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15 minutes ago, Huckenfell said:

I have just got my O-A visa stamped in for another year, no insurance was required.

You did it on the 27th October. We have already been down this route. No insurance was required on that date.

33 minutes ago, brianj1964 said:

If what you suggest is true it applies to anyone with an O-A visa who came here without requiring insurance then leaves for any reason then requires it on their return. I think Ubonjoes interpretation was also visas issued before the 31st did not require mandatory insurance. People on here have been saying the same thing since it was ordered. Would you ignore the date I was given if it was you or would you buy the insurance? I get some saying I've done nothing wrong i get 1 BM suggesting i will be on overstay for 11 months.

Nobody is suggesting you have done anything wrong nor suggesting you rush out and buy Insurance. What you would need to do is take stock of your own report and those that have followed you in receiving a stamp for 30 days. Immigration simply don't take responsibility for stamping errors. It is on you to ensure that for whatever reason, you are stamped in with the correct permission to stay. You need to take note of post 358. That is the correct course of action to be taking.  

14 minutes ago, brianj1964 said:

I do not read Thai but have since spoken with people who do and they have all said the translation clearly stated visas applied and issued after 31st October required insurance. I applied for mine in mid October and valid from 15th October, possibly the IO who stamped me in took the same iterpretation, i don't know

did the original order state it was people who enter after 31st October? It seems that some IOS took that from the order, I've PMd a couple of senior BMs who have extensive knowledge of visas and Thailand, both say I have no problem "in their opinion" when I exit in 12 months time, given the error was theirs, I arrived with a valid visa. I am quite confident they probably won't even notice, time will tell but I value your opinion

The order makes no mention of people entering after the 31st October. The date of the 31st October only pertains to the start of legislation for entrys and for the application of new OA applications. Hence why it is being applied to ALL OA entry's and extensions of OA visas, no matter when that original visa was obtained.
In the case of 'given the error was theirs' it is imperative that you understand why section 4 is written in to the order.
Good luck

8 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

That's bs. Why do you think people using the >800k in the bank method can't go below 400k since March 1? Do you think it's a coincidence that the minimum coverage for the insurance is 400k? People on O-A Visas don't need 1 bath in the bank,while people with the O Visa with extension normally have a lot of money in the bank. Plus, many of them already have insurances. I bet this never occurred to you. 

Really? Can you explain why O-X visa holders need an initial 3 million baht in a bank account allowing a withdrawal down to but not less than 1.5 million baht and still require Health Insurance? And please, this very much 'All occurs to me'.

25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Again you refuse to answer my direct question. 

Because of that I advise readers to await reports that are backed up better than your unsubstantiated insinuations. 

So you will refute once again what I post and not make your own enquiry? You can at least now begin to understand why people that do have good information mostly cannot be bothered to post.
No matter, it changes nothing.
Good night

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Hmm.

You DID NOT answer my question!

Come on now. THIS IS SERIOUS.

You claimed people doing retirement extensions with original O-A visa at Jomtien are NOW being denied for lack of health insurance.

I ask you to expand on how you know that is actually happening, and you don't answer.

That is very fishy. So either  be more specific about your actual direct knowledge of these denials or admit you are writing fiction. 

If you don't believe me, either go there and ask or call them. I've no reason to tell you otherwise. It isn't only happening in Jomtien.
Sorry, if you think I am being elusive but I really cannot divulge any further.

2 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

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yes but unfortunately even the Thais will have to ask or address the question, why require long stay OA to have insurance but not require long stay O to have insurance?  Both are long stay and for so called "risky" expats.  If the Thais are willing to dismiss the equivalence of O and OA, then the only reason left is the insurance ploy is a pure money grab scheme, and they get foreigner's money before they even leave their home countries.  Of course Thai Saving face mentality would never admit to such a thing if it were true.  Sadly, I predict O or any long term visa or extension will require Thai insurance soon.  The only reason that may not happen is because there may be an uproar from the local Thais that depend on the foreigners and expats for support, marriage, children raising etc.  If insurance becomes draconian, well the expats may have to leave.

This is only the curtain raiser, not the Grand Finale. It is coming to all long term extensions. Remember where you heard it first.

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

This is news I think. 

So you know for a fact Jomtien is now requiring (Thai) health insurance for annual retirement extensions when the original visa was O-A? Really? How do you know that?

 

If so, so those with original visa O are not having that issue?

I know the same way as I have been telling you since the published police order that it was going to apply to any O-A extension, no matter when the original O-A was issued. It's there in the police order. Some just refused to accept it and put there own interpretation on it.
No, it doesn't apply to Non O visas or extensions pertained from a Non O visa. It only apply's to 0-A visas or extensions of, past, present and future.
Right on key, we have another denial here. Post 112

If anybody is thinking of getting Health Insurance and then cancelling it once you have the visa, then best to think again. They already have that scenario covered. Plenty of denials in Jomtien, Thursday and Friday attempting renewed extensions on previously obtained O-A visas, some dating back years and years.
Just as a few of us told you it would be. No Thai Insurance (They are not accepting Insurance obtained outside of Thailand) then you are sent away and told to buy Insurance.

 

4 minutes ago, esposa said:

Thank you, I wasn't expecting them to cover the cost of his flight and him not pay it back. We'll be contacting them tomorrow anyway. I'm not even sure she has the full story from him so I am hoping I can be there when he next makes contact.

The other issue is they absolutely won't send him the money, even if they will do it in case he simply spends it. It will need to go through a third party.
Good luck anyway