Old Man River

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For future prevention, plant ma krut (wild lime) and also regular lemon/linme trees and lemon grass, snakes don't like citrus. At least that is what the Cambodians all tell me and it's worked at my house in Prachinburi pretty well...used to be snake central, haven't seen a one this rainy season.

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Here in Texas the cowboys used to believe that sleeping with a lasso surrounding your bedroll would scare off rattlesnakes. I'd be sceptical about believing all snakes dislike citrus.

If your snake is this one then its deadly: http://www.siam-info.de/english/snakes_cro...ps%20albolabris

This one is quite harmless: http://www.siam-info.de/english/snakes_gonyosoma.html

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Very useful links...good info - especially helpful with the Thai names...

BUT...what on earth is a "fruit plan day" ???

BTW, I think it best to think of ALL snakes as potentially dangerous unless you happen to be a herpetologist - even the non-poisonous variety can give a bite that can become infected, and in any case, being bitten by anything is a painful experience, best avoided.

Basically, there are not many untrained people who could say with authority that a particular snake is a non-poisonous type, so would you trust the lives of your kids to posters on TV, or err on the side of caution?

Thailand DOES have a number of very poisonous and aggressive snakes, and these will be even more so if they have offspring - it's not worth the risk unless you have the training. Ever seen a friendly Cobra - no, I haven't either.

I received a lot of good advice from this request. I have come to the conclusion that pest control companies do not do this. They stick to smaller bugs which are more easily handled. My dogs would be helpless (as I would) against an overly large or very dangerous snake, but so far, I don't think we have these varieties.

The next time I see a snake I will try to stay around long enough to see if I can identify it or at least get a description and identify it later. The green tree snakes have been identified as Paradise Tree Snakes, which are not harmful. I have not seen any of the darker colored water snakes recently, but then I haven't been looking for them either.

Thanks again to all.

Correct.  Enter and leave Thailand on your Thai passport.  Enter and leave the US on your US passport.  It's the way to do it, have done it more than a dozen times myself.

I was told specifically by a U.S. Immigrations official not to do this, but if that is wrong, I stand corrected. It wouldn't be the first time an USCIS employee gave me inaccurate information.

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The USCIS employee did give you the wrong advice. The US allows dual citizenship and this employee should go to the US State Dept.'s website and update himself/herself. Dual nationality means two different passports and USCIS understands this. Both my wife and child are US/Thai dual nationals. My child recently became a dual national, and I spent some time discussing this with USCIS when I was in the US. Lopburi3 and Heng's advice is spot on.

Where do you live Old Man River?

You might get some more answers if you told us your location.

Have you tried a dog? Snakes will usually steer clear of a property that has a dog.

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I think it depends on the snake and the dog . My ex g/f's dog was killed indirectly by a snake - the snake spat at him and made him blind and then he wouldn't eat and then he was found dead by the side of the road.

RIP Sam.

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I live behind Seri Center in Bangkok, near the King's Park. I have two dogs, and therefore am very sorry about your ex- g/f's loss. At present, perhaps my dog's are keeping the snakes at bay, but with little one running around, I would like to be sure they are safe in our yard.

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For future prevention, plant ma krut (wild lime) and also regular lemon/linme trees and lemon grass, snakes don't like citrus. At least that is what the Cambodians all tell me and it's worked at my house in Prachinburi pretty well...used to be snake central, haven't seen a one this rainy season.

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Here in Texas the cowboys used to believe that sleeping with a lasso surrounding your bedroll would scare off rattlesnakes. I'd be sceptical about believing all snakes dislike citrus.

If your snake is this one then its deadly: http://www.siam-info.de/english/snakes_cro...ps%20albolabris

This one is quite harmless: http://www.siam-info.de/english/snakes_gonyosoma.html

I believe we have the non-poisonous variety. In my 20 years living in Dallas, I must say I have never tried using a lasso.

Thanks for the info.

I live in a small family compound, which contains several snakes. So far, we have only found green snakes and don't think we have anything terribly lethal, but since there are several small children in the compound we wish to have the snakes removed. Can anyone recommend a reputable company that would safely remove any and all snakes and relocate them to a more appropriate location (not the neighbor's yard).  It would be helpful, for a fee of course, if company could send someone periodically to make sure they don't find their way back. 

Please let me know.

Thank you,

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My missus would be interested in that job.Would you stump up two return tickets for us from Manchester to Bangkok,say twice a year to sort out the problem?

Martin

p.s.As long as the the snake is not lying next to a worm as she eats snakes for breakfast,but is sh-t scared of worms

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I have been in Manchester and I can believe this. I will shoot for something less expensive for the time being.

I live in a small family compound, which contains several snakes. So far, we have only found green snakes and don't think we have anything terribly lethal, but since there are several small children in the compound we wish to have the snakes removed. Can anyone recommend a reputable company that would safely remove any and all snakes and relocate them to a more appropriate location (not the neighbor's yard).  It would be helpful, for a fee of course, if company could send someone periodically to make sure they don't find their way back. 

Please let me know.

Thank you,

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You mention you have green snakes, are they the small green ones, if so they are lethel, they are the Bamboo viper. nasty little b e g g e r s.

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I don't think they are the poisonous ones. We had one removed from one of our trees by the volunteer group you call when you see one, and they said they weren't poisonous, although all snakes have nasty bites. Unfortunately, the group the city sends out only removes those they can see (when you spot them). They don't hunt them for you.

Where do you live Old Man River?

You might get some more answers if you told us your location.

Have you tried a dog? Snakes will usually steer clear of a property that has a dog.

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I live in Bangkok in the Srinakarin area.

I have two dogs, but either these are brave snakes or my dogs are known cowards, or both. There must be some companies which specialize in this type of thing, everybody says that, but nobody I have talked to can actually give me a name. I don't want to hire a neighborhood kid as he may get hurt and most probably wouldn't know how to find them. None of the maids seem particularly interested in this.

We have no interest in acquiring any animal which may end up being worse than the snakes, which heretofore have not bothered us. Its just knowing they are there and the potential danger to the kids that is the issue.

Thanks,

I live in a small family compound, which contains several snakes. So far, we have only found green snakes and don't think we have anything terribly lethal, but since there are several small children in the compound we wish to have the snakes removed. Can anyone recommend a reputable company that would safely remove any and all snakes and relocate them to a more appropriate location (not the neighbor's yard). It would be helpful, for a fee of course, if company could send someone periodically to make sure they don't find their way back.

Please let me know.

Thank you,

It is in some way tabu also for a thai woman to discuss this problem about a will.

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Amen to that. However, in my case we have a child so it is something we finally are addressing. When children are involved, spouses think differently.

I am currently in process (just at the beginning) of getting all these issues sorted out by an attorney, whose advice I trust. I would advise anyone with children or who are planning on having children to let the best attorney you can afford sort these issues out.

Seen all, learnt nothing is correct that under US Immigration law, you must enter and leave the US under your US passport.

The US acknowledges dual citizenship (although US law takes precedence over the other country's laws as it relates to issues pertaining to the US). There are many duals living in the US. I have never heard of any problems where a dual enters the US without a port of disembarkation on their US passport as long as they can clearly show where they were on their other country's passport.

On the Thai side the issue is a bit less clear, because Thai law doesn't specifically allow dual nationality, it just doesn't prohibit it. In addition, things are changing as it pertains to the duals living in the South that have been travelling freely between Malaysia and Thailand due to potential security issues that have arisen. I would imagine this will cause confusion for vigilent Immigration officers in Bangkok, and we all would have to be very naive to think that questions will not increase for all dual nationals due to the issues in the South. Still, the duals I am aware of have told me that they will continue to travel as before, but will be prepared for increased questions going forward. None of us are aware of any specific law changes for duals coming from western countries, and none expect any real hassles as long as they can show they have not traveled into any area that would give an Immigration officer cause for concern.

Old man River.

The dual national would not apply for a visa.

Read Rimrada's post. His wife travelled with two passports in diffent names LAST WEEK

Lopburi,

Misspelt mane on a ticket is a seperate issue. If one of dual nationals 2 passports is correctly showing the name on the ticket why should there be a problem?

5 years ago, well before 7/11 I and my "wife" went to BKK to Hong Kong. Gulf air. Her last name is Yooram. The ticket said YoUram (it was my fault).

Check-in denied her boarding but to be fair they then made a phone call (I think to Thai immigration) and relented with a don't do this again. On return from Hong Kong absolutely no problem. (I recall that at return check-in a young Thai lady had excess baggage.  We only had hand baggage and were asked if we would check 2 bags through for her. Check-in agent said OK. I said NO WAY which angered my wife).

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I am posting for the first time. The advice from Lopburi3 is spot on. Don't be foolish. Since you have to leave the western country using that country's passport, go into Thailand using the foreign passport and get the appropriate visas from Thai immigration before you arrive (i.e. do it the right way). One of my relatives is also in this situtation and after making the mistake once, has vowed to never, ever mix and match passports with different names again. Fortunately for him, a friendly phuu yai was coincidentally on the same plane and helped him out with Thai immigration at that time.

Now, here we are post 9/11 and governments (all governments) are looking very hard at travelling documents. If you wish to leave Thailand and travel to another Asian country, then you can travel on the Thai passport, but keep it consistent, don't mix and match travel documents with different names. Why push your luck?

For dual nationals with the same name the old standby of leaving Thailand with the Thai passport and entering the western country with that country's passport and vice versa is normal, but the key is the dual national is travelling with all documents under the same name.