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24 minutes ago, yengec said:

I understand the warnings about to setup a business in this country and the risks of thai girls. Im 29 years old and my gf is graduated from highschool and she still learning look like remote education online at Bangkok. She is working in a shop at central festival for more than 1 year. I mean, she is not a type of girl who is lazy and getting bored too quick. Also we will hire 1 more thai for this job. In a mall there is 12 hours operating hours and one person is definitely not enough. In the food park of the malls, some of them deducts %30 of the gross selling price. Some of them just ask fixed rental price such as 12-16000 bat per month. Actually, the mall rental prices seems much lower than the street shop rental fees. At least for this size of job, I need a small shop or stand, the bigger ones is unnecessary for now. In my opinion, the success is mostly affected by wrong strategy. If your product is being marketed on wrong location and your shop is over priced rented etc. of course it will be bankrupted. 

I see something wrong here. If a Thai cannot work 12 hours at a shop, I would not help her.

12 hours at the shop means many hours playing with her mobile or watching TV, she should be able to do it. Paying another staff is not acceptable when starting this kind of business, in my opinion, and 12 hours job would be a condition for any Thai working for me.

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Don't know from such cheap steak restaurants but nice low fat chicken kebab dishes can found at local Iranian and Lebanese restaurants. With Lebanese you'll get garlic sauce and fries. With Iranian you'll get lovely Persian rice.

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Thank you, can I know what are the 2 first places that come to your mind ?

1 hour ago, Airbagwill said:

Firstly there is probably more land available for organic  farming in Thailand than you think.

Largely areas are still primitively farmed without any pesticides etc and if taken on BEFORE the local agri-businesses get to them their is relatively virgin land to be had. I presume you realise that the criteria for organic farming are pretty cut and dried and international?

 

As for customers abroad, like the EU, there are already standards set and monitored....anything outside that is rejected.

The problem is that if a farm isn't producing food for export it isn't monitored properly. In areas like Rayong's with high industrial pollution, they have to grow and sell to whatever market they can.

 

 

Incredible to read how much you are dreaming ! Ridiculous !

10 hours ago, Card said:

How many times have I read on this forum that Thai food is "so damned delicious, cheap,  healthy and never done me any harm", especially regarding street food.

 

Thai food is generally NOT healthy, due to the contaminants and street food, using cheap oils that are overused and overheated is the worst.

 

And organic? How many studies that they are also contaminated do people need before they stop claiming it is the only way to ensure safety from pesticides in Thailand?

 

The only way forward are GMOs (ex herbicide resistants) that help crops resist pests and diseases.

 

Personally I try to restrict myself as far as possible to imported frozen foods and peelable local fruits, but doubt they are pesticide-free, but at least the frozen stuff is generally fresher and has some kind of traceability and standards compared to the local market stuff.

Exactly what I wanted to say ! it's so difficult to eat anything healthy in this world...

Hello, among the cheap steak restaurant, can you tell me if any sell an acceptable grilled chicken breast ? It seems to really depend on the restaurant: so many times they serve a very bad oily and fat chicken, but sometimes (even at street restaurants) it happened that the chicken breast was perfect as I would do it at home (no fat/no oil/no bone).

What are the places where they sell cheap chicken steak at Pattaya ? Jeffer ? Santafe ? And maybe some in the streets (location?)

Thank you.

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Doubt Thais would buy them on the street, so tourists would be your market.

Crepes/ waffles/ pancakes etc sell on the street near Chiang Mai night market for about 50 baht or less ( forget exact price ). That is your competition on the streets.

 

From the photos you want to sell mall style waffles, so big jump in rent.

 

If you are the sole source of finance and your GF is going to be the worker, I'd say you are on a loser before even starting.

If she has nothing to lose, there is nothing to say she won't quit when it gets tough or boring.

 

You are treading the same path that hundreds if not thousands of foreigners have already trod and not many, if any, made it work.

 

 

In the same sentence you say that Thai would not buy in the street but then you say that they sell waffle IN THE STREET at Chiangmai... Maybe only tourists buy them, right ?

It seems that the OP has more chance to succeed any business than you...

And as you do not know his GF, you should not say that she won't succeed. It depends on his personality and he doesn't seem to be a buffalo unlike most people who open a business for their GF. No Thai girl that I helped to start business has ever been thinking that they didn't care because it was not their money. And the main reason is that they knew how I would be angry and what would be their punishment.

5 hours ago, yengec said:

 

Thanks for your comments. I have studies business administration in the college but never interested since I made my career on the finance. The thing is im bored in finance and I want try my chance in food business as a side job. I know this is a small start up but thats all i can risk  for a first shot. I can make a good feasibility report on any job and this one attracts me because I believe I can get a good market share by this type of waffle. Currently, we decided to start it in a mall's food court. We negotiate and check all the requirements for this job. When they all settled up, we will start to operate and I will let you know from here :)

 

How much for rent in a food court ?

Why not buying a food truck for 500k baht and selling at different places ?

On 11/27/2017 at 1:45 AM, yengec said:

Thanks for all the replies until now. About the Thai people spending, most of them really spend like a crazy. My GF, her friends, any girls who works at malls like Central, Royal garden etc, they spend big portion of their salary on foods but again I dont rely on their taste about this waffle. 

 

About the cost, the plain cooked waffle cost is 10baht(flouregg milk etc everything included), hazelnut 13 baht, fruits 10 baht, coconut and some colorful powders 5 baht, in total its 35-40baht (excluding rent and the electricity). For ex few days ago I tried to make waffle and used a compound chocolate, also it would cost me 7 baht per waffle but I dont like the taste I shifted to a quality hazelnut. Now it tastes delicious.

 

I am still checking many locations and ım on the dilemma of outside small shops and inside mall shops. For ex in this picture it was currency shop on beach road close to walking street. Few days ago I see it was free and I make my GF to call the owner. He asked for 3sqm cube shop 1m THB keymoney/lease and 30k THB rent. This is an insane number and my business is certainly not enough for this rental fee. 

 

 

The risk of to rent a shop at beach road or any outside area are;

- The key money discourages and stress us in the case of the business fails

- In day time when the weather is hot, people may not want to eat hot waffles on the street by walking

- On this road only some farangs may like to buy this waffle. Since mostly Indians, Thais and other tourist who walks by this shop may not even try at this price.

- Even the business goes well and we start to make money, the other Thais will copy it and its inevitable to see many waffle shop around me. 

- Also the shop owner may force to increase the rental fee and some bribe issues might be happened too

- The worst part is to see a Thais on the bike is selling waffle for half price in front of my shop

 

The advantages of a shop inside food court of a mall;

 

- Its busy for 12 hours and even Thai people tend to spend this much money on a waffle. So I get a higher range of customers.

- Customers can eat by sitting, not only take and eat on foot

- It ıs more isolated area and I have less threats since the mall management usually doesnt allow the same industry shops to be opened in the same area(assuming the food court)

- In the malls I asked the rental conditions, they are not keened on key money or some absurd moneys. They ask for reasonable conditions.

 

 

 

I think that you will succeed ! You have already been thinking more than any Thai opening a business.

But still, I think that it should be you who sell in a street stall/cart, because of course as you said, it will happen if you open a shop with direct access to the street. So why paying for a useless rent ?

On 11/27/2017 at 12:36 AM, CHdiver said:

No it's not useless. Imagin he opens the shop and put's a sign with Desert Shop up, he would never make any money. And don't count on the Thai sign maker to correct him.

Of course he would make money, do you think that any Thai knows how to spell DESSERT ?

On 11/26/2017 at 8:13 PM, Rimmer said:

Maybe get some ideas from how successful the doughnut stand is on Sukhumvit at the traffic light junction of Chaiyphruek and Chaiyphruek 2 

I do not see them any successful.

Any update ?

Good quality PVC windows color do not change, but how to know before buying that quality is good ?

Good quality PVC windows color do not change, but how to know before buying that quality is good ?

Hello,

Ubon is the best town where anybody not totally insane would live in Esarn.

So many cheap new hotels in town (300-500 thb) but do you know if there is a cheap hotel / guesthouse near the river ?

Thanks.

11 hours ago, BAYBOY said:

i have used several Thai public hospitals over the last 10 years...apart from the waiting time(perhaps on 10% of my time) I have only praise how well they are run.

Remember Thais are "morning people" so they get to the hospital well before opening time. Try going mid afternoon and the place is empty of patients.

our Amphur has approx 20,000 adults and 1 public hospital. The only private clinics available are closed during the day as those doctors are working in the Public hospitals. Every Tuesday morning is the Diabetic clinic and the place is humming, again mid afternoon it is empty. 

Last week I had my medical for extending my work permit...blood test ,urine test, chest xray, and a brief talk with the doctor. Went at 3pm, in out 30 minutes cost 500 baht.....wonderful.

 

Cheers BAYBOY?

It's far to be always true !

Sometimes the queue is so long that if you do not show in the morning they won't give you any queue ticket !

15 hours ago, TunnelRat69 said:

True story  -  my farang neighbor had a motorcycle accident, drove into a huge hole in the middle of the street at night - Ambulance came and took him to a Hospital in Chon Buri, his accident was in Jomtien - they kept him for 2 nights and 3 days - he felt fine, so asked when he could go home, they said five more days , he called his GF and told her to call the hospital and tell them his insurance had expired and he had no money - they released him that day .... his story not mine.  When she asked why they took him to the Chon Buri hospital, the company said "thats our hospital, we take all farang there" 

When it's not a life emergency (or even...) ambulances bring you to the hospital that pay them the most, of course private. So anybody with a brain who is not in coma must tell that he wants to go to a public hospital.

4 minutes ago, giddyup said:

8 years here, never a visa run, report to immigration every 90 days and an extension once a year, cost 1900 baht.  Couldn't be easier.

I do not speak to these people even for an extension. I prefer to drive 3 hours to the border than reporting anything.

So useless for Thai to go to hospital so often, and they actually mostly die because of the food that they eat !

Visa run every 3 months and no need to speak to any official... you decide... but I usually decide to whom I speak to !

Great that you were able to get rid of this rat. Next time YOU should be the one kicking him off his bike !

Koh chang has no nice beach on the east coast, and it is not even cheaper.

5 hours ago, JohnC said:

Headed out tonight to try a new Indian on third road that advertises " British Style Indian Food "  Balti Towers, Got there at 7pm , all in darkness! No sign of life so not sure what's happening. Anyway as a backup we went to Bollywood on Pratamak Road and we were not disappointed ! Tasty food, good portions and pleasant service! We will return!  

Are you sure that it is located on pratamnak road ?

1 hour ago, 1BADDAT said:

My reason for leaving was simple.  My contract expired after 2.5 years.  It was a really good contract and part of the terms were 
I had to return to work within the same company where i was before.   

 

I could have found another job, but I really didn't want to do that because most certainly it would have been a lower paying position. I made great money but managed to spend pretty much all of that money.  I really enjoyed the lifestyle I had and downgrading from that would have been tough.   On top of that I would still have to pay US taxes regardless (which my current company paid for)

 

One of the biggest things that made me leave is that I didn't want to get used to the lifestyle that I had.  I lived lavishly and did not save money.  I enjoyed it 100% and wouldn't change any of those decisions.  I was 37 and too young to rely on building financial wealth over there.  A lot easier to make money here in my field and also through real estate or retirement portfolio or whatever. 

 

I still have the option to move there whenever I want.  I am not sure if I will move there permanently in the near or distant future.  I do know that as bad as some people bash the US, I have WAY more options here and very few roadblocks.  If I could be guaranteed that stability and availability in Thailand, I would have probably never left.

Too young to think about financial stuff but looking for stability ? So finally the only real reason to leave is that you fear the future ?

7 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

South Pattaya Rd. directly opposite Friendship.

Is it DTG printing ? Thank you.

11 hours ago, Pib said:

HDDs will be around for a long time yet.  Most new computers are still sold with HDDs although we are seeing more come with SSDs.  And HDDs are still cheaper than SSD....and a lot cheaper when you get up into the 1GB and higher storage range.    

How many percent of buyers need more than 256 or 512 ?

But still stupid brands sell stupid HDD that are the cause of 90% of windows and computer OS failures.

It's so funny that some sales persons at computer stores don't even know the benefits of SSD, ridiculous them. Then some people ask me why I refuse to talk to any seller in this country, before having made my own choice.