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16 hours ago, placeholder said:

Here's what you claimed:

"The speaker of the house released a lot of the CCTV from the Capitol that day and if you ever get to see it, you will know that you are totally wrong. J6 was a set up. Pelosi has recently been shown on video saying that it was mainly her fault for refusing Trump's offer of 10,000 of the National Guard."

 

No evidence exists that Trump offered her 10000 National Guard troops.

 

What we do know is that Trump stayed glued to his television set rather than order the National Guard in.  And he waited 187 minutes from the time of his speech rather than ask the rioters to leave. And this is testimony from his own staff and republicans who were in attendance at the White House

https://archive.ph/6Gzhj

 

And if  you need a reminder of why they're called rioters, here it is:

 

It was very well documented that Trump offered her 10,000 National Guardsman. It was the police that allowed the people into the Capitol and they started the trouble by using tear gas and other munitions.

23 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

 Nope.

She's a real republican.

Trump isn't.

He's a fascist cult leader.

Nothing to do with classic republican values.

So you mean she is  a warmonger like her father? You would be right on that. Trump introduced the peace accords in the Middle East and he started no wars while he was in office.  John McCain, Barack Obama, Clinton along with many others were directly responsible for the Colour Revolution in the Ukraine in 2014 that ousted Yanukovych to install Zelensky to deliberately provoke Putin.

2 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

I interpreted that (you mean the TV interview with Dana Bash on Sept. 15, right?) as him griping that he puts a lot of hard work into coming up with these cockamamie stories, and that she should show some respect for that.  I developed an appreciation for Bash when, after DT's first debate with Biden in 2020 the first thing out of her mouth when the debate ended was "that was a sh_t show."  Oh those Jersey girls!

There is another highly ridiculous aspect to this thing about applauding Ivy League graduates.  The conservative media will go on into perpetuity about how US universities are incubators for the left, communist, Marxist (enter flavors of the day here), while at the same time lauding their members who have degrees from such institutions (Ted Cruz, Hawley, JD, and lots more) who they brand as scholars and true US conservatives, even as they come out with the dumbest statements to support their current deity.  Also in recent years the right-wing has been denouncing education, part of their dumbing-down strategy, and looking at the MAGA numbers it seems to be working.

 

Presumably you agree that porn and critical race theory should be shown in schools? Are drag acts in schools ok with you? That's exactly what's been going on since Trump left office.

11 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

There might be bloodshed but it would be at the hands of the losers. Losers like Trump, Losers like the militia gun nuts. Losers like the criminals of Jan 6. All to support a criminal in his efforts to avoid prison for a lifetime of criminal activity.

Hilarious. You obviously have no idea just what is going on in the US right now.

1 hour ago, bendejo said:

 

Might also want to consider he's prepping for 2028 when his daughter will be running against Kamala.  Any words regarding his love of country qualifies as pure Wyoming horse manure.  The truth about this guy won't be revealed until most of us in this forum will be long gone.  And every potential biographer knows better than to take him/his on.

 

She was talking about running against Trump when she was slung out of Congress in 2022 by the historic margin of 37%. She was involved in the J6 stitch up which will all be sorted out over the coming months. She is not popular in Wyoming and people have long memories.

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Stop saying this is only about the left!

Is Liz Cheney the left?!?

Liz Cheney is a RINO nutjob and has been voting with the Dems for years.

Take a look at this to give you an idea of what she has been up to:
https://grabien.com/story.php?id=390212

She is also no longer represents Wyoming in Congress as she was crushed in the election in 2022.

Take a look.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/08/17/liz-cheney-historic-defeat/

17 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

The real danger Fox offers is what they DO NOT SHOW.  They do not show the MAGA crowd breaking windows, running through the Capitol building, that clown at Pelosi's desk; when they sort of covered the January 6 hearings they blurred out the screen in the House chamber showing the assault.  They may not cover anything scandalous regarding GOP/MAGA, I get the impression they didn't report the Boebert stick-shift incident. 

The reason DT flipped about Fox a few days ago is they said something unfavorable about him, and he can't handle that.

 

The speaker of the house released a lot of the CCTV from the Capitol that day and if you ever get to see it, you will know that you are totally wrong. J6 was a set up. Pelosi has recently been shown on video saying that it was mainly her fault for refusing Trump's offer of 10,000 of the National Guard.

18 hours ago, placeholder said:

True, but given that he's still claiming that the 2020 election was stolen, despite the absence of valid evidence, it's a pretty safe bet that, if he loses, it will be more of the same.

When the left have got the media and a large part of the court system in its pocket it's fairly easy to get the results you want. You have some surprises coming in the next few months that will turn your brain to mush.

18 hours ago, simple1 said:

trump also called the media "enemy of the people' when reporting factually. How about doing some fact checking before posting trump / MAGA BS.

And he is 100% right. Check out Operation Mockingbird though I doubt you'll bother. Does it not strike you as odd that every attack from the media has been coordinated for years and most of their ratings have gone down the toilet in the last few years?

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

yes but they don't turn up in full battle dress trying to storm the House of Commons because they lost an Election.

And they didn't do that at the Capitol Building either. Have you actually seen any of the footage?

4 hours ago, still kicking said:

During and after his term as President of the United States, Donald Trump made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. The Washington Post's fact-checkers documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his presidential term, an average of about 21 per day.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump#See_also

The MSM fact checking anybody is a joke. You do know they will say anything, truth or not, as they are in the pocket of the Democrats.

8 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Have you forgot Trumps remarks when he was discussing the Military a while back informing the public they were suckers and losers. 

Too much CNN, NBC etc. Stop drinking the Koolaid. He never said that.Do you know what Operation Mockingbird is? If you don't you are very misinformed. Look it up.

should educate yourslef

8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I don't recall any Clinton supporter getting jail time when she lost.

 

OTOH, of the people who were charged with attempting to storm the Capitol on Trump's instigation, about 50% are behind bars.

 

That fact gives me hope MAGA supporters could not possibly be so stupid as to try it on a second time, if he loses again.

Have to seen behind the scenes footage of what happened that day where the police opened the doors of the Capitol building and let people in? The guy with the horns was given a guided tour around the building by more than 10 police officers and then sat in one of the rooms and prayed. He got four years I think. Jan 6th was an entrapment exercise and there were many FBI CHS's (Confidential Human Sources) in the crowd to stir up trouble. You should educate yourself about what really went on. 

9 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I agree. It may get ugly. No doubt the coward will deny he lost for a second time and will became one of the greatest losers in history. He will become irrelevant and will be shunned by the GOP, finally. That will be hard for him to accept. He will fight. But, he is tired and old, and becoming more feeble. So, we can just banish him, and put him out to pasture. 

 

And if all goes well, he will be locked up. A richly deserved reward for a lifetime of crime and fraud. 

 

 

It's going to get very ugly but not in the way you think. Which crimes are you referring to, by the way? Do you mean the supposed rape of E Jean Carroll where the jury awarded $85 million dollars to a woman who could even remember the year or month that the rape supposedly took place? She'd had made at least six similar allegations too over the years against others.

How about the one where Trump house was raided? That case was thrown out. How many non crimes do you think it takes before a rational person would think, "there is something off with all of these allegations"? Some decades old. Why this year just before an election? Use some critical thinking. It will help you no end. I guarantee that each and every one of the cases against Trump will be won on appeal.

12 hours ago, Srikcir said:

Aljegera is an opinion piece without any factual backing.

On the other hand:

• "Veterans Endorse Kamala Harris for the 2024 Presidential Election," Written By Common Defense, July 22, 2024 ref. Jacob Thomas - [email protected] "Common Defense, the nation's largest grassroots veterans organization, is proud to endorse Kamala Harris as the Democratic candidate for the 2024 Presidential election."
• "Ten former top US military officials back Harris, call Trump 'a danger'," By Reuters September 9, 2024
• "Group of retired generals, admirals announce support for Harris," - "As Donald Trump vows to purge the military of leaders he doesn't like, Kamala Harris is picking up endorsements from retired generals and admirals." MSNBC.com, Sept. 10, 2024 By Steve Benen.

Have you actually heard her speak? Harris is embarrassing and totally ill equipped to be POTUS in the same way she has been as Vice President for 3 and a half years.

9 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

An op out by trump. Rather than clearly stating he will accept the vote / Electoral College outcome, he says will only accept if he deems it's "fair". In other words more BS,  trump will only consider the election 'fair' if he wins. Accordingly no surprise trump and his enablers are trying to undermine the vote by attempting to disenfranchise Dem voters. Plus of course his ongoing attacks on US institutions such as the judiciary.

 

The current threat is also unique in that Trump has learned from his previous term where the choke points of American democracy lie. Unlike Adams, Johnson and Nixon, he threatens to recapture the presidency with a clear roadmap for toppling the traditional checks on the office.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/20/trump-threat-democracy-precedents

Oh dear. You expect the truth from the Guardian! 😂😂😂😂😂

15 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Splitting hairs...Anything to say concerning trump and co trying to disenfranchise Dem voters or are you going to try and deny.

 

Former President Donald Trump refused to unconditionally accept the results of the upcoming 2024 presidential election in an interview Wednesday with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/02/politics/donald-trump-accept-2024-election-results/index.html

The fact that you are getting this information from CNN speaks volumes. You do know that there is a reason Trump calls the main stream media fake is because they are so anti Trump it's embarrassing.