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4 minutes ago, marqus12 said:

what if the airline that brought me here flies directly outside of Thailand
only to china and vietnam and in both cases I have to get a visa

in advance for these two countries ???

The decision is made by the airline but in the case you have stated above, you are likely going back to your passport country.

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Isnt that only at the airport IDC ?

I couldn't tell you. I have always attempted to avoid it. What we do know, is that there are people in IDC that have been in there for around 10 years or more. Until everything is paid, fines, flights etc your not ever coming out.

3 minutes ago, bslmh said:

Thanks, I’ve Tried everything and I don’t want bothering anymore, the agent will do it better...

I just hope they will improve their app...

 

 

 

Honestly, the website is fine.It works on a default basis. If you have had multiple attempts it will default back to a previous selection. The problem your having are the pending files I spoke about. Until you clear them, you will continue to have issues.
Good luck anyway.

6 minutes ago, SpokaneAl said:

 

I didn’t realize there was no room for discussion/disagreement here when dealing with a self appointed expert. Sorry.

 

 

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No need to be an expert, self appointed or otherwise to understand a simple 4 paragraph order. It isn't an instruction manual to build a Nuclear power plant.

5 minutes ago, bslmh said:

Anyway, the system showed invalid purpose of visit ! 

Go into the pending application folder. Delete ALL the pending files and OK them. If you don't ok each file, they will not delete. Log out, and then log in again. Check back in the folder and make sure the files are deleted. If they are all gone, start the application again

6 minutes ago, bslmh said:

With all respect, may I suggest you to register on this bs website (first hassle), then you can simulate applying for a non O “marriage” visa, then you will see the only option is the one I showed “visiting or staying with applicant’s family residing in Thailand) it’s a drop down menu (I don’t know the right name in English)

The two other options are 50+yo, and “Participant in a humanitarian mission / volunteering”

…about dealing with agents, they say they can’t apply for “marriage visa” anymore, so I asked for 50+ yo

He is correct. You do not select a visa. You select a reason to visit and the system selects the correct visa.
visiting or staying with applicant’s family residing in Thailand is the correct option.

5 minutes ago, SpokaneAl said:

 

That is not the way I read paragraph one. The translation is a bit odd but it sounds to me as if one will stamped into Thailand for the valid period of the insurance not to exceed one year.


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OK. You now want to argue about how it works? We have already had the experts telling me all week none of this will effect extensions of an O-A.
Carry on with however you think it works. I am quite capable of reading Thai Police orders and understanding what they mean. In fact, I am quite capable of reading and understanding Law period.
Over to you

It doesn't matter regarding the FIRST entry.
1st entries on a new O-A Visa are stamped in for 12 months, no matter if your insurance has only 11 months left.
2nd and subsequent entries are stamped in until the valid till date of the insurance.
Just pay attention to section 4. If you only have say 11 months on first entry and you stay 12 months as per stamp, you MUST renew the insurance before it expires or your deemed on overstay and the stamp is reverted back to 11 months.
 

1 minute ago, bslmh said:

Obviously I know that 

but if I can’t DIY...

 

At these prices, get somebody to do it who is familiar with file uploads etc

 

• Type
• Service
• Consular Fee
• Handling Fee From
• Total From

• Single entry, 3 months
• Next day
• £30.00
• £100.00 + £20.00 VAT
• £150.00

• Multi entry, 6 months
• Next day
• £150.00
• £100.00 + £20.00 VAT
• £270.00

Here is the one near the London Thai Embassy. Nice work if you can get it.

https://www.scottsvisas.co.uk/thailand/united-kingdom/tourist

1 hour ago, bslmh said:

Supposed to do so Yes !

but as I previously said, i’ll use an agent which will provide the whole thing, no other choice for me 

The agents still apply using the Evisa website. They simply charge for the privileged for doing it for you. Travel agents register on the website so as to do multiple applications.

27 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

I'd recommend anyone in this position makes their own enquiries at their respect offices and repot back to build a picture. 

Check your PM's.

5 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

No Insurance required.

You've already extended your permission of stay from a 1 year entry of an O-A Visa.

 

No you haven't. Only for your current extension.

I believe this is being misinterpreted.

Q. If I previously held an O-A Visa, but have already been granted an extension based on retirement, is proof of medical Insurance required.

A. No, if any permission to stay from an O-A Visa entry has previously expired and you've already extended your permission to stay based on retirement, then medical Insurance is not required.

Current permissions of stay do not require Medical Insurance. You will not need to rush out and buy Insurance. 'You have already extended and have a 'current' permission to stay'. That is your 'Current' permission. Not future permission when you extend again.

1 minute ago, Momofarang said:

Maybe "Lovethailandelite" has a vested interest in this disinformation?

 

If you are struggling to understand, it's best to say nothing.

Just now, Peterw42 said:

What rubbish, I entered on an OA then switched to a marriage extension. You extend your stay not the visa you arrived on. Immigration does not and cannot extend a visa.

NO VISA is ever extended.

I never said that some offices haven't done it. What I said is they shouldn't of done it. Read the police order an understand what it means regarding an O-A visa and extensions of. You can shout rubbish as much as you care too. Fact is, an O-A cannot be used for an extension for marriage. The Insurance will be needed for the O-A and extensions 'of'. Marriage extensions aren't mentioned because they simply shouldn't be allowed to happen from an O-A visa

Just now, Tanoshi said:

The O-A is specific to long stay and being over 50 agreed, the proof of which is submitted to a Thai Embassy/Consulate to obtain the Visa.

The Non O can also be issued specific for being over 50.

The only difference between an 'O' and 'O-A' is the permitted length of stay.

'O' is for 'other', 'A' is for 'annual'.

 

Annual Extensions are also issued for specific reasons.

Retirement - must be over 50 and granted a Non Imm class Visa.

Marriage - must have been granted a Non Imm class Visa

 

Police orders do not state a specific Visa class, other than Non Imm type.

 

The Police order relates to an O-A visa and extensions 'of'. At the end of the day, it can be spun how people care to look at it. Cold reality, is the fact that an O-A isn't allowed to be extended for any reason other than retirement. If it was, section 2.18 would be included alongside section 2.22. I would say with 99% certainty that those people that have managed to get an extension of marriage on an O-A, will have a problem after the 31st October when entering the country and the annotation of the original 0-A is seen.
Lets see if I am right.

3 minutes ago, chrisinth said:

How do you arrive with this when the reason for extension has changed?

Because an O-A visa is a totally separate class of visa and is issued for only one purpose. That is for being over 50 years old and the only extension allowed is for retirement. A Non 'O' visa is issued for a number of purposes. It isn't how I arrive at it, it's how immigration and the MFA arrive at it. The majority of Immigration offices would never allow it to happen.

11 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

The only requirement to obtain an extension based on marriage or retirement in terms of Visa class is that it must be of the Non Immigrant type.

Orders don't define whether that be an 'O' 'O-A' 'B' or 'ED' Visa and it is quite often down to Immigrations discretion to decide whether to grant an extension from other than the standard Non 'O' type Visa class. 

The O-A is for a specific reason, that is for being over 50 years old. Go and check at an immigration office. If this was allowed, it would be mentioned in the police order. It isn't mentioned in the order regarding the extending of entry's from an O-A to marriage as it isn't allowed. An O-A is a visa class of its own.

Just now, Momofarang said:

Utter BS.

No it isn't, it isn't allowed. Now here's thing. You have managed it. Your original O-A visa is noted in your passport and on likely on your extension. It hasn't up until now been a problem. The next time you extend or enter the country after the 31st October it may well be.

49 minutes ago, saengd said:

Is it possible to transfer from an O-A visa to a marriage extension, in country or do you have to go out and obtain an O visa first and then come back extend under marriage when you return?

No. You cannot go from an 0-A to an extension for being married. Some people have said they have, I believe that was a mistake by the immigration office and they should never of allowed it. An O-A is a visa class of it's own for being over 50 years old. The original entry on the O-A will be noted.

55 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Perhaps it would have slept on if people had not made such a nuisance of themselves over the TM30 requirements?

The decision was taken back in April. People such as Vloggers and media outlets decided otherwise.

1 minute ago, Paul944 said:

I can't find anything for a E-visum on the website of the Thai embassy or consultate in the Netherlands. Only this form http://www.thaiembassy.org/hague/contents/files/services-20180315-093549-736429.pdf and go to the consultate before 13:00. Well I will see Friday what happens there.

Unless it has been recently put in place, the only country's using E visa at this time are China, France and the UK.
https://thaievisa.go.th/Home/

20 minutes ago, Sean Rock said:

Multiple entry is an option - here is a screenshot from the online application site

 

When you attempt to apply, the system will not allow it.

http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/84508-Non-Immigrant-visas.html#6