MartinBangkok

This confirms a previous post of mine, where I put forward the notion that they might, already next year, in 2024, demand a tax return for the year 2023 from everybody. So for many this will mean get out of Thailand before 1st. January 2024 (2,5 month's from now) or before your Visa expires in 2024, or before tax return is due in Thailand in the spring 2024. Difficult to say which alternative is best, as in worst case scenario they won't let you leave after 1st January without a tax return for 2023.

Hmmmmm: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/foreign-sourced-disposal-gains-subject-to-tax-from-jan-1

There are/will be countries that appreciate the economic benefits of attracting people who contribute to the economy.

I have abandoned my plan to buy the new BMW 5 series (approximately 3,6 million Baht, including about 1,6 million directly injected to Thailand's state coffers in form of total import fees). Plus VAT. Instead I am contemplating selling my new Ford Raptor (V6 400hp) and my 1 year old 1100 cc Honda big bike (only to a Farang who can pay me outside of Thai banking system). Next step: Finding another more appreciating/ welcoming country to live in. Who looses? Thailand or me? Cheers

My car in Thailand has tinted windows all around. Would you recommend I remove them here in Thailand before I drive from Thailand to Cambodia for only a long weekend trip? (seems a bit excessive.., and expensive..)

I have worked and lived in Thailand for 18 years now as a digital nomad. I like Thailand for a number of reasons, but the last 5-6-7 years have given me more and more reasons to dislike Thailand. Blatant discrimination on so many dimensions as a farang, ever increasing nightmare dealing with immigration/labour/revenue beaurocrats and having to witness and accept the endemic corruption at all levels. (I could go on). This latest " tax attack" is the last straw. Pigs will fly and it will snow in Bangkok before I pay 1 (f....ng) satang in tax to Thailand. I am lucky, I am free as a bird. But I feel sorry for Farangs that are stuck here, and I feel sorry for the Thai people, who are also stuck. Cheers

I feel relieved. After reading every single post, 48 pages now, I feel so relaxed and happy. I have been working, and living in Thailand, the last 18 years on a Work Permit (WP). The last 4-5 years have been increasingly difficult regarding renewal of the WP. Without any forwarning at all, I have been asked for new documents and new requirements. Not to mention the nightmare is is dealing with the officers of immigration, labour and revenue (none of whom speak understandable English.. - maybe 1 in a 100). And also their very condescending attitude and behaviour towards me (white, older farang). This, in addition to all the ways we get ripped off and discriminated in this country, I have decided that enough is enough, no more if this. This is my final year full time in Thailand, I will stay maximum 180 days a year. I am already looking forward to a new adventure. Really, really, looking forward to it :-). I guess I am lucky, being single and working online and not having established any binding commitments to this country (to be honest, that has been a smart choice ever since my first week in Thailand at the beginning of the century, when my then Thai girlfriend, sided with the motor cycle taxi guy even if he tried to rip me (us) off triple the going rate) Cheers (side note: I will probably qualify for the LTR-Visa, but considering my experience with this country (and as stated in numerous posts), you cannot be sure of anything, any other that they will try screw the farang in any way possible)

This might sound like a stupid thought/question, but since this new tax rule comes into effect 1st January, 2024 (only three months from now) could it be possible that they will demand tax returns from all of us already in 2024 and consequently that we have to pay tax under the new rules for all income for the year we are in: 2023?

That could be the case. I agree.

Wow!!! Thanks a million @K2938. This is potentially great news! ???? (barring any U-turns)

Can anyone confirm that the LTR-visa gives you 0 tax under this new announcement? I doubt this is the case...

Yes, but the thing is, the Chinese are coming, and in big numbers. 5 years from now, the Chinese will have bought all available condos (anything to get out of Xi's China). Thaksin is half Chinese, as are most of the Thailand elite. Chinese are welcome, people with white skin from developed democratic nations, are not. We are the Thai elites worst enemy, indusing democratic thoughts into our Thai spouses, girlfriends, lovers, friends.

Check the reporting requirements of convicted criminals in your home country..

"Made up rules"? How about reality.

What?? I wish you the best of luck if you ever try to do business in Thailand as a foreigner. Have you read the Thai minister's comment about the verdict? "Congratulations all Thais" What a country!

It's been fine here in Ban Chang (close to Utapao Airport), Rayong, for the past six weeks. What are they smoking at the weather department?

Anutin is in for a big wake up call if he continues trying to rip off the Thai elite family that owns/operates the BTS

Yes, that's how it works in my home country Norway. Google it. You obviously don't know much about civilized nations.

Bull<deleted>, try coming to Norway, you get better welfare rights than citizens, before you quickly become a citizen yourself .

Chuvit has obviously been silenced. (sorry, replying to previous comment about the new PMs dodgy tax dealings)

Same with the Norwegian Crown :-0 Side note: Considering the appalling treatment we Farangs are subject to in this land of fake smiles (think 90 days reporting, notify police/immigration every single day you are out of your registered province, double pricing, rip offs, beuraucratic hell), I have already decided: I am out of here if I have to pay a single Baht in tax. We are treated worse than hard-line criminals/rapist's are in my home country.

Cheap pussy

I agree with member "Bannork": Know when to fight your battles. MFP should wait on delicate issues until they have warmed up - mabye in a year or two. Then Thailand can dream of having a national day like we have in Norway. Celebrating our 200 year constitution (1814) with children processions the main focus of the day, not military parades.

I have a big penis, but thats beside the point. On a 1100cc motorcycle, the louder the noise, the more safety for me and everyone else on the road. This is a fact.

I was the first to order and pay a deposit (May 1st) for the new Raptor at Ford Rayong. I was supposed to get it this month (August). But then I got a message from them that I have to wait until November due to delays. No worries. I visited the dealer yesterday and they actually had it at the showroom. What a car! Sublime V6 engine, suspension (amazingly smooth ride), 4 wheel drive specs, off road specs, acceleration and sound specs, technology specs (think Tesla), interior standard/quality (soft touches galore/leather), surround system (10 speakers Bang & Olufsen!), really, really powerful aircon, literally no engine/road/tire noise (due to state-of-the-art suspension, ladder frame, noise cancellation in cabin) and so many driving modes it makes you dizzy (I will be driving in Baja mode all the time :-0 full on exhaust sound. I am trading in my BMW 520d M Sport (G30). I can´t wait! ???? Cheers!