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What about South Korea where face masks are still compulsory indoors and on public transport? They have been experiencing a recent spike in Covid cases with Kim Jong Un blaming its neighbour for their own huge Covid spike. Note: mask wearing is also compulsory in North Korea. Did Singapore ever relax their mask wearing mandate for indoor and on public transport? Not that I'm aware. The only mandate that Singapore did away with was its strict outdoor mask rule in late March. And yet, all this mask wearing isn't preventing Singapore from experiencing a huge spike in Covid cases either. Also worth noting, Singapore had administered enough booster doses to cover almost 70% of the population – far more than Britain or the United States, but doesn't appear to be stopping another deadly post-vaccination wave.
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A mask doesn’t protect your eyes, no matter if you're wearing an N95 or a piece of surgical cloth. This tends to be overlooked when championing compulsory mask-wearing. Personally, I think it's all part of behavioural science and the first hurdle in getting people to comply and obey the stricter rules that will follow. This was probably one of the major reasons why so many preeminent scientists, including Dr. Fauci, changed their stance on mask efficacy by mid 2020, understanding the research carried out by the UK's “Nudge Unit” on how people would react psychologically and respond behaviourally to the new interventions. Why is it important that a mask doesn't protect your eyes, you might ask? Well, if we make a comparison with the common cold, you can still catch the virus through your eyes. When an infected person coughs or sneezes, they release tiny droplets into the air. The virus can travel to the nose and throat through a duct that links the eyes and nasal cavity, where it then starts the process of causing an infection. Even if you happen to sneeze wearing one of these flimsy surgical masks, tiny droplets could still escape and get released into the air, especially if the mask is worn incorrectly or taken off when eating or drinking. Also, if these droplets get on to your hands, you can pass them into your eyes by touching them. So do masks give the wearer a false sense of protection? That said, should you really be getting worked into a lather about the new variants? We already know that the new Omicron variants (including BA.4 and BA.5) are more transmissible but do NOT appear to lead to more severe illness. That's what all the recent articles have stated and the data appears to back it up. I've had it myself recently and I can say as a 60-year-old living in England I found it rather mild. So why the scaremongering all of a sudden? I'll leave that for you to ponder, but I will add there's a new Moderna jab coming out in September which is purported to target the BA.5 variant. Considering the rate that these variants mutate, I would've thought we'd have moved onto BA.6 and BA.7 by then (or even Sigma), ready for the next scare campaign about needing the next jab... and so on and so forth.
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‘Tourism fee’, now for all travellers to Thailand, ready to launch
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Since the government are considering extending the 30 day exemption to 45 days, shouldn't this insurance guarantee fee cover the proposed 45 days rather than just 30 days, or am I being overly perspicacious? -
What Movies or TV shows are you watching (2022)
Senior Player replied to CharlieH's topic in ASEAN NOW Community Pub
I just watched the latest Better Call Saul—season 6, episode 8—and it's a 10 out of 10 from me. No spoilers other than to say, not a single second is wasted in this totally gripping episode. Also, just watched The Terminal List with Chris Pratt on Amazon Prime and thoroughly enjoyed it. Based on the book series written by former Navy SEAL Jack Carr, the story follows James Reece (Chris Pratt) after his entire platoon of Navy SEALs is ambushed during a high-stakes covert mission. If you like good old-fashioned 80s/90s style actioners, then this is your huckleberry. -
Proposal to waive visa fees for foreign tourists to Thailand
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
That depends on your definition of a "normal tourist". The standard definition for a tourist is a person who is travelling or visiting a place for pleasure. There is no set time limit for this other than the current 30-day exemption rule, which could be extended to 45 days. And what about public sector workers who get much longer holidays than private sector workers? For instance, in the UK there are 5.5 million public sector workers who can stay longer than just 2 weeks if they so wish. Also, are gap year students who are backpacking for a couple of months (or longer) not tourists as well? That said, families on a limited 2-week budget will not be tempted to spend big bucks on a short holiday right now, not with the way things currently stand. They'll choose somewhere much closer to home and easier on their wallet. As for the extra vetting, a nefarious person with a criminal record can still get around the vetting process by simply becoming one of the many overstayers on a 30-day exemption. They don't tend to worry about rules, regulations and getting a proper tourist visa where they'll be scrutinized. -
Proposal to waive visa fees for foreign tourists to Thailand
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Depending when your extension expires, you will still have to apply for an extension as this is just another proposal that hasn't been implemented yet. When it comes into effect, then you won't need to apply for an extension beyond 30 days. -
Proposal to waive visa fees for foreign tourists to Thailand
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Just found out it pays to click on the link and read the article in full. The proposal is for the 1,000 baht visa fee and the 2,000 baht fee for Visa on Arrival to be waived until Dec 31. Not long then. TAT will also request the period of stay for tourist visas be extended from 30 days to 45 days, and from 15 days to 45 days for Visa on Arrival. I still think 30-days to 60-days would be better, and it also needs to go well into 2023, not just end on New Year's Day. After all, this is still a proposal and has to be implemented first. By that time, it could well be September or October before this is up and running. -
Proposal to waive visa fees for foreign tourists to Thailand
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Wasn't there talk of extending the Visa exemption from 30-days to 60-days, or am I just imagining that? Seems to be the best solution to entice long-staying tourists back to the country. Waiving visa fees on arrival won't do much to boost their numbers. -
Tourism ministry dual pricing proposal for hotel rates
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
I actually agree with you on the first part, as many hoteliers in Thailand have already slammed the government's plan to create dual-pricing for foreign tourists and locals. The "foreigner surcharge" will still get the same reaction from wannabe tourists to Thailand as the dual-pricing proposal—which, in effect, is the same thing. If Thailand really wants more tourism, then advertising that they'll pay higher prices compared to the locals for the exact same service is not the smart way to go. The only reason I can see for making such a proposal is TAT don't believe their own foreign arrival estimates for this year and want to ensure hotels are filled with locals rather than laying half-empty. Either way, it doesn't incentive your average tourist to book an already expensive flight to Thailand knowing full well that they're paying a hotel price that even the government admits to be inflated just because you're a foreigner. -
Tourism ministry dual pricing proposal for hotel rates
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Yes, I get your "book 1-night if necessary" suggestion, but how will that change the dual-pricing you'll find at the next hotel or the one after that? And unless you're a Thai national who is getting the 50% discount, how will you even know if your hotel is operating such a dual-tariff scheme if it's at their own discretion? It's not as if the Thais will be flaunting their 50% discounts to every farang staying in the same hotel. They'll pay discreetly and most new arrivals will not be even aware of the difference in room rates. Bottom line, the dual-tariff scheme is a bad proposal by the tourist minister and reflects poorly on the country. -
Tourism ministry dual pricing proposal for hotel rates
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
So after a 12-hour flight or more, feeling hot, sweaty and jetlagged, you're going to take all your luggage and go in search of another hotel that doesn't impose dual-pricing when it's most likely to be established across the entire town or city where you're staying at? I get your point, but I just don't see how this proposal is perceived as an incentive to boost tourism when they're being so open and blasé about its inequality. -
Tourism ministry dual pricing proposal for hotel rates
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Looking at the small print on one of the major booking sites there is an "Additional Charges by Accommodations" clause that allows the hotel to charge mandatory service fees, surcharges, and local taxes. It states: "If we are aware of these service fees and local taxes, we will display them with your reservation price. These service fees and local taxes may be collected directly from you by the Accommodation, in addition to the price you pay for your reservation." Depending on the mindset of the hotel or its staff, they could in theory charge you more upon your arrival or checkout claiming you violated their booking policy and put it down as a city tourist tax (farang tax) or surcharge. Of course, I'm talking purely hypothetical here, but should the government decide to push through with this dual pricing, it could tempt some hoteliers to double down and ask for more if they see farangs trying to circumvent their new policy by deceit or evasion. Until it happens, we just don't know. -
In the above article, it doesn't. But elsewhere, such as Bloomberg, it states: "Thailand’s tourism ministry plans to ask hotel operators to implement a dual-tariff structure under which foreign visitors may be charged rates similar to pre-pandemic days while locals may continue to enjoy discounted rates." Another news site says "Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn, the tourism and sports minister, said the government did not give a mandatory order about the issue, but wants to encourage hotels to shift room rates based on the market." Correct me if I'm wrong but the Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) is an organization of Thailand under the Ministry of Tourism and Sports, which would be Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn.
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Thailand to consider interim measures to prevent Covid spread
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
You're absolutely right. There were 1,540 more deaths than usual in England and Wales registered in the week ending June 24th, the most recent week for which data are available, according to the latest update from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), released on Tuesday. This is 16.6% above the five-year average. This also brings the total number of non-Covid deaths above the five-year average since April 29th, the start of the recent spike, to 7,840. Of these, a large proportion are occurring in the home, leading to calls for an urgent investigation into why thousands more people are dying than would be expected, despite Covid death numbers staying low. -
Tourism ministry dual pricing proposal for hotel rates
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Without knowing the full details of how this proposal will work, is it not possible to offer Thais with a Thai National ID card the 50% discount upon arrival at the hotel and keep things as they are on the booking sites? Also, some of these sites operate a "Book Now Pay Later" business model at the hotel, so it wouldn't be too difficult to implement. Just a thought. -
Suvarnabhumi Airport Sees Increased Passenger Traffic
Senior Player replied to snoop1130's topic in Thailand News
I've just read that the Government plans to charge foreigners more than Thais for hotel rooms. According to reports, the Ministry of Tourism and Sports plans to ask hotel operators to implement a dual tariff framework, under which foreign visitors can be charged the same rates as in pre-pandemic days, while locals will be charged discounted rates. Well, that should make us feel more welcome and get us booking our already expensive flights to Bangkok then. -
Again, you make the common mistake of saying the UK, when the Covid response is down to each of the four nations and their regional assemblies. For instance, Wales is now looking to reintroduce mask-wearing in their NHS hospitals, whereas the other three nations do not. Besides, the 87 new deaths a day you quote doesn't mean they all died of Covid, only with it. In addition, the number of daily death figures have remained pretty constant throughout the last couple of months with no excess deaths from Covid since Omicron arrived. For instance, on April 13, 2022, there were 651 deaths recorded in the UK (source: Worldometer). Did you get all worked up over that figure on April 13th, too? You'd have to go back to March this year to see a bigger increase in that number, and still that was nowhere near the peak levels of January 2021. The real story is there have been nearly 6,500 more deaths than usual in England and Wales from causes other than COVID-19 in the eight weeks since April 23rd, the latest data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show. Call me a cynic but this new scaremongering seems to coincide with a new 'super booster' Covid vaccine from Moderna which could be approved for use in UK within days and rolled out in September.
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Suvarnabhumi Airport Sees Increased Passenger Traffic
Senior Player replied to snoop1130's topic in Thailand News
The number of international flights stands at only 30% of the pre-pandemic level, according to TAT governor Yuthasak Supasor. There's also reports that insufficient inbound international flights and surging airfares are challenging the recovery. Add to this many airlines are reluctant to expand their routes or increase frequencies as several global uncertainties threaten profit prospects—including substantial operational costs caused by soaring fuel prices as well as the longer flying time required to avoid the skies above the Russian-Ukraine combat zone—and it paints a rather gloomy picture for the remainder of this year. Personally, I still don't see things picking up until we're in 2023. -
New Omicron Subvariants Will Spread Across Thailand Shortly
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
I had it about 2 weeks ago after visiting friends in London. I had the same symptoms as you except for the blinding headache. In addition, I had a slight runny nose (not constant or anything), but mostly a hacking cough and spewing up phlegm combined with chills and fatigue. It wasn't that bad; mild would be my own definition of the experience. It only lasted 5 days max, but I could still get about with ease when I had it. Just for the record, I'm aged sixty and not particularly fit. -
New Omicron Subvariants Will Spread Across Thailand Shortly
Senior Player replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
The 1 in 30 testing positive is for England, not Wales. Though prevalence rates were similar in Wales and Northern Ireland. This figure is taken from an ONS survey of randomly tested people who were tested and needed to be informed that they'd had one of the variants. So what does this mean? According to the UK's Daily Mail: "Hospital admissions have trebled in the last month, piling pressure on an already overwhelmed NHS, although only a fraction of patients are primarily ill with the disease." It's worth noting that the detail is in the wording. So the hospital admissions are not from Covid, but are patients being tested as a matter of due diligence when receiving treatment for other ailments, and as a consequence are being included in the hospital Covid admission figures. And the reason for an "already overwhelmed NHS" is due to the huge backlog of patients waiting for elective care due to the long lockdowns in the first place. There was a funny article from yesterday's Daily Mail (online) instructing people how to spot the difference from summer hey fever and one of the new variants. Basically, the new variants are so mild they could be mistaken for summer hey fever. The guide was meant as a scaremongering piece, but it ended having the complete opposite effect. -
As I pointed out a week ago, it's too risky to book an expensive flight to LOS right now as the Thai government have form in slamming on the breaks and going into reverse gear. The plan to downgrade the Covid-19 status from a pandemic to an endemic disease faces a deferral for another week, as health authorities are keeping a close watch on new subvariants and the consequences of lifting restrictions. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it faces yet another deferral after that, then another, and so on. From a UK's perspective, the latest Office for National Statistics survey show that infections are rising, but we are not seeing nearly the same levels of hospitalisations or deaths as we did before the vaccine roll-out. Figures published just last week show that an estimated 99.3% of the population have antibodies – whether through infection or vaccination. So as a result, although infections are rising, we are not being swamped by yet another Covid wave. If you want to use the UK, or Europe for that matter, as an example for more Thai restrictions, then you need to be aware that hospitalisations are still low, despite the usual scare stories from the legacy media.
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It's worth pointing out that the 43% rise in infections in the UK is taken from the Office for National Statistics (ONS), which is based solely on swabs collected randomly from selected households. This figure is not a reflection of high admissions to intensive care units, which still remain low. The ONS stats reveal that in the week ending 11 June an estimated one in 50 people in the community in England are thought to have had Covid – around 1.13 million people. The figure is even higher, at one in 45, in both Wales and Northern Ireland, while it was highest in Scotland where, in the week ending 10 June, one in 30 people are thought to have been infected. Citing the UK government as a whole is disingenuous as each of the four nations has (or had) an entirely separate approach to combating the virus. If you recall, Scotland and Wales held on to all their strict mandates for much longer than England and they are now seeing a higher rise in infections. Prof John Edmunds, of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said it was likely multiple factors were contributing to the rise in infections, including a shift in behaviour towards pre-pandemic life, waning of immunity from vaccines and previous Omicron infections and the rise of BA.4 and BA.5 Omicron variants. He does not, however, attribute the rise in infections solely down to not wearing a constant "little piece of fabric" covering the face!! Prof Azra Ghani, an epidemiologist at Imperial College London does state: “This increase in infection prevalence is likely due to the growth of the BA.4 and BA.5 Omicron subvariants, which as we have seen elsewhere in Europe, appear to be able to escape immunity generated from previous Omicron subvariants." He goes on to say: “It is therefore possible that we will continue to see some growth in infection prevalence in the coming weeks and consequently an increase in hospitalisations, although these subvariants do not currently appear to result in any significantly changed severity profile. This does however serve as a reminder that the Covid-19 pandemic is not over.” Now, some might read into the above statements from the Imperial College London and choose to believe that the sky is still falling. Personally, I see a lot to be optimistic about. Sorry to disappoint. You can read the full article in The Guardian, if you feel so inclined.
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From 1 July, 2022, foreign nationals are only required to show proof of either a certificate of vaccination or a negative RT-PCR or professional ATK test result within 72 hours of travel. Without such proof, arrivals will be given random, professional antigen tests upon arrival at airports... Have I read that wrong? I'm simply following what the Thai government are putting out there in their official press releases. Now, you claim that we don't need to do any of those things, which tends to fly in the face of what they're advocating. Who to believe? Discussing how hassle-free the whole Thai Pass procedure was at this point is rather moot, considering that the requirements will be lifted for all people arriving in Thailand from July 1. (Again, I'm happy about this). My only concern is that by keeping hold of their state-of-emergency powers, these old measures can easily be reinstated at a moment's notice. I mean, it's not like they don't have past form on making sudden U-turns. All I'm saying is, I don't feel confident enough to book a pricey flight to a faraway destination that hasn't quite decided to live with Covid yet. Drop everything and keep it that way, and I'll be on a high-priced flight back to Thailand.
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Arrivals will need only show their vaccination certificates or Covid-19 test results according to Taweesilp Visanuyothin, spokesman for the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration. So they're getting rid of the Thai Pass but still keeping some of their state-of-emergency measures then? Whilst I welcome the abolition of the Thai Pass, I still don't feel enticed enough to fly to Thailand yet. Not until they've completely abolished all their state-of-emergency measures will I consider it. That means not taking any COVID-19 tests before I travel, or showing booster certificates upon arrival. After 2 years of avoiding this virus I finally succumbed to the omicron a few weeks ago. I'm sixty and I can honestly say I've had worse bouts of flu than this. Sure, I felt a little under the weather, tired and achy, but it really wasn't all that bad. After a few days I felt right as rain again. Fingers crossed that Thailand drop all their state-of-emergency measures to deal with Covid-19 and get back to normality pretty soon.