virus started it seems and it spreads well. Just a few boxing stadium events like we had with carries could bring the whole house of cards crashing down. Even just a few busy bar/nightlife venues could do it. To date, the young people in Thailand seem to be those that spread the virus. Why do you think they suspended flights coming in to 30th of April - they just do not want to risk it at this given time. I think the Government knows tourism is trashed for this year, so they are better off getting some form of a lid on it now rather then later. Almost for sure, there will be other waves over time until either a vaccine is made or the virus has been around long enough for us to develop some herd immunity to it but in reality as others said, none of us knows this. It's going to take time to work all this out.
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3 minutes ago, Why Me said:
Forget the numbers. See what's visible to the naked eye:
1. Are hospitals overwhelmed with C-19 a la NY. No. That would be impossible to keep out of local/international media.
2. Is Thailand scrambling on the international market for ventilators/HCQ/PPE? No.
3. How alarmed is Thai social media? I am not fluent enough in Thai to follow but from the few Thais I talk to, not much. This is particularly significant because bad news will leak locally.
If we got numbers coming out like NY, it would be splashed all over social media. With this focused based testing they are doing now, your not going to get high numbers unless you test higher numbers.
As other posters mentioned, I would love to know Thailand's magic formula in staving off a pandemic. We had hundreds of thousands of Chinese from hot spots let in and so far to date, we are up their with the numbers of being world beaters in repressing this outbreak. In reality I hope it is true but how certain can we be.
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I suffer a serious mental illness, so before all this came along, most my time was spent at home with occasional trip to a coffee shop or a ride in the mountains on my motorcycle. My wife tends to look after me and I am still only young (50). My life has not changed much; you should try to exercise somewhat. I have a spin bike and do a few hours a day on it. It makes me feel better. I fight both with Mania and Depression. When I am manic, I cannot stop. When depressed, weeks in bed at a time. I read a lot and listen to Audio books almost every day. I try not to follow to much news as it makes me depressed, and having a depressive disorder just makes it all the worse. Just moving about is important.
So my life is not too badly affected. Hardest part is keeping a healthy mindset with all this bad news. We are at this stage lucky to be in Thailand. I would hate to be in the US, Europe or England now. This will all be over one day and everyone will be able to get back to a life again but maybe with a few extra restrictions. Covid-19 is going to be with us for a long time, so we better get use to it. I feel that a lot of people may be stressed at this stage and peoples mental health is going to suffer.
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10 minutes ago, JCP108 said:I might not be aware of it...then, that would mean that an extra 950 people could die monthly
I am more worried about a extra 300-400 people dying daily of covid-19 in a area like Bangkok. I am talking like what is going on now in the UK, US, Italy and Spain in such numbers. It would be noted. Someone would see this. Thai social media would talk.
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1 hour ago, LeamchabangLarry said:
Monitor social media and the signals from individuals.
Like here. Small hospital treating covid-19 patients and not enough doctors. Social media is stronger here then most think. The number of ICU beds I would gather is a static number in most hospitals. If they got overwhelmed like Italy or Spain, someone would be saying something.
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Lowest number of Covid-19 cases in a month raises hopes of easing lockdown restrictions
in Thailand News
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The coming storm by Boon Vanasin (copy and search) from the paper that cannot be linked (another poster said this as well) is a must read. It is 5 days old but gives you a very good scope of what could happen if things went sideways from this point and how some hospitals are handling things.