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1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:
Perhaps the thinking is that the army is sitting on trillions of baht and can weather this. The "people" are rarely considered in their decisions.
Anutin's worth a few $$ too, heir to a major construction company fortune. His family's company, Sino-Thai Engineering and Construction PCL, built several government mega-projects such as Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi Airport.
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7 minutes ago, Traubert said:
OK, well spotted.
24,043 in America. THAT is an outbreak.
Talking about China and Anutin's plan for a travel bubble with it not the USA
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3 minutes ago, Traubert said:
Why? 79 is severe?
You keep saying the figure is 79, its not, well over 100 now.
The next three days will be critical for Beijing to curb the outbreak as people infected with the coronavirus start to show symptoms, according to Wu Zunyou, a top epidemiologist with China's Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The earliest cases in Beijing were likely infected with coronavirus near the end of May.
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9 minutes ago, Traubert said:Yes, now 79 cases. Thank you for rising so early just to hand out the insults.
over 100 now actually and thats from yesterdays figures
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Just part of China's propaganda machine designed to sidestep and deflect the real source without evidence.
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Beijing has stopped all inbound salmon flights, supermarkets and restaurants have removed it from purchase ????
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3 hours ago, kiwikeith said:Read the NZ herald today an exclusive report about China cover up of actual cases and deaths said to be under reported by at least ten times.
So pork pies have been rife in China and LOS wants to open up to them as a safe country.
Yea read that, its from a new study by Mai He, Li Li, Louis P Dehner, Lucia Dunn
The study says that, based on its inferred data, China may have had anywhere between 305,000 and 1.27 million Covid-19 cases by February 7. The number of dead, it finds, was likely already about 6800 to 7200.
Official figures released by Beijing at this time reported only 13,600 infections and 545 dead.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.28.20116012v1
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No foreigners around so lets blame the Bangkokians
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1 minute ago, JCP108 said:
All Norwegian salmon-related?
A varied array of items I think.
Inspectors took 1,901 samples from meat, surfaces, dustbins, handles and other objects at the market, and 40 tested positive, the officials said. https://time.com/5853242/beijing-new-coronavirus-outbreak/
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This is credible news?? From Siwattra Phatbo in Beijing, a Thai freelance scriptwriter making a post on facebook!
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2 hours ago, rvaviator said:
Well .. I live in Beijing and based on my experience what Bo Siwattra is saying reflect what I see and experience.
Apparently a chopping board used for cutting up salmon was found to have the virus on it in that market.
Not just a chopping board, 40 other positive environmental samples https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/13-06-2020-a-cluster-of-covid-19-in-beijing-people-s-republic-of-china
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We have some rather creative journalism going on here with conflicting reports on the data used to compile these rankings.
In the NNT National News Bureau of Thailand report it states:
"To decide rankings, 70 percent of the score was assessed from the drive and changes of the daily situation based on the number of patients under treatment; the rate of cured patients per number of patients; the number of tests per confirmed patients and the number of tests per population of the whole country"
The above in my opinion is complete spin and not a true reflection of how the data was complied, how a country like Thailand with such low testing ratios compared to the rest of the world could get ranked so high? The truth probably being that the data was not at all compiled as above. The actual data gathering for the first 70% score assessment did not include testing information or data on number of daily patients under treatment at all. Instead it relied solely on the number of deaths per captia as stated in their report:
"Proportionate Death Rate due to COVID-19
This parameter takes into consideration the crude death rates of each country and factors its population size, and then compares this to the death rates due to COVID-19 since the first case was reported in the country. This gives a true reflection of how death rates are being affected by COVID-19 in these countries.The remaining 30% consist of static scores derived from the Global Health Security Index (GHS), an initiative led by the Johns Hopkins University that was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The GHS was developed to assess a country’s readiness to cope and handle any epidemic."
https://covid19.pemandu.org/about/
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Beijing said the virus was over, the virus did not listen
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Bat consumption in Thailand
Respondents who either had eaten bats or knew people who had eaten bats said that they were usually prepared by frying or stir-frying with garlic, chili and/or basil; or boiling in curry after discarding the intestines and wings. Some people also ferment bat meat as they would pork, and serve it with rice; or prepare a spicy bat soup.
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35 minutes ago, vermin on arrival said:
There will be risk no matter what one does. but unless there is a quickly developed and reliable vaccine or drug therapy, or the virus miraculously disappears, herd immunity will be a necessary protection.
I'm hoping the Oxford vaccine which has just entered the final phase 3 trials will be the one, if so then it would be ready by the end of the year to start distribution as they've already started manufacture. Of course there are also other very hopeful candidates if this one fails. Hopeful being the key as we know a vaccine is not guaranteed.
Beijing now has an outbreak, after 50 days with no new cases, the main seafood and meat market has a cluster, not good news. This will just replicate in every country with sporadic outbreaks now and again, always on tender hooks until we get that herd immunity, either natural or via vaccine.
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4 hours ago, vermin on arrival said:
Which comes back to the thought that number of new cases is not the true metric because that can be changed by things other than a true surge in infections (reporting, increased testing, changing in what is considered a confirmed case, change in tests used, etc).
True, but I think we we also have to draw a distinction as to what stage the pandemic is in at any particular country as well as other causes for surges. For example the UK has increased testing to an average of 200,000 per day since the beginning of June, previous to that it hovered around 100,000 per day. But as a result of this large increase in testing the trend line and daily new case figures continue to drop.
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2 hours ago, TigerandDog said:
I can almost understand why, and in all truth it has NOTHING to do with Covid-19. In an article published by the temple, they state that with the areas closed for renovations, foreigners would be extremely unhappy if they paid their 200 baht entrance fee and then couldn't see anything because it was closed for renovations. So to a degree it actually makes sense not to let foreigners in until the renovations are complete.
They could of course drop the fee if that really was the reason. Makes no sense whatsoever
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1 minute ago, 473geo said:
Ah it's the amount people are reluctant to pay is it? Here was I thinking the discussion surrounded Thai people free Tourists paying.
It is............at Wat Pho which is very clear in the OP
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16 minutes ago, 473geo said:Ha Ha I am sure many do, but for sure they will not be the ones quibbling about a 20 baht 'entry fee' and screaming 'discrimination'
You do realise this thread is about Wat Pho which charges tourists 500 Baht and free to Thai's
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6 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:
That’s 15th June, I’m talking about today and this weekend
no, so that answers your question
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11 minutes ago, 473geo said:
Thai - a place of worship- daily contributions to Temples through out Thailand
Majority of Foreigner - Tourist attraction - pay towards maintenance and upkeep
Simple economics
I think you'll find that tourists aside from their entrance fee also make voluntary contributions and are encouraged to do so by way of donations in the provided boxes, aside from the stalls selling trinkets for economics.
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2 minutes ago, 473geo said:Locals, indigenous people, those who contribute to temples on a daily basis, versus those from overseas who choose to come to view the fruits of their labours. Justification for making a charge - simple economics
Nobodies disputing locals who make a contribution though?
It is a distinction between Thai's and foreigners, simple discrimination.
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5 minutes ago, possum1931 said:
If only the tourists dollar is important to the government, why did their policies cause lots of expats to leave, and tourists to stop coming? and this was way before the "pandemic" came.
The Chinese Yuan?
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15 minutes ago, cyril sneer said:
18 consecutive days and still not allowed a glass of wine dining out
Yes you can actually, they also mentioned that hotels, restaurants and eateries can from the 15th June serve alcohol.
Steroid dexamethasone reduces deaths among patients with severe COVID-19 - trial shows
in World News
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Yes great news on this, cheap as chips drug, lets hope more treatments like this are discovered.
Had the drug had been used to treat patients in the UK from the start of the pandemic, up to 5,000 lives could have been saved, researchers say. "There is a clear, clear benefit. The treatment is up to 10 days of dexamethasone and it costs about £5 per patient. So essentially it costs £35 to save a life. This is a drug that is globally available."
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53061281