richard_smith237

Wrong - this tragic incident was caused by clear negligence.... .... Negligence of the site supervisor.... negligence of the management teams... negligence of the safety inspectors.... and negligence of every individual responsible for oversight who allowed critical safety hazards to go unchecked. Accountability must be demanded from all parties involved to prevent such avoidable tragedies in the future - this has been said after previous incidents, it will be said after 'next weeks' incident'... These are not accidents.

"Self-appointed RTI expert" - Coming from you thats hilarious... so rich it’s clinically obscene.....

100%.... expecially with an infant or toddler on the bike... But to add to that point... when those on motorcycles don't wear helmets, and even though you've given them adequate room etc - the pull off the unbelievable and swerve suddenly infont of you and you knock them off... and because they are helmetless, they don't walk away from a bump which would have otherwise left bruises.... ... One of the reasons I argue 'people not wearing a helmet' impacts more than just the rider. And... Parents taking infants and babies on motorcycles impacts more than just them when something happens.

Do they also come in 1, 3 or 4 wheels ???

Seems like you already have... accusing them of being Israeli... just as you did in another thread and were called out for your trolling BS. ... where has Fred made anything up ?.... Just your usual provocation again, Malcy... pathetic.

Agreed... Both may well have been travelling at similar speeds and both simply failed to slow or stop at the intersection.... which, as reported had no lights... Why 'obviously' ??? there's not enough information to draw obvious blame - it would appear that both just drove across an intersection that has no lights (and is possibly poorly marked). Very tragic that this is the cultural norm... Note: This was a 49 year old, and her Mother... (two older ladies), nevertheless, that does not make your 'toddlers on motorcycles' comment any less valid regarding the tragedy when people die unnecessarily.... Whether with children, alone, or riding pillion etc... Riding across a junction without slowing shows a complete lack of self-preservation.... and exactly the same can be said of the pick-up rider for he could have met a lorry rather than a motorcycle.

Flipping ek... Yep... the foreigner (whatever nationality) was a total ayhole... deserves serious legal consequences for that attack... But... geeeeezzz... with such predictability, this thread has brought out the best of the cockwombles...

The 'real famous' one in that area is Siriraj...

Is that a new tech ? The tech is already there... the legal framework is the complicated issue. For example: look at your SatNav in some countries (i.e. UK) and it knows immediately when we cross into a 30pmh zone (on the display)... There are complexities of course (imagine going down a motorway at 70mph, and the car crosses under a 30mph road bridge... but that can easily be programmed out. Ultimately - its similar to 'driverless taxis' - the tech is already there, the legal framework isn't.

Arguable - as a Honda Click can hit 100kmh down sukhimvit road in BKK if they wanted to... A Ducati will get there a lot quicker and stop better.... ... But EV's are quicker off the mark - we have a BYD Seal thats faster than SuperCars with 0-100km in 3 seconds... So.... I think that ship has well sailed... The 'sweeping ban' is a Thai response, that impacts everyone even the responsible... unfair... That said: I don't think it will be too long before vehicles are Geo-located and speed limited to the 'area' they are in...

Me too... But, over the past 10 years I've 'devolved' down from a 'real bike' to a step-through scooter... A real bike is just impractical in BKK... but one think I noticed was my visibility - On a real bike, wearing proper kit, I was visible to other road users.... other motorbikes gave me more space, cars gave me space etc... ... Almost as if they knew I wasn't some 'worthless Somchai on a click' (no disrespect meant there just a descriptor), but on a real-bike (bigger) with kit - I suspect the drivers of other vehicles subconsciously 'noticed' someone of 'position' (i.e. sufficient to have a better bike etc)... though that could have been my own bias... I've noticed the same when driving very expensive, vs cheap smaller cars.... Now I have a scooter (step through style motorcycle for the pedantic) and mostly use it for very local journeys... its too hot and the car is just too comfortable - I don't care if it takes me twice as long in the car anymore...

Good - they're ankle savers if we ever needed to put our foot down at anything faster than 20kmh...

Both excellent bikes... I too have the kit, but also 'go light' when travelling very locally - however, I'm very strict with myself about the moment I think I might hit a 'main road' (i.e. away from my sub-soi's), then I'll ensure to but the 'kit on' as uncomfortable as that may be... Thats Bangkok though... That said: when I sandboxed in Phuket (Rawai & Bang Tao) - I used only helmet (open face), Gloves and trainers... I think we all end up compromising a lot of the time and threads like this are an additional reminder... a) That there are unhinged mental cases out there. b) That there are delusional folk out there who don't think Thai's on bikes are an issue and only think other foriegners are dangerous. c) never get complacent. Wife had a car accident last week, very minor - would have hurt if I was on a bike... a car suddenly change lanes and cut across her (100% not her fault) - it just shows ppl do anything at any time - completely unpredictable. Regarding location: Pattaya & Patong seem to have a concentration - but Phuket in general seems to have a long of unhinged characters... I would have been far more surprised to read that this occurred in Chiang Mai, Hua Hin, Kanchanaburi or Khon Kaen for example.

yeah, a thread about unhinged foreigners is right up your alley. have a field day, man. Do you have to go around warning people about yourself, being one of the most dangerous people on the roads because you are a foreigner ? OR... are you different and the sweeping generalisation is fitting of every other foreigner except yourself ???

Hardly a supermosque, its the size of a farmers barn, which is hardly pleasing on the eye. I've nothing against building a mosque - so long as they are not using tax payers money, my same argument would persist if it were a church being built. I've nothing against multiculturalism either - but what I am against is the shift in moral standards that evolves when those from 'alternative cultures' overwhelm area's and bring their own 'poorer' standards rather than adapting... I've worked with many different cultures in many different countries and always enjoyed the culture I'm in - but at the risk of sounding racist... the Pakistanis in the UK are perhaps the singular most objectionable group of 'people' I've had the displeasure to be exposed to - they are dangerous, IMO... Meanwhile I find Indians, the Chinese, Jamaicans etc and many other nationalities bring a colour and vibrance than enhances compliments, blends and enhances all cultures where differences are seen to be minor and similarities and overlap become more obvious...... I just don't get that with Pakistani's - if that makes a racists - so be it.....

Some crazies out there - but this guy seemed exceptionally unhinged... Where was it ? Wear your full face helmet, AirWave Protective riding jacket (elbow, shoulder, back protector), Riding Gloves, city riding boots (as below)... Protect tourself where practical and ride as defensivey as you can... thats all you can do. Here's a link to the Innov (expensive)... but it can prove your innocence when another to$$er rides into you, cuts you off etc... https://innovv.com/collections/2k-dashcam These boots look like normal footwear, but are reinforced, so better than trainers...

Tell me you're in Pattaya or Patong, without telling me you're Pattaya or Patong !!!! No... not as anyone would - part of the problem perhaps.. your reaction escalated. I got hit by a kid pulling out of a junction a few months back... getting angry isn't the option... Just pull over and see if there is any damage. Wife had an accident recently; other guy said it was her fault but didn't get angry, police said it was his fault done - but if no damage no harm... When you lost your temper, are you sure you didn't kick out at him or shout some bad language at him to trigger his further aggression ? He was of course wrong for a) hitting you and b) kicking at you while riding - some very unhinged people out there, stay safe... As mentioned already - its good to have a dash-cam on your bike. I can recommend the company Innov for forward and rear facing cams designed specificially for motorcycles (hard wired in - easy enough installation).

There is also the DVT risk after surgery which is elevated when flying - so there may be some recommended 'recovery time' before flying is advisable.

Valid points... But to see that you have 'two down thumbs' indicates the mentality of some of the audience who wish to be vocal but perhaps lack the words to articate their bigotry in a non-bigotted manner... so thumbs down it is. As you wrote - Thailand is great for many... but many complain. The UK is also great for many... but many complain. As the Op wrote - head out of the cities and the UK is a lovely place... I'm not interested in the cities in the UK, not interested in the slightest, many area's of many cities have been turned into absolute shyat-holes, perhaps due to changes in culture due to immigration, a lack of local pride, an absolute lack of enforcement, disempowerment of the policeforces etc... The unaffluent area's of many cities and major towns have been taken over what seems to be 'people who are for some reason 'un-policeable'... and who would be a policeman, when they can get fired for taking a knife of a 15 year-old in a manner some consider excessive (it was not a butter knife !)... That said,... the UK countryside area's are stunning.... I hope they stay that way, it will be devastating to see them 'evolve' in the same manner cities have, with fly-tipping, the unruly, gangs of lawless youths and police too scared to respond to anything... but right now, thats not so. So... UK Countryside - amazing !!... Cities not so. Immigration - who care's what 'race' meets me at boarder-force entry - they are usually polite enough to both myself and my wife...

I had no idea self reflection was one of your strong suits....

The symptoms, you refer to, are the body trying to rid itself of the toxic junk that has just been injected into it. Nothing to do with an 'immune' system at all. The 'term' is innate immune response... And you are correct... in layman's terms, its the body fighting to rid itself of pathogens.... Its everything to do with 'immune systems'... and its why 'cuts flare up' when infected etc... i.e. When a pathogen enters the body, the innate immune system responds first. Cells like macrophages and dendritic cells not only attack the invader but also capture and present pieces of it (called antigens) to cells of the adaptive immune system, especially T cells. This "hand-off" triggers a more specific and targeted immune response. B cells then produce antibodies tailored to that pathogen, and memory cells are formed. These memory cells "remember" the pathogen, so if it invades again in the future, the adaptive immune system can react much faster and more effectively. So, while the innate immune system doesn't build immunity itself, it activates and informs the adaptive system, which creates a longer lasting immunity. Of course - pathogenic viruses don't exist... so you won't believe any of that.

But that won't stop the boomer Alf-Garnets making statements along the lines of ... ... "I come back to me own bloody country, don't I, and it's a load o’ bleedin’ foreigners sat there, pokin’ about with me passport, tellin’ me whether I can come in or not! I mean, what’s the world comin’ to, eh? I fought for this country – well, me dad did – and now I need flippin’ permission to get in from someone who probably got off the boat last week!"

I haven't personally come across scams like this before, but if people are genuinely behaving that way, then I fully support a no-nonsense, hardline response. It's despicable conduct that preys on the trust of others. It's hardly surprising that in areas with heavy tourist traffic, the bad behaviour of a few individuals can create a broader sense of mistrust and resentment. That in turn leads to poor attitudes toward tourists more generally. But let's not forget - these high-traffic spots tend to attract scammers on both sides of the equation. It becomes a double-edged sword of suspicion and opportunism, fuelling a cycle of negativity. That’s exactly why I tend to steer clear of such areas whenever possible – unless I’m heading there to party with friends. In such situations, I’m just operating at a heightened level of awareness, ready to spot trouble before it starts which kind of impacts the enjoyment somewhat.

I've done similar... QR payment to a bar etc... only to walk away to another bar thinking the payment has gone through... ... Fortunately I noticed and back-tracked... But it would have been highly embarrassing to 'inadvertently' not pay, then find myself on the pages of 'The Tiger' being accused of being a 'Drink and Dash Brit'.... then have all the posters demand my deportation for such obnoxious behavior !!!!

Wrong... 'the 'going price for a Thai Massage' is whatever it says it is on the menu in the shop !!!... it varies from establishment to establishment, with or without AC, the quality of the place etc...