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Around 50% of Republicans believe the Big Lie. Not true? 43% of Republican believed pizzagate conspiracy theory, not true? Do 50% of Democrats believe that Trump has been elected thanks to massive voter fraud? Did 43% of Democrats believe that Republicans used to rape, and drink the blood of children in the basement of a pizzeria which has no basement?

And one sentence summarises it quite well! "Because the defendant cannot point to any statements expressing actual bias, all he can say—and he says it repeatedly—is that the Court's comments 'suggest' some sort of bias or prejudice toward the defendant," Smith added.

Disagreeing on opinions is not necessarily bad. It's part of the democratic debate and plays an essential role in democracies. It may lead to convergence of opinions, at least on some issues. However, there can be no democratic debate when facts are not acknowledged. If you ask so-called left-wing members (who are actually "center" by international standards), whether Biden is too old, most of them would agree to it. That's a fact. The disagreement is about whether being old is equivalent to being inefficient. And in this case again, we find the issue of facts. There are uncontestable facts: GDP growth compared to comparable countries (ex G7), inflation compared to other countries, unemployment rate compared to previous periods of time, evolution of wholesale oil price worldwide. There could be an interesting discussion about how and why, and to which extent the Biden administration may be responsible for it. It happens sometime, but it's usually just "Biden old", "Biden is ruining the economy" etc... Haven't you noticed the number of post recalling the same facts over and over, in response to posts making the same baseless claims over and over? And again, some issues are more fundamental than others, such as elections. What to say to elections deniers? "You are a bit right"? Would it decrease their confidence in the big lie, or instead increase it? In other western democracies, there may be strong divergences of opinions, and as I said It's not necessarily a bad thing. Facts may be sometimes "forgotten", downplayed, over-emphasised, etc... but I have never observed such a level of denial of facts as in the U.S. by the current dominant right-wing stream.

The problem that, if they really do it seriously, there won't be any influential persons left. ????

Your post is a good demonstration of what I explained in my initial post. There can be no agreements whith people living in an alternate universe .

No no! We have posters here claiming that the GOP decision has nothing to do with Trumps impeachment! ????

It's completely irrelevant. That was before elections, and at that time Democrat voters were worried about voter supression and foreign interference (from the linked article), not fraud. Republican voters believed they would be fraud (Trump was already making this claim before elections, as every time he expected to lose). No precise claims have been made at that time. After claims have been made and debunked by recounts, audits, judges, etc... and several Republicans having stated or even testified that it was B.S., Republicans are still claiming elections have been rigged. Facts: no significant voter suppression and no significant voter fraud occurred in 2020. Only on one side did opinions ultimately conform to facts.

The key problem is not the presence of different point of views, it is about disagreeing on facts or just ignoring them (and that's a polite way to express it). For example, more than 50% of Republicans think the 2020 elections have been rigged and that Trump was the winner (including members of this forum).

So, the NYPost got a copy of the laptop 3 years ago, from Giuliani who got it 4 years ago. Are you believing that: - if there were any incriminating evidence on the laptop, the right-wing NYPost would not have already found it and published it? - If there were any incriminating evidence on the laptop, Giuliani, whose mission for Trump has been to get dirt on Biden, would not have disclosed it? Really?

I agree. If Hunter Biden is found guilty by a Jury, he should be punished in the same way as anyone else would be, not more nor less. No rant about corrupt judge and other B.S.

So the max. production has been 13,000 (during one month only), and was 12,844 in May (the last available number). And that would be enough to consider Biden responsible for the oil price increase which occurred during the last three months? You can't be serious! On top of it, crude oil exports are now higher than under Trump (not to mention the surge in gas production and exports). https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCREXUS1&f=M in

It was already at 12,844 in May.

It seems you are getting it the wrong way. It's not hate which leads to dislike what Trump does or says. It's what Trump does and says which generates hate. Actually It's not really hate, It's more like contempt. Ahem! Science and facts?

Why doesn't the House committee just subpoena Hunter Biden? I find it very strange. It looks like they don't want to do it for some reason.

And the GOP quickly stopped it 6 months later.

Around $28,000. It's peanuts for an American.

Let's start with an easy one! Jim Jordan Just Got Busted With Evidence Of His Hunter Biden Lies https://www.politicususa.com/2023/04/21/jim-jordan-just-got-busted-with-evidence-of-his-hunter-biden-lies.html

Which evidence?

As usual with MAGA posters, it seems that you pick up what you like in a testimony, and ignore what you don't like. Archer also told that discussions on the phone with Biden were casual and not about business, and that Joe was not involved in their business. He also gives some explanations about their work for Burisma. As to explanations about Hunter's revenues, you can also find them in his testimony during the July 26 hearing.

And one major cause is the increase of oil price worlwide recently. Are you claiming that Biden is responsible for the recent global oil price increase? https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/

And (before and) after that, Trump will claim elections have been rigged.....

November 2022 https://truthout.org/articles/twice-impeached-trump-wants-to-know-how-many-times-gop-will-impeach-biden/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/biden-impeachment-trump-republicans-midterms-1234625755/

And the best source is this one (a bit long to read) https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/

Sure! https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/12/trump-privately-discussed-biden-impeachment-with-house-gopers-00115357 https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4174481-trump-presses-republicans-to-impeach-biden-or-fade-into-oblivion/ https://truthout.org/articles/twice-impeached-trump-wants-to-know-how-many-times-gop-will-impeach-biden/

Putin must be delighted