Tod Daniels

Okay this is how 90 day reporting really works (whether it was your experience or not) 

You can apply for a 90 day report in person from 2 weeks before down until 1 week after the due date with no fine,
BUT
That does not mean if you leave within a week of your report being due you have a 'grace period' and don't report.

The rule is written that if you're in thailand on the 90th day you are obligated to report. 

However with that being said, the people at passport control stamping you out of the country don't care in the least if you EVER filed a 90 day report or not (it's not their job). You won't face any scrutiny stamping out of thailand and back in when you return about not having filed a 90 day report within the prescribed time frame  

Your next 90 day report will be due 89 days from the date you stamp back IN to the country, <- and it's at that time they might catch you failed to report on time for the previous 90 day report and they could fine you 2000baht before they let you file again.

Chances are they won't catch it when you come back and go to do the next 90 day report and you won't be fined but just wanted you to know that is a possibility. The up side is the fine is 2000 baht and doesn't increase. So if they do catch that you didn't file on time before leaving it's just the 2000baht   

29 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I dont bounce sport, I have a Cambodian long term visa and since January I have one out to Thailand and three in via that crossing.

 

Ahhh there we go, you are "reverse bouncing" and would NEVER see a problem coming from that way, until you hit your two land entries per year (if you're from a country that is limited like that) and get told you can't enter by land but have to fly

It's the people who live IN thailand that have the issue bouncing out back to continue staying in thailand at that border 😛 

1 minute ago, anotherfarangishere said:

Seems I should take a bus from Khon Kaen...?

Just go to Nong Khai and use the main border with Lao up there at the friendship bridge
 

48 minutes ago, anotherfarangishere said:

Interesting, thank you. I don't know the area at all. Do you've some recent experience to share?

How do you go to Mukdahan from Bangkok? Regular bus? I don't want to use minivan.

there is NO fast way to Mukdahan (which is like Nakhon Nowhere Thailand 😮 ) It's the province across from Savannakhet Lao, and people go to that border who live up there, NOT from bangkok as there's no train, and there's no fast way there..

Take a regular bus to Nong Khai (which is the same hours to get to as Mukdahan) Like the company Nakhon Chai Air. They have really NICE buses and good pricing too 

14 minutes ago, anotherfarangishere said:

Yes, I should have mentioned "no minivan", my mistake, sorry..
 

I could even take a night train to Nong Khai and walk to the border, I have done this several times in the past. It's ok these days, no problem at all, just to pay for the Lao Visa in $? No need to stay one night in Laos?

Did someone has a recent experience?

One more thing: do you think the new 60 days extension - when it will be effective, I know right now it's always 30 days - will also be valid for visas run by land or limited to airports?

That no mini van sure throws a wrench in the gears 😕

Sure take the train to Nong Khai, stamp out of thailand, buy the VOA for Lao, take the bus across the bridge, stamp in, stamp out, take the bus back and stamp back into thailand.

There is no amount of time you have to be out of the country only that you can only get TWO free 30 day visa exempt entries by land in a calendar year (Jan 1 - Dec 31) so as long as you haven't burned your two land entries this year you're good

As far as the 30 day visa exempt switching to 60 days the last update from the Thai Public Relations Dept said that it was "expected" to take place at the end of June or the beginning of July 

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Sucks to be them I reckon. Everyone is different.

 

 

wanna answer when you bounced last or just leave it at that?

If indeed you are going to Cambodia and will spend some time there being a tourist, you shouldn't have an issue with comin' back in by air.
 

The thing is just because you possess a valid visa to thailand doesn't mean you get IN to the country on that visa (if they think you're living here on it). All it means is if they let you in they stamp you in for the time that visa allows (in your case 60 days)

I am not saying you're going to get hassled or denied entry, just that if you're only after another stamp to stay here in thailand 60 more days bounce with a border bounce service by land out and back for it.

31 minutes ago, Nedrapter said:

I see. Thank you. My METV was issued near the end of April, so it should be good until Ocrober. Thank you.

you need to have that PDF file they emailed you when you got the visa approved (if it was via the eVisa online website) because that IS your visa and you have to show it every time you stamp in to the country and if you're going to get a 30 day extension at the immigration office too

Bangkok, Phuket, Chiang Mai, Buriram, Samut Prakan offices all allow you to get an extension when you have 45 days or less left on your current stamp.

That means IF you show up free entry (30 day visa exempt) you can go the very next day if you want to and apply for a 30 day extension at those offices.
 

Where as if you have a real 60 day tourist visa entry (TR60) you can go for the extension 2 weeks after you stamp in 

Keep in mind there are a couple offices Jomtien which requires you have a week or less left on your 30 day entry or 60 day tourist visa stamp and Samui that wants you to go when you have 2 weeks or less left on those stamps 

It was not uncommon (before the online 90 day reporting program came live) for the Thai immigration offices to take weeks and weeks to mail that receipt of a 90 day report back to the applicant. I once waited 10 weeks to get the receipt and got it just days before I'd decided to go in and apply for the next report in person 🙂

If you don't get the receipt back in the mail you DO have your receipt from Thai post showing the EMS tracking number and what day they received the previous report, so even if you don't get it in the mail before your next report, when you go to apply (which you WILL have to do in person) next time you can show you did indeed apply previously.

I have also seen people going out to report, saying they never got their receipt mailed back and have the officer pull out a BIG BOX of 90 day report return receipt envelope that they had returned to them by thai post as un-deliverable and pull their envelope out of it 😮 

sadly when the Thai consulate in the UK went to eVisa online applications they eliminated the multiple entry choice for Non-O visas based on marriage to a thai.
The system defaults to a single entry and there is no way to change the field to multiple
These are the choices to get the 90 day single entry

Sadly you can't get a Non-O visa issued for "trailing spouse" to a foreigner on a "retirement visa" inside the country
AND the only consulate that used to sell them (Penang) stopped..  😕

What I have seen "creative" agencies do 😮 is get the trailing spouse a non-ED visa for 90 days, get ONE extension on it based on education (because the first extension has to be for the reason it's issued) THEN what they do is "CHANGE THE REASON" for the extension from education to "trailing spouse". 😛

There are reports agencies are doing it for people in Pattaya and Phuket. Never seen it in bangkok or Chiang Mai though

One thing you WILL need to do is get that marriage to a foreigner certified by the embassy of the country you married in  because without that you can't get the "trailing spouse" extension against your retirement visa

That's IF the embassy of the country you married in here will do it. FWIW; the UK and US embassies won't certify marriages anymore. You have to send it back to those countries and do the process there, get them stamped by the thai embassy there and then sent back here)..

Hated to be the bearer of bad news but that "trailing spouse" Non-O is a TOUGH visa to get, no consulate in S/E Asia will issue it for a person married to a retirement visa holder 😕

2 hours ago, Joratewitch said:

 

Hello, can you confirm Savannakhet requires the 400k to seasoned two monthes ? Thanks!

I can confirm with 100% certainty that to get a year long, multi-entry, non-o visa based on marriage to a Thai they require a bank book updated shortly before you go there showing you have 400k baht in a Thai bank account in your name only for 2 months before you apply or you will only get a 90-day single entry.

This is an image from the poster on the wall at Chaengwattana Bangkok Bank showing the letter (which can be in thai or engrish)
 

It is just a simple letter stating the account, your name (sometimes your passport number) and the balance of the account the date you got the letter.

 

𝟭) 𝗔𝘀 𝗜 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 "𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗮 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲"( 𝟯𝟬 𝗱𝗮𝘆𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗮𝗹) 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗜 𝗼𝗯𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻 𝗮𝗻 𝗲𝗱 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗮 𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗜 𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗞𝗶𝗻𝗴𝗱𝗼𝗺?
You can enter visa exempt, FIND a school, enroll, pay the tuition, have them apply to the Ministry of Education and once that paperwork comes back you can apply for a 90 day ED visa at the immigration office in the area where the school is and where you live
 

𝟮) 𝗜𝘀 𝗽𝗼𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗮 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 (𝟯𝟬 𝗱𝗮𝘆𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗮𝗹) 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗼𝗻𝗹𝘆 𝗮 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝘄𝗮𝘆 𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗲𝘁?
That is between you and the air carrier.. SOME carriers have a policy that if you come in "free stamp" (no valid visa in your passport) that you have to show onward travel within the number of days you will get stamped in for (in your case 30)  

𝟯) 𝗛𝗼𝘄 𝗹𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝗯𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻 𝗮𝗻 𝗘𝗗 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗮?
Most schools take between 2 and 4 weeks to get the paperwork from the MOE once they submit your packet for approval
you also need to have between 2 and 3 weeks left on your current stamp once the paperwork comes back to apply for the ED visa inside the country at the immigration office  

𝟰) 𝗜𝗳 𝗜 𝗱𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗱𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗹𝘆 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗮 𝘁𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗮, 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗶 𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗹𝘆 𝗮𝗻𝘆𝘄𝗮𝘆 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗮𝗻 𝗘𝗗 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗮 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗶 𝗮𝗺 𝗶𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗮𝗶𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱?
Yes, no problem and in reality you should probably get a single entry tourist visa before you come here because that stamps you in for 60 days when you arrive and you can get one 30 day extension for 1900baht at the immigration office.

That will give you plenty of time to find a school, have them process the paperwork, and to still have the time you need on your stamp to apply for the ED visa at the immigration office  

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

 

They won't accept it if it's in a foreign bank account.

I thought that was about someone trying to use 40K baht a month income method?

Good to know if it's just 400K in a thai bank though, thanx  I will edit my post

On 2/1/2024 at 11:42 AM, Jaymatheson said:

I speculate multi entry is still possible if I had gone another day and chatted with a different official.

That would be an incorrect speculation. 😮

Neither Savannakhet nor Vientiane offer year-long, multi-entry Non-O visas based on being over 50 (retirement) nor do they offer a year long, multi-entry Non-O based on having thai children.

Both those reasons can only get a 90 day single entry visa 

The ONLY year-long, multi-entry Non-O they issue is based on marriage to a thai and that now requires you show proof of 400K baht in a thai bank account in your name only OR proof of the equivalent in your bank account in your country. Sorry, there are reports now that they will only accept proof of funds in a thai bank account in your name only for 2 months 
Sorry for the bad info 😞

The two consulates that definitely issue year long multi entry non o based on marriage to a Thai in Southeast Asia are

Savannakhet Lao and Penang Malaysia

Both require proof of funds 400k baht in a Thai bank account in your name only for two months before you apply,or the equivalent of that in a bank account in your country.  It appears that proof of the equivalent of 400K baht in a bank account in your country is no longer accepted. 
Sorry for the bad info 😞

Neither consulate will issue year-long visa for Thai child, only 90 day single entry

There are no reports I could find of people getting year multi non-o from HCMC or Hanoi.