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  1. 50 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

    Nonsense. The US instituted a travel ban the same day as Italy. Luck? No. Viruses don't spread based on luck. They spread based on scientific factors. However, I can see why you'd want to go with luck.

     

    Trump sure was lucky the virus didn't spread worse!

    Cuomo sure was unlucky the virus spread so much!

     

    Pure poppycock.

    The travel ban was implemented a bit earlier than the US but you are right +/- 2days didn't really matter. So both countries have implemented a  China travel ban (full ban for Italy only) more or less at the same time. One of these two countries got infected earlier than the other one. What is this mysterious reason I should know that you evoked in your post, as it cannot be a difference in China travel bans?

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  2. 59 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

    They probably knew before Trump. However, I'm sure Trump knew about it well before he started suggesting it as a possible therapy. Many leftists think he just throws stuff out without thinking about as his common strategy. Trump has rope-a-doped them enough times to know that's not the case.

     

    I am still bewildered that so many on the left appear to literally be hoping chloroquine doesn't work. It's the strangest thing. It's almost as though they prefer more people die than Trump be correct. Bizarro times we live in.

    Yeah, Trump has a proven track of only making well informed and predictive statements, lol! Such as

    February 20: "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done," ????

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/timeline-president-donald-trump-changing-statements-on-coronavirus/

     

    There is no way Trump can be more informed than the most authoritative sources in the world. He's just making a bet. If it works he will try to get some advantage of it. If it doesn't work, people like you will explain us that he was just expressing his hope that it could work!

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  3. 14 hours ago, rabas said:

    About 2 weeks before Trump's comment, Thailand stopped the sale through pharmacies even with prescription, and hospitals began hoarding their supplies for inpatient use only. Thailand obviously recognized Chloroquine's potential value before Trump.

     

    In fact, everyone knew, doctors everywhere knew, I and many knew, it has been known for more than a decade since SARS. Trump was the last to know.

     

    Then why is the American MSM manufacturing such a blatantly false perspective? Chloroquine costs 5 cents per tablet. An entire long treatment is less than $1. The $4 trillion per year health industry is not happy. 

    MSM manifacture what? They just relay the assessment of most experts. It may well be efficient but there is no conclusive study yet. There is a large scale trial going on in Europe so we can hope this matter will be soon clarified

     

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  4. 7 hours ago, rabas said:

    This was said to carefully avoid the word pandemic at the time. This resulted in many saying "See not a problem" even here at TV. This was part of the cover up, China's plan.

     

    NB: you can press  Tx  in the menu bar to remove all text formatting.

    So in your vision of the world, governments get their information from media headlines (ok, maybe Trump does)? National health organisations have close contact with the WTO, they have access to all available information. By the way, information has been published nearly every day by the WHO

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic_in_February_2020

     

    And about your last comment:

    "This resulted in many saying "See not a problem" even here at TV."

    ????

    You and other TVF Trumpers have been making a barrage of posts for weeks to downplay the pandemic, arguing that Dems, the so-called experts and MMS were aiming at creating panic, now claim that the information about the severity of the spread was not available. 

    So if Trumpers made a barrage of posts to criticize the Dems, the experts and the MSM for allegedly overstating the crisis, it's because the information was widely displayed, right?

     

    NB Thanks for the tip

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  5. 2 hours ago, RoadWarrior371 said:

    Timing is the issue here.  The WHO actually chastised countries that enacted proactive travel bans early on, and were late calling the spread to other countries, once again suckling China's gonads. Wake up and release your suction.

    The WHO sent clear warnings at least from 30 January.

     

    The WHO defines a PHEIC as an “extraordinary event” that “constitute a public health risk to other States through the international spread of disease” and “potentially require a coordinated international response.” 

    https://time.com/5774747/coronavirus-who-public-health-emergency/

    (I don't know why the text is barred)

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  6. 54 minutes ago, atyclb said:

    just trying to think objectively about chinas behaviour and the who.

     

    for some reason (and its late and i'm too tired to research it at the moment) a high level governam person in japan said who should be renamed to cho.  china health organization 

     

    Rename WHO as Chinese Health Organization: Japan slams UN body for ‘giving into China’s spin’

    Japan's Deputy PM Taro Aso slams WHO head Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus for his 'inadequate evaluation to address the coronavirus outbreak'.

    https://theprint.in/world/rename-who-as-chinese-health-organization-japan-slams-un-body-for-giving-into-chinas-spin/393961/

     

    Whistleblowers silenced by China could have stopped global coronavirus spread | 60 Minutes Australia

     

     

    Same as Trump: try to blame someone else for their failure. Japan refused to impose lockdown and is currently experiencing a surge of epidemic. Just as pathetic as Trump.

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  7. 5 hours ago, atyclb said:

     

    the act of threatening dr fauci is unacceptable regardless of origin.

     

    as the article you so graciously linked stated  "the source of the threats was not identified." why would i believe or disbelieve trump supporters are behind the threats?  because per the article the source is unknown

    That's the kind of problems which may arise when an issue which should have remained a scientic debate between health professional is used for political propaganda. Fauci contradicted Trump's statements on several occasions, including this one, thus preventing Trump from looking better than he really is.

    Some people may be angry at Fauci for other reasons, but it's unlikely.

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  8. 35 minutes ago, rabas said:

    And yet amazingly, the top six EU countries of equal population to the US have far more cases and vastly more deaths than the US. They were even using Chloroquine before Trump mentioned Chloroquine.

     

    EU-6 = UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland :  51,127 dead.

    US : 12,857 dead

     

    https://ncov2019.live/

     

    Why: EU was listening to you know WHO.

    It doesn't make sense to compare, at one point of time, two cases which are at different stages on the diffusion curve. If you look at the diffusion curve's profiles, it doesn't look better for the US. It will just reach these numbers later.

    As for the evoked causality, it doesn't make sense as the epicentre in Europe, Italy, implemented a CHINA travel ban before the US. It also implemented a full ban while the US only initially implemented restrictions.

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