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47 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Still against international law, so ultimately unlikely to happen.

 

Also according to your updated piece.

Not according to the UK section of the piece. The act quoted has already been used.

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Good question, how was she allowed to travel independently?

Revoking citizenship thereby leaving someone stateless is afaik against international law.

Read my updated piece above

Revocation ofsingle state citizenship is indeed possible. See the 2015 act.

3 hours ago, theoldgit said:

You'd need to change International Law.

Although it’s possible to lose your citizenship if you’re a British national by birth, it’s unusual, and usually only happens if someone is considered a threat to national security. The Home Secretary can choose to remove citizenship in this case

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/shamima-begum-latest-isis-bride-could-have-british-citizenship-revoked-as-home-secretary-vows-to-a4067586.html

This piece references the 2015 act which specifically enables revocation of single  citizenship.

http://cmsny.org/publications/unmaking-citizens/

read the UK section

I also want know why she was allowed to travel as an unaccompanied minor. Was the usual airline documentation in place

Border Force are hopeless. How was an unaccompanied minor allowed to leave. Why don't we check people leaving?

I note Begum is not a proper surname. It is a female honorific like "lady"

No more from me on this thread

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Don't forget she wasn't exactly in an environment where critical thinking was stimulated.

I bet she's a Brexiter ????

Why do we not have immigration checks on leaving? A child should not be able to travel alone without the usual paperwork as required by most airlines.

Her two previous children died from complications due to malnutrition

She should not be allowed to return. She can apply to stay in Syria or Iraq.

I blame the EU

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

KL has not issued multiple entry visas for years. Penang and Kota Bharu will only issue a multiple entry non-b visa to owners or shareholders of a company now

He could get multiple entry non-o visa based upon being the parent of a Thai in Penang. He will need to show 400k baht in the bank or proof 40k baht income or more.

If he is the legal parent of his children by way of marriage or legitimization he could apply for a one year extension at immigration.

Thank you!

Very informative!

11 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

It may be possible to get a multiple entry non-b for business purposes at an embassy or consulate in the country where the company he is working with is registered.

General requirements are here. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15388-Non-Immigrant-Visa-"B"-(for-Business-and.html

My staff member is Swedish and has worked for me here in Phuket for 10 years. He has a work permit and usually gets a 1 year multiple entry from KL or Penang. I am advised that they now only issue single entry 3 month visas. Any sensible solutions? He does have two young Thai children that he is bringing up asa single parent. Would he get a cat O,  1 year do you think (on the basis of salary/tax paid)?

I dont understand this business that consulted now only issue 3 month visas and you must go to an Embassy. Whats the issue with KL then?

Thanks for any advice

1 hour ago, melvinmelvin said:

5 years ago there was another USN destroyer bumping (hard) into a tanker in the Hormuz Strait, no fatalities but lots of damage as far as I remember

the term destroyer takes on new semantical meanings, one thinks

 

I think maybe I mentioned it higher up in this thread. There is a US book titled Normal Accidents. The book addresses a series of well known accidents (and many not well known) and points to why this accident more or less had to happen, when things first started to go in the wrong direction.

 

Among well known accidents discussed, the 747 shot down over Sakhalin, the space shuttle that blew into fragments shortly after take off, some Three Mile Island accident if I remember correctly

 

and an accident leading to 11 fatalities and a US Coast Guard training vessel sinking in the DC/Baltimore area the training vessel sunk in a couple of minutes after having been almost cut in two by an oncoming freighter

coming down the river the skipper sees the freighter, he sees her steaming lights but he has one of those short circuits in his brain making him think that he is in the process of overtaking the freighter, he is going to port to pass the freighter and is ploughed down

 

lots of people on the bridge seeing what is taking place but nobody intervenes with the skipper

 

I would not be surprised if the answers to these 3 destroyer happenings are linked to BRM or lack thereof

 

 

 

MCC multi crew cooperation is a  big problem in Asian aviation. Captain Krap!

Following another fatal accident at sea with an American warship, China says all American warships must display "L" plates. Learner drivers are not permitted in the Mallaca Straits. ?

A spoksperson for the Royal Navy, Capt Pugwash RN, suggests that they introduce rum rations for all able bodied seamen.

On 28/11/2016 at 7:26 AM, ubonjoe said:

The consulates can no longer issue multiple entry non immigrant visas. The embassy will do a multiple entry non-o visa with no financial proof.

It seems you have may have the financial proof needed to apply for a one year extension of stay based upon marriage at immigration. You need need 400k baht in a Thai bank in your name only for 2 months or proof of 40k baht income. You could apply during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry from the non-o visa you have.

Several years ago I applied for a 1 year multi in Phuket. I was short on capital so I offered proof of income with the childrens' birth certificates. The "officer" said this would only be acceptable if I divorced my wife! I told him that I considered divorcing my wife at least daily but declined to do so because of some arcane Thai law. I bade him  farewell and immediately travelled to Singapore where I received the visa with no problem.....

Thank you all for the info

I applied again for a "non-immigrant catagory O marriage visa multiple entry" in London. This was granted with no problem even though I had a 90 day single entry in my passport.

It's a pity the authorities keep trying to make life more difficult. I may not bother next time....

Thanks again for the advice.

(BTW, London embassy never replied to my emails or telephone calls. Discourtesy at least!)

Thank you all very much!

I think I will apply again at the Embassy in London.

I have always had CAT O multi 12 month visas for last 12 years

Either from UK (Hull) or Singapore

This time Hull only gave me 90 days single

I presented wife's passport, ID Card, marriage paper

We have 2 children

We have 6 companies

I have a work permit

SCB bank statements showing 10M going through my account with my wife showing income from me of 120k per month

Singapore Sterling account with significant funds

What to do?

GIve up?

Cant get through by phone or email to Thai embassy in London

Hull have not had a 12 month non imm application approved since Sept 27

So in his great war against drugs, slimebag Joko signs off on the execution of minor drug mules, a victim of people traffickers, someone with schizophrenia, a Frenchman involved with ecstacy. Why? because they couldn't pay the AUD130,000 the judges were demanding for a non death sentence.

Meanwhile the real beneficiaries live in their mansions in Menteng and continue the trade with a new set of mules. Nothing changes.

This is all about posturing and psycho-nationalism, nothing whatsoever to do with controlling drugs.

Absolutely correct.

Ive googled quite a lot and have read everything that Dr. Mercola has to say and Ive never heard anything about CO2 bubbles offsetting the deadly toxins in MSG. Its definitely the essential oils that are doing it.

I don't know Dr. Mercola and am the first to say I'm not a scientist studying the effects of MSG in a lab setting. However, MSG should be studied. The reason there's scant data is, like so many other questionable food additives, there are vested corporate interests who want their additives to continue to sell, because that's how they make their salaries.

It's similar to the reason exotic/endangered animal parts are not studied in China (for their supposed curative effects, and enabling flaccid men to get hard-ons) ....because there are too many vested interests involved. To prove, for example, rhino horn has no more curative effect than drinking tea made of fingernail clippings, would be anathema to those in the biz of poaching/selling rhino horn.Hostie comes around offering fruit juice? Does it contain sugar says IThai-run airlines (and other Thai corps) are to healthy food what ducks are to auto mechanics, or what Thai politicians are to environmental husbandry. The first thing Thai corp heads need to learn is: What is healthy. The next thing is to decide whether they want healthy practices within their corporations, or just continue to take the common unhealthy path that's so convenient - and pleases their buddies in corporate food/drink businesses.

Science schmeince. Scientists are such elitists with their big words and demanding a paycheck each month. That's how you know that you can't trust them, unlike artists and dancers they all get paid, and once the profit motive is in play they will even deny medical facts that were known during the middle ages.

Utter nonsense

I have looked into the Aspartame issue in some depth

I find your assertions to be incorrect

Read the link I posted above if you want the facts......

I see a few liberals here whining on about how cruel this is and yet not one of them giving a shit about the poor families whose lives are destroyed by drug dealers.

Joko Widodo has it right ... execute them and send a clear message. Still if you're a greedy moron who doesn't care about destroying the lives of others and is willing to try smuggling drugs go right ahead and hopefully you too will me caught and executed.

Joko Widodo is doing the world a favor and I for one applaud him.

I suspect that you are in minority and I applaud that.

Capital punishment does not work.

The only thing that works is catching people.

State sanctioned executions just brutalise everyone. Do you understand that?

The more executions the more people are de-sensitised and the more murders occur.

I can give some leeway as Indonesia is developing and have an immature civilisation (look at the way they torture animals there....)

My nephew died of a an overdose.

Do I want the people executed.

No, but I would like them caught.

Drugs are a complex problem. I don't have all the answers.....

I tell you what though, if you got rid of all the people who take ice, cocaine, heroin and the rest from Phuket it would be a MUCH nicer place.........

And what do you do with them once they are caught? Have people like me spend our tax dollars on supporting them for the rest of their lives? Are there not more constructive uses for tax dollars?

I would agree to keeping them in the penal system if all the bleeding hearts would allow the punishment in some form of labor etc that benefits mankind, but not to have them sit in a cell with their color TV and hunger strikes.

It is my opinion that the penal system needs the overhaul, then the sentencing system can be revised.

Deary me!

How depressing........

I will not bother replying.

I really don't get the point of some of these posts......

Anyway, here's the facts from multiple sources

http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/aspartame

As far as I am concerned, unless one is a homeopathic nut case. This stuff is fine.

Maximum daily intake for adult is equivalent to 77 sachets of Equal.

Where are you from, Sviss Geez?

Seems you have been pretty brutalised so it would be interesting to know something of your influences

Are you OK?

Canman is being ironic ( AKA taking the piss)

Joking apart, I find it VERY difficult to obtain scientific facts on several of these issues.

I have type 2 diabetes brought on in part by drinking excessive quantities of full sugar Sprite when on a construction project.

Don't know the precise mechanism but that was the root cause.

I try to minimise blood sugar and try to eat and drink sensibly.

However, I can not get hold of real facts about the suitability or otherwise on a whole host of artificial sweetners

If i find Diet Coke has been harming me I shall be off to Atlanta with my wooden leg to beat them about the head and body......

There have been studies suggesting that aspartame & sucralose might have longterm effects such as brain tumours or leukemia. There also have been studues refuting that. While drinking water would be better still, it would seem that for a diabetic it would be an easy choice to take the longterm risk of consuming the artificial sweeteners instead of taking the immediate risk of having a seizure from consuming sugar.

OK Thanks!

Now where's that bottle of Famous Grouse!

I see a few liberals here whining on about how cruel this is and yet not one of them giving a shit about the poor families whose lives are destroyed by drug dealers.

Joko Widodo has it right ... execute them and send a clear message. Still if you're a greedy moron who doesn't care about destroying the lives of others and is willing to try smuggling drugs go right ahead and hopefully you too will me caught and executed.

Joko Widodo is doing the world a favor and I for one applaud him.

I suspect that you are in minority and I applaud that.

Capital punishment does not work.

The only thing that works is catching people.

State sanctioned executions just brutalise everyone. Do you understand that?

The more executions the more people are de-sensitised and the more murders occur.

I can give some leeway as Indonesia is developing and have an immature civilisation (look at the way they torture animals there....)

My nephew died of a an overdose.

Do I want the people executed.

No, but I would like them caught.

Drugs are a complex problem. I don't have all the answers.....

I tell you what though, if you got rid of all the people who take ice, cocaine, heroin and the rest from Phuket it would be a MUCH nicer place.........