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Jane Dough

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  1. 4 hours ago, tingtongfarang said:

    when i first arrived here years ago it was december, people kept asking the same question over and over again

    (you have plan khao dow?) i came to the conclusion after a quick translation rice star must be some kind of budhist festival and maybe better avoided,

    On the second year i realised people were asking if i had plans for count down.

    In my Thai langauge classes for foreigners one of the most favorite modules/lessons was the pronunciation of foreign words in Thai. It was great because everyone knew the vocabulary from the start and could concentrate on saying it correctly. I often said to my students that the most outlandish way you could pick to pronounce something would often lead you to be better understood. 

     

    I always started the topic by telling people that the hardest word to say in Thai was "coke".

     

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  2. 4 hours ago, stouricks said:

    Nice cut & paste, perfect English. Now what the f..k does it mean?

    I have a massive vocabulary because I am a professional Scrabble player (and one who cares somewhat about meanings). I didn't know echolalia or xenoglossophobia and enjoyed Googling them. The former seems to refer more to a child learning language repeating a word from a question rather than actually answering that question. This is actually one area where learning Thai is so easy. This is because then answering questions it is often only necessary to repeat, say, the verb. So the answer to "mee ngern mai" (do you have money) is not chai (yes) but "mee". This characteristic of the language gives the leaner an opportunity to use lots of vocabulary and hopefully learn to pronounce it when all they are doing is agreeing or saying "yes".

     

    My strategy as a Thai teacher was always to focus on why the language was easy to learn, not why it was hard.

     

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  3. 4 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

     

     

    One of the biggest issues (especially in rural Thailand) is the inability of Thais to understand my Thai.

     

     

    In the west if you speak something that is not spot on, or tonally correct, the personal to whom you are speaking can usually work out what you are saying from your 'near miss'. In Thailand there are no near misses, you are exactly right - or you are wrong.

     

    The worst example, apart from my inability to communicate my duck egg purchase, (to a guy in a local market who only sells duck eggs - "Ao khai bpet, sam sip faawng, khrup" didn't cut it) was a beer order in a local restaurant/bar. I thought that "Ao LEO lek, khrup" was quite clear...... 3 times I repeated to order to the quizzical waitress before she exclaimed "Oh............ LEE - O...... you want big or small?".  

     

    What else she thought I might be ordering in a bar was beyond me.

    Perhaps you are assuming that Leo is an easy word to pronounce so that you are understood. It's not. Yes it has to be very clear as you say, Lee - o (two common tones). The waitress probably didn't grt your pronounciation so "lek" wasn't understood. Did you pronounce "lek" with a high tone....if not it is iron. It is important to pronounce as many words in a sentence correctly to be understood in Thai. For a further example I strongly suspect I could say to you : Ao Leo Lek khrap and you would understand me. Even if I pronounced it to mean "Bay Leo Iron Drive". Your ear is trained to something you are familiar with. A Thais ear is trained to the correct pronunciation of each word. I have learnt Thai as an adult foreigner.....I can hear mistakes but because I know those mistakes and can figure things out (after being a Thai teacher for years) I can get it when people pronounce things wrongly better than most Thais.

     

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  4. 5 hours ago, Mops59 said:

    1109 people is not enough to be representative for the outcome of a survey. And when 77.5.% of these people wants the government to be vigilant the whole country will go bankrupt because of 870 people. But I guess the whole world will print money to overcome bankruptcies, hunger and unemployment . With thanks to the WHO for calling it a pandemic and scare the world big time.

     

    If you look online at surveys and sample sizes you will see that a sample size of 1,000 in a population is considered more than enough by statisticians. 

     

    Criticism about the size of the poll does not wash with me. I'd rather look at the questions and how loaded they are.

     

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  5. 17 hours ago, Morty T said:

    Enjoyable read until once again your liberal brainless clap comes to the surface.

    Thanks for reading.

     

    Sorry my comments about the incumbent in the White House don't meet with your approval.

     

    But Rooster is a breed that does not have a red neck and will continue to crow about that despicable person. It's not being liberal, it's being human. 

     

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  6. 100B. Though reading some of the suggestions on this thread it looks like I will have to approach my 7 year old with a Covid-19 pandemic tooth fairy contingency reduction scheme. 

     

    50 baht sounds much better.

     

     

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