Jimmpy

Have you tried Chinatown?

Never been to ChinaTown.

Where is it and what's there for nightlife?

Thanks for answering the question Onetime.

As you mentioned, the entire place seems to be a rip-off; a nuisance and waste of time as well.

Probably most of the current members have never experienced the old Bangkok?

With the Shin's gone, I thought it would be a good time to come back to Bangkok.

Had no idea that it had been turned into a 5 star tourist trap since my last visit here in 2002.

I rember Bangkok from the late 20th century and what a great place it was.

Do you think it's still thriving on its long reputation that Murry Head was singing about in his song "One Night In Bangkok".

Or, do you think Bangkok will make-it as a 5 star tourist destination?

Tijuana ?

That area has already been mentioned

Intensive investigation reveals: ....Ethiopia is both cheap and sleazy....the near perfect combination.

Get there before the mass of other people discover all the fun to be had and ruin it for all the fun seeking budget travelers.

Cheers

sshhhh don't tell everyone.

Can I have the website please

I'm in Bangkok and I don't think it's otc. But it was 6 baht per pill from a private hospital, so I'm guessing it can be had much cheaper.

It's certainly over the counter in Chiang Mai, 10mg 2 baht pill and 25 mg 3 baht a pill, some pharmacies will sell you a bucket load. The only problem with amitryptyline or any other tricyclic compound is that they leave you drowsy the next day (until you get used to them) and give you a dry mouth.

No question they can help a person sleep.

Tried this one years ago before Prozac came out. It sure does make you feel lousy in the morning.

Man I live in Rayong..not the same as Bangkok or pattaya by any means but almost the same as my home country in Canada. It just suits me just fine. Don't care for the night life at all. Have nice girl and a 4 year old boy. Happy as a pig in Shit here.

I would say that you are a lucky man.

What area are you living in that is both boring and sleazy.

I living in Phrakanong which is boring but not sleazy.

My post is actually referring to Bangkok in general which I find boring now that it has morphed into a 5 star tourist zone and, somehow, removed all the sleaze that exhisted during the last haf of the 20th century.

If you're sticking in Thailand, only Pattaya fits your spec. It is a sex-city and it's in your face. Any deviation could be found. I would rate Manila as second best, as people speak English, but it is more dangerous for Westeners who don't know the ropes. S America, been there, done that, but they're not really into deviant lifestyles, although the girls are stunning and available.

Whatever, enjoy your remaining years on this planet, better to go out with a bang than slowly slide into boredom...

I'm sliding fast.

May go back to the US and move to Colorado and smoke pot all day.

Tiajuana and Rio are probably good for you. Uraguay would be a good backup.

Have been to both and both scare me.

Wouldn't even walk down the street in daylight in Tiajuana.

Rio is exciting but not worth the chance in my opinion.

Jakarta, Manilla, Angeles City, Pattaya, Ho Chi Min City, Delhi, Phnom Phen, Vientiane, take your pick !

Thank you.

Of the places you mention, Angeles City is worth a try.

Heard it was quite an active place and is high on my agenda; maybe even #1.

I hear Ecuador is The World’s Number 1 Retirement Haven though this would mean you have to leave Thailand

From the quaint town of Cotacachi to the vibrant capital, Quito, from Salinas by the sea to the peaks of the Andes, Ecuador’s diversity is a key part of the massive appeal that sees it regain the coveted top spot on this year’s retirement index whereas Thailand is number 10 on the list.

The cost of living is low. “A doctor’s visit will set you back around US$10, while a main course in a restaurant can be had for as little as US$2.50. The bus trip from Cotacachi to Otavalo will cost you 25 cents. For big-ticket items like real estate, you can get a lot more for your dollar here a new 2 bed condo 160sm with ocean views for US$75,000. A couple can live well here on US$1,400 a month, including rent.” Not sure how that rates with Bangkok.

You’ll find world-class medical facilities in big cities throughout the country, and you can catch direct flights to and from the States . Good Internet is more readily available than ever. Public transportation is so efficient that many expats report not having to even buy a car.

Not sure if Ecuador has the "sleezy" part you are looking for.

Thank you.

Researched Ecuador before deciding on Bangkok.

You guessed it; no sleaze factor.

My neighbor immigrated from Ecuador to the US and told me to forget about it.

Boring as hell and not for me.

Cha-Am is out.

Thanks all.

Perhaps I have reached the final exit.

I'm from NYC and (after my divorce in '78) had a great life.

Private parties, orgies every week.

My mother told me I would have "as sad awakening".

My father told me all good things must come to and end.

Guess I'll just ride off into the sunset like LBJ after the war did him in.

Yes, I tried to be gentle, but some one above said I didn't give enough information.

I'm not a 5 star tourist that Bangkok seems to be catering to now.

If you want a nice medium size town with a little sleazy part come to Cha-am.. We have Soi bust-stop full of bars and girls.. Every town in Thailand is a little sleazy. Cha-am is 170 k's South East of BKK and its only 25 k's further to Huahin which ahs a little bit more sleazier with more bars and girls than Cha-am.

Cha-am is a nice city with a long Esplanade right on the beach and has a nice holiday feel about it. Many expats live hear hence you can Buy most things an expat needs.. We have a "farang" owned supermarket plus a medium size BigC which sell most of what you you need. Good shopping is in Huahin which costs 40 bt in a minivan to Market Village shopping Centre which has a full size Tesco with 2 food courts. We also have many expat bakers hear plus a French coffee shop/café which also sells a good variety of bread, cake and pastry products, plenty of good resturants with Thai/Farang food. If you like the USA junk there is a Mcdonalds hear. Huahin has 2 McDonalds, 2 burger Kings and 2 KFC's. If you live hear and are a social it doesn't take long to find out where to buy what .. You will soon discover as its easy..

BEST of all is being on the Ocean Cha-am is a lot cooler than Bangkok. A nice see breeze is hear most of the time for you ..

Acomodation is cheap. I am in a large furnished townhouse near new for 3 months which short term is 10000 bt a month.. Would be cheaper in March for a long term rental.. An older Condo building on the beachfront with a pool where I used to live for 10 years has furnished studio's for 7000 to 8000 bt a month .. POSITION .. POSITION ..

I can put you on to a rental lady who manages renovated rooms and has good rooms in that price range... There is an over supply and plenty of rentals available ...James

Thanks for your detailed report.

Perhaps a place like Cha-am will do the trick.

Guess the old days are gone and will have to settle.

I was hoping for some good answers to this question. Unfortunately, so far, everybody wants to comment on his spending habits or know where he lives in Bkk. Doesn't matter where he lives, he wants to move. Any suggestions of where?

I don't know the guy, but it can matter very much what are his spending habits. If he can't afford BKK then it's going to be difficult to find a city where he can live more cheaply ... AND still have his desired sleaze factor.

Phnom Penh comes to mind. It's very sleazy (too much for me to live) and a bit cheaper than BKK. Perhaps Saigon, but I find the prices comparable to BKK.

Don't you have any suggestions of where?

Thanks, was hoping someplace in Cambodia could do the trick.

My main problem is routine monthly medical bills 0f 10,000 baht at Bumrungrad.

Can live comfortably with this but worry about anything major.

As for the sleaze factor I need an "underground" nightlife for people with alternative life styles (BDSM, Fetish, Goth, Gay, etc."

To use the 1970's slogan: sex, drugs and rock n roll. Much like Bangkok in the late 20th century.

I live in Bangkok and want to relocate.

Can't affored it anymore and bored to death.

Any advise on a vibrant and exciting city that's just a little sleezy like Bangkok used to be.

I'm retired and can go anywhere.

I think they are making a mistake.

Don't think any 5 star tourists with families will travel to Thailand for a vacation.

Since the 1960's and even before, Thailand was ground-zero for sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll.

It worked well for Thailand.

So, why are they trying to make Bangkok into a 5 star resort area for families?

It's so expensive to live here now, I think most of us will leave, myself included.

Too old for the Bangkok Scene

Don't know much about government hospitals in Thailand.

Live in Bangkok and go to Bumrungrad and have been to Bangkok Hospital.

Both are excellent.

Doctor's cost is about 500 Bhat but tests can get expensive.

If you were able to see the bug, it must be a flea. Bed bugs are microscopic.

Now you can't even get permission for a music festival? Too political, I suppose. This regime is becoming seriously unhinged.

There is definately something wrong happening here.

Thailand is quickly becoming a place no one will want to be in

I think you're right