Naamblar2014

29 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

This seems to becoming common place. Until Thai Immigration starts deporting and blacklisting loons like this expect the visas to become more and more difficult. But of course its Pattaya or your common tourist slums where most foreigners seem to believe they should be allowed to do anything they please and screw what the Thais think.

Motorcycle taxi guy is loving it... Grin from ear to ear ????

4 hours ago, missoura said:

The authorities may have overlooked a few things...

What's that he is carrying?  Is that an American sized slice of pizza? ????

One thing I find interesting is that we are now feeding vegetarians fish.  Yes the world's largest ocean predator is a cow. 

36 minutes ago, FracturedRabbit said:

So don’t eat an animal that has been raised that way. Support pasture raised meat, better for the environment, a better life for the animal, and better health for you.


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Are you crazy? Grass fed would consume all the land.  Flatten all the cities,  all the mountains and you start to understand the amount of land required to grass feed cattle to have a steak.

Even if we raise beef in land that has no other use,  the actual muster of those cattle requires helicopters,  motorbikes and trucks and guess what, they all use fuel.

its funny your name has rabbit.  Because if we eat rabbit the meat is so lean that we lose calories when digesting it. Kinda like drinking milk for calcium. It's actually acidic which means we lose calcium.

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

No Indian sub continent are kaek. 

Iran, Iraq, etc, Kaen kaow

Indian I heard as bung pronounced like bang but with a u.

2 minutes ago, Pique Dard said:

who needs those protected trees? that is the question! there are a lot of trees, protected or not, in africa let alone in cameroon. i don't see why cameroonians would travel all the way from africa to thailand in order to chop down trees.

Cameroon in thai means clitoris.  Seriously camharoon

26 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

If you don't like the country why would you want to be a citizen?  

I have a wife and daughter,  so that's why.  I like the people in the country and I enjoyed the climate.  I would be OK retiring here if not for all the govt bull xxxx

Funny old country.  Tm30's 90 day reports.  Police visit to your home,  visa extension yr after yr after yr.  Complete crap treatment and criminally racist if in a real country. Married legally to a Thai citizen and still no path as per the rules to citizenship.  Always the unwritten rules,  a hurdle they are.  'Yoda'

I keep telling you there is no life without death.

OK The notion of value would be non-existent if we wouldn’t face death.

In the case of these animals then it would seem that they are extremely happy to be murdered, for even though they are only babies,  they have endured such misery pain and hardship in their short lives that the taking of their life against their will is better than living this torture further. A torture that we have brought them into existence to suffer.

Really they should be happy that we will murder them,  eat them,  even when our experience of eating them is only short lived.

I am sad that people,  despite knowing the agony and misery that these animals endure,  are still selfish enough to continue supporting these industries simply because 'it tastes good'

3 minutes ago, trd said:

You can slaughter an animal without cruelty.

How?  talk nicely to it and then stab it in the neck.

That's the power of social media. One can only learn by what is presented to them.  Previously it has all been the industry promoting themselves to us as children,  in our school,  our parents and media. Now we have dedicated people risking themselves to show us what really happens and the social media to platform what they find.

11 minutes ago, trd said:

 

 

I don't see anyone advocating cruelty to animals here.

That's right the cruel industry is moving to cruelty free

1 minute ago, trd said:

17 minutes ago, Naamblar2014 said:

But all the antibiotics and animal feaces you consume.. Yum yum

You sound like you were over protected as a child. Do you have any allergies such as asthma?

Allergic to dairy products but I drank them anyway just to be tough

Beyond meat went from $25 to $141 us per share shortly after initial public offer.  The interesting thing is that the heavyweights in animal agriculture are investing heavily in these industries.  Perhaps even they cannot cover up the cruel violence within their industry any longer.

3 minutes ago, trd said:

13 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Everything is advancing, They are going grow meat in commercial quantities soon. I am sure we will miss the days of fresh natural meat. You should tuck in while there is still time.

Fake meat from a laboratory. Yuck! I looked up the ingredients for one of those beyond burgers and the list of chemicals, oh my God!

But all the antibiotics and animal feaces you consume.. Yum yum

1 minute ago, trd said:

14 minutes ago, Naamblar2014 said:

Yes.  Intelligence and morals.  Doesn't the saying go something like he who has the power has the moral obligation to protect those who are vulnerable

Killing animals for food is not immoral. That's just the way of the world. It's unavoidable. There is no life without death. Do you know how many animals vegans kill? Let me tell you a story about baby mice. It's been shown that the parents sing individually composed love songs to them. Isn't that lovely and they are killed in their millions by combine harvesters harvesting crops. In fact whole habitats are wiped out from agriculture. If you were to get rid of all the animals and convert all of the usable land for agriculture it would be an absolute disaster for the planet, the opposite of what the popular press seem to be advocating. It would drastically lower the nutritional content of food. You can read about it in one of the studies I posted.

Denial and absolute rubbish.  Most of the agriculture grain grown goes to feed the animal agriculture industry.

13 minutes ago, trd said:

WEBSITES

http://dietshack.weebly.com/vegetarianism.html

https://farmingtruth.weebly.com/blog1.html

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-the-health-a-movie-with-an-agenda/

https://zerocarbzen.com/

http://www.advancedhealing.com/carnivore-diet-resource-information/

STUDIES

Nutritional and greenhouse gas impacts of removing animals from US agriculture

https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1707322114


The Least Harm Principle May Require that Humans Consume a Diet Containing Large Herbivores, Not a Vegan Diet

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1025638030686


Nutrition and Health – The Association between Eating Behavior and Various Health Parameters: A Matched Sample Study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3917888/


Energy use, blue water footprint, and greenhouse gas emissions for current food consumption patterns and dietary recommendations in the US

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10669-015-9577-y


Intake of macro- and micronutrients in Danish vegans

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4628270/

VIDEOS


Dr. Georgia Ede - 'Our Descent into Madness: Modern Diets and the Global Mental Health Crisis'
 

 

Lost Seasonality and Overconsumption of Plants: Risking Oxalate Toxicity - Sally Norton

 

 

Dr. Mike Eades - 'Paleopathology and the Origins of the Paleo Diet'

 

 

Want to Go Vegan / Vegetarian? Watch This First - Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride 2017

 

 

Dr. Barry Groves / Homo Carnivorus: What We Are Designed to Eat / Carnivore Diet / Ketogenic Diet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=X2qdyKxU0YU
 

Propaganda..

5 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

But animals are an excellent natural source of nutrition. Why avoid what is good and renewable?

It has a huge cost to the environment, our health and to the welfare of the animals.

3 minutes ago, trd said:

16 minutes ago, Naamblar2014 said:

Well I guess I'm just looking at this from the point of view that they should never be eaten.

Most animals eat other animals. What's wrong with you. You are a human animal. Do you think somehow that you are different from the rest of the animal world just because you have an intellect?

Yes.  Intelligence and morals.  Doesn't the saying go something like he who has the power has the moral obligation to protect those who are vulnerable

1 minute ago, canuckamuck said:

Is it wrong for animals to eat animals?

I would not say it is wrong if no other option exists,  but I think it is unnecessary in these times.  there is nothing you can get from meat that you can't get from plants. The only thing might be vitamin b12 bit you can get that from a vitamin.  It comes from bacteria in nature which the animals eat,  bet even then they are now injected with it from what I hear.

2 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

So the older ones are sinners?

Well I guess I'm just looking at this from the point of view that they should never be eaten.