Badrabbit

3 minutes ago, papa al said:

Is there an existing plate.

No need for new plate.

Was the green book officially transferred to your buddy's name.?

If not, then report it stolen w/ police and apply for new a LT office.

What provence.?

 

Yes bike has a plate and yes all was done correctly.

Phuket.

Just now, brianthainess said:

3 years after that, it's a long process, new book, new plates, can take days if not longer.

Well it's not my problem, it's down to them, I'm just helping them as much as I can.

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

AFAIK you can't do anything at the DLT without the log book.

Well yes I do know that 

41 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

It continues to be registered, you will just need to pay any back tax and any fees, oh yes and police fines if applicable 

This is on a really nice Z900SE it was mine from new, I sold it to my friend but he then got a job abroad and the bike has been sitting under cover, think its 5 or 6 years old now, the other problem is he has split with his wife and she wont let the log book go, I'm now looking after the bike untill they decide what they are going to do with it, it's only done 15000kms.

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I don't know, ask at the DLT office.

Yes I thought that but also thought someone might have the answer on here.

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Registration renewal is once a year, I would assume it expires when not renewed.

 

Plenty of bikes in my GF's village that are not registered, because they rarely go outside the village.

I'm talking about the number plate, would you have to re-register the bike in order to get a new plate and number.

If a bike is unused and not taxed and insured(government) how long is it before the registration expires.

A friend contacted me as he knew I was worried about this Tax thing, he said.

"Don't worry it's not going to happen, they have discussed it and it's not going to happen, they know it will drive a large majority of ex-pat's away to other countries"

Hope its true.

6 minutes ago, JimGant said:

 

There's no place on a Thai tax return to include income that is not assessable income. Thus, you would not include monies excluded by your country's tax treaty with Thailand. And monies remitted in a later year than year earned (under the old rules). Or monies remitted from a bank account funded pre Jan 1, 2024 (under the new rules). Thus, for most of us retirees, very little, if any, assessable income to include on a tax return, except maybe interest from your Thai bank account. So, if you have no taxable income (assessable income minus allowances, deductions, 150k freebie), no reason to file a tax return, as there's no penalty for not filing, if no taxes owed.

 

As an aside, because of the weird remittance rule for what's assessable income -- it's best to filter all remittances to Thailand through a home country or off shore bank account. And one established and funded pre Jan 1, 2024, if possible. Then, have all your wire transfers come from this account, backfilling it with only treaty exempt income, like gov't pensions for most of us. Thus, if this new rule takes effect, you're covered under the pre 2024 income being exempt. And should post 2024 additions to this bank account -- like reinvested interest -- come into question (not likely) -- your answer is you draw from the oldest deposits first (FIFO). Nothing likely to challenge this.

I wish I could understand any of that.

Just now, Yumthai said:

The current Head man of your Tax office is always right. The next one too.

Someone has to be.

3 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

Agreed and you are in the vanguard of providing an excellent information base on this subject (future tax obligations of resident expatriates).

 

But in this instance the subject was past filings and here you have been misleading.The vast majority of resident pensioner expatriates with no Thai income have not been filing returns.None of the major accounting firms in Bangkok nor the RD itself recommended this.

 

Please give it a rest.Most of us know the technical position.

I was told by the Head man at my Tax office, "do you want to pay tax here" my answer "no as I pay tax in the UK" "you can pay tax here or your home country up to you"

Is he right or not?

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Yes my experiences similar ... I know very few who have filed. Just myself and a couple of other cheapskates who wanted the withholding tax back. 

"Cheapskates" I pay tax in the UK on my Pensions, I didn't think I would be required to pay tax again here, If I had been told that I would have to I would and wouldn't have a problem with it.

2 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

You get your Tax Identification Number (TIN) from your local Tax office, it's free to get &  you'll need your Passport, Lease/Ownership Agreement, 2 Photos + Certificate of Residency with the stated purpose that it is for obtaining a TIN.

 

The Certificate of Residency is got from your local Immigration Office (300B) and will need your Passport, Lease/Ownership Agreement, 2 Photos + TM30 (Definitely need TM30 for Jomtien, not sure about other Immigration Offices), they will ask what it's for, just tell them it's to obtain a Tax Identification Number.

 

Thank you for the information.

I'm feeling better about this Tax thing as Mike Lister has kindly offered to help me understand it and hopefully how to do it.

I guess most laws are ignored here.

18 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Well I can't fault the care that was given to my old friend at Bangkok Phuket Hospital, and personally I've had "mixed experiences" there, and that is why I visited Bumrungrad hospital in Bangkok when my bladder stopped working, because nobody seemed to know why, and anyway Sheryl on this forum, recommended Dr Charuspong at Bumrungrad so I thought I'd give him a try, and was very pleased that I did (thank you Sheryl).

 

I had a very thorough going over with tubes and wires going into just about every orifice, before being hooked up to a computer for about an hour, and the result after meeting with the doctor (actually he is a urologist) was that I have a neurogenic bladder and there's not much that can be done about it, apart from clean intermittent catheterisation, done by yours truly, which is what I have been doing now for over a year, and getting by I may add.

 

However I did some investigation and found that a company called Medtronic in the USA makes a small device, similar to a pacemaker, which fits under the skin and the wire from it runs close to the sacral nerve, and it stimulates the nerve to work, thereby making the bladder contract, so it would/should make my bladder work again.

 

However, having got no satisfaction from the company themselves or any other hospital here, I did contact Dr Charuspong and he has just this morning contacted me by telephone (how brilliant is that in today's world) and explained the process to me and why it is not available in Thailand.

 

I won't go into the explicit details, but a first unit has to be inserted to see if it will work, then it is removed and the second one inserted, and this preliminary work takes about a week to 10 days, furthermore the whole thing will cost something like 700,000 baht, and it's not even sure that it works efficiently anyway, so he has answered my questions.

 

Back on topic I suppose there will be good and not so good doctors in many hospitals around the world, but going back to the original topic the care that my old friend received at Bangkok Phuket Hospital was excellent.

You are right in everything there is good and bad, everyone has an opinion which I have no problem with.

Unfortunately my Insurance does not cover Bumrangrad Hospital, I'm okay with Bangkok Phuket Hospital and the other Hospital's here apart from Vachira, I hope I never have to go there again, it was a nightmare visit.

On 1/4/2024 at 10:30 AM, Tropicalevo said:

What is the point in that?

There is a law about speeding - ignored.

There is a law about wearing crash helmets on bikes - ignored

There is a law about drink driving - ignored

There is a law about buying alcohol only during certain times - ignored

There is a law about selling cannabis with greater than .2 THC - ignored

There is a law about smoking in buildings - ignored.

There is a law about e cigarettes - ignored.

There is a law about excessive noise from modified bikes - ignored.

The list here is endless.

Is there a law about people not wearing a shirt in a shop because that really annoys me.

I've been told that Phuket Doctors are Mediocre and that Bangkok is the place to go, I've been to Phuket Bangkok Hospital, yes its expensive, I thought the Doctor was very professional, its not nice someone saying that you have wasted alot of money by attending a Hospital that has Mediocre Doctors in it, apparently I could have saved alot of money had I gone to Bangkok.

I suppose Everyone has there own opinion.

9 minutes ago, UKresonant said:

 

No unfortunately our DTA does not a a specific clause similar to the USA Social Sec , for the UK State pension scheme, (but further clarification on the state pension may evolve perhaps)

 

Especially if the majority of your pension service years were with the Fire Brigade, I'm already anticipating the various over 65 allowances shall reduce the amount of the Tesco and State pensions, that will be considered in any RD Tax calculation.

 

So I'm Guessing something like (monthly)

Fire Brigade = No Thai Tax

State Pension + Tesco Pension per month, take away about 32000 baht a month for allowances and the zero Tax band, then anything not cancelled out, if any, has only 5% tax (for the next 12.5k/month)

Sorry I'm thick when it comes to calculations, don't really understand what you have said. Sorry.

8 minutes ago, UKresonant said:

 

No unfortunately our DTA does not a a specific clause similar to the USA Social Sec , for the UK State pension scheme, (but further clarification on the state pension may evolve perhaps)

 

Especially if the majority of your pension service years were with the Fire Brigade, I'm already anticipating the various over 65 allowances shall reduce the amount of the Tesco and State pensions, that will be considered in any RD Tax calculation.

 

So I'm Guessing something like (monthly)

Fire Brigade = No Thai Tax

State Pension + Tesco Pension per month, take away about 32000 baht a month for allowances and the zero Tax band, then anything not cancelled out, if any, has only 5% tax (for the next 12.5k/month)

My Tesco penson is not worth considering as it's only approx 1700bht per month

11 minutes ago, UKresonant said:

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/international-manual/intm343040

 

Fire Brigade - paid directly by a Local Authority

Fire Brigade - paid by a Fire Authority (Fire Fighter's Pension Scheme)

 

These are classed a Government Pensions and are only taxed in the UK unless you have Thai Nationality!

 

I do not have Thai Nationality.

Is it the same for the UK state pension?

21 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

I honestly wouldn't worry about it as Thai RD already know how to handle people who's only income comes from Pensions & you can be assured that unless you have a huge pension any tax due in Thailand will be minimal. 

 

 

I'm not sure which country you're from but if you're from the UK you should get an annual statement for your Pensions (P60 for private ones, not sure what the State Pension one is called) & this/these are all you'll need to provide to the RD should you need to complete a Tax Return... They will pro-rata these out for you if your tax year doesn't align to the Thai Tax year (UK being 6th April - 5th April).

 

It's people who have more "Complicated" income like Salary/Income from Businesses outside of Thailand, Royalties, Capital Gains, Rental Income etc... That might have a harder job in completing their return & may need to file Tax Returns in the other countries to provide evidence to RD.

   

 

 

I have 3 Pensions tottaling 75,000bht per month, London Fire Brigade, Tesco UK and the UK Government State Pension.

How do I get a tax Id code from, where do I go and will it cost me money.

I'm very very worried about this, I have always done the right thing here, wear a crash helmet, have a licence, have never been a problem to anyone.

I've been very very ill over the last 3 years, I've got no one to help me, I don't know what to do or how to do it, I'm feeling very low and scared about my future now, Im 68 soon, I pay tax on my pensions from the UK and have done since being here(16 years) I want to do what's right but my mental health is a mess, I'm confused, scared and feel like life is not worth living, no I'm not going to anything silly, I have a Thai gf and her daughter to support, I won't let them down and never have since being with them for 16 years, I'm just very worried and in constant pain.

I've been to every Hospital on Phuket, not one has been able to stop my constant pain, I'm at an all time low.