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10 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

The herd will be smaller because they died? 

At a rate of 0.2 to 0.3% of death from Covid for those below 70, it will take quite some time to cull the herd.

Have a look in Florida, for example, the population is not shrinking because of covid...as a matter of fact it is growing because of all the people fleeing the Democrat states...

32 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

I am sure covid will not end humans, as a species, however, many covid protocols will remain, long after covid has been dealt with.  

By "protocols", I suppose you mean freedom restrictions.

They will remain for sure, in the same way that the "protocols" following 9/11 have remained since then...

29 minutes ago, khunPer said:

I think that the government will be able to do it according to their plan, i.e. between now (May 1st) and end of the year for about 70 percent of the population.

 

 

Starting in June would mean reaching 70% in 7 months, a target very unlikely to be reached.

The US, for example, who have been vaccinating at full tilt, have reached 50% in 4 months, and things are starting to slow down for lack of volunteers...Europe is way behind such numbers.

If I had to bet, I would say somewhere between 30 and 40% by year end, for Thailand, that is, if vaccinations do really start on June 1st...

"Vaccination Plan to Drive Growth"

With at least 15% of its GDP missing, thanks to the death of tourism, one wonders how the Thai economy could actually grow? (unless they compare it to the second half of 2020)

Vaccination is not going to change anything to that, since it won't add anything to the GDP.

For now it seems that the only vaccine offered to the masses in Thailand is going to be the Astra Zeneca, with its rather dubious reputation, at least in Europe.

This lack of choice is likely to keep many on the sidelines, until other vaccines are available...if ever...

9 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

Makes you wonder if there will be any genetic deformities in future generations.  

Or if there will be future generations...

4 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Don’t look now, but western currencies sinking, as the mighty Baht keeps rising.  Perhaps all this vaccine talk is just a smokescreen...

There were some technical reasons as to why the baht was going down until now.

Many foreign companies were repatriating money from dividends earned on investments in Thailand, and paid in March/April.

From now on, the baht could we'll go back to where it was a few months ago...

1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Global economic depression is guaranteed and as Thailand relies heavily on exports and tourism it is bound to be felt here.

Right!

And we all know what comes (came) after a global economic depression.

That will be felt here too...

3 minutes ago, berrec said:

 

Until the Thai government have the supply-chain, logistics and qualified medical staff to continuously test and retest every one of it's 70 million citizens + farangs + foreign workers (legal and illegal) in the country 

 

Continuously, as in every day, or only every other day?

How much are you willing to contribute, financially, in that gigantic effort?

Thailand is not a socialist paradise, like in North America or in Western Europe, where money grows on trees...Thailand has to earn its money...

15 minutes ago, nkg said:

 

 

When you look at the covid stats for Asia, almost all the countries with the lowest number of deaths are connected by a land border (Taiwan's people originate from China, Timor-Leste has a tiny population).

 

Can it really be a coincidence that all the least-affected countries are located in one geographical area? Countries sorted by deaths per 1 million population:

 

 

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

 

 

 

 

According to many here, all these countries have banded together in order to provide fake covid numbers.

The truth only lies in Washington and Brussels...everyone knows that...

49 minutes ago, ZimSong said:

With this rate it would take years and years with this on-off red zone bulls--t madness. One month business open, one month business close. You can't run any businesses like that, you will run out of cash eventually. The economy will collapse worse than in the Great Depression. 

This is the most important which seems to totally escape the panicked masses: a massive economic depression is coming!

Until now the governments have kept the house of cards from collapsing with huge amounts of borrowed money, sending the national debts into the stratosphere.

Sooner or later the piper will have to be paid...and it's gonna be painful...

20 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

 

to think that Thais are immune to COVID or were not affected by COVID in great numbers thanks to lockdowns, Quarantine and the great government policies, it is being in denial, in true Thai style ????

This is a bold statement backed by...nothing!

45 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

 

Unfortunately life is never going to be a beach again until everyone is vaccinated

 

This is a pipe dream.

There never has been 100% of the population vaccinated with a 100% efficient vaccine.

And globalization makes it far more difficult to deal with this pandemic (see the Burmese migrant workers who brought the virus back to Thailand last December)

12 minutes ago, GrandPapillon said:

people will stay at home and die there, will not show at the hospitals, hence the improbable low numbers

And get no funerals...because funerals are a very visible thing in Thailand...

Moving around my area I don't see or hear about any...but maybe they are all dying on the other side of the country...

44 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

you in the prize for most misinformation in a short post (that’s a new category in our Awards department).

 

Below shows the decrease in new infections in the US this year when mass vaccination began. New infections are decreasing.

 

The vaccine can be prophylactic as well as mitigate symptoms.

 

The death rate of the vaccinated from Covid19 is about 1 in a million.

 

 

Well, from your chart, the situation now looks very much like what is was last summer.

The fact (not misinformation, but published numbers) remains that today the US has about 60,000 new cases, and 800 deaths, against 1,500 and 15 respectively for Thailand.

Adjusted for population size, the US has 8 times more cases and more than 10 times more deaths than Thailand...despite having fully vaccinated 25% of its population, while Thailand has barely started vaccinating...

45 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

despite western countries being finished with their vaccination programs.  

 

Far from it!

The US has 84 million fully vaccinated people, roughly a quarter of its population.

Western Europe is far behind that, being as usual stuck with it soviet style bureaucracy in Brussels.

8 minutes ago, mlmcleod said:

I see that Chon Buri is in the highest restriction category.  I have yet to see any information on how many Covid-19 cases are occurring in Chon Buri.  I have long suspected that Pattaya has many more cases than the government tells us.

For your information, Chonburi had 131 new cases today.

Yet cases don't mean much, since most are asymptomatic.

Much more interesting, and reassuring, is the fact that are only 871 severely Ill from Covid 19, for the whole country...

1 hour ago, Dene16 said:

 

 

A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular disease

If you were correct the virus cases would still be rising as everyone would still be getting infected

Unless you are claiming to be one of the 90%

 

 

The virus cases are not really decreasing...see the US for example...despite massive vaccination.

One can get infected after being vaccinated, since the vaccine operates from inside the body, and not outside.

The vaccine is supposed to protect one from being sick, not from being infected.

Yet, there are more and more cases of people getting sick from Covid 19 after having been vaccinated, some of them even dying.

Time will tell more... 

31 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

 

 

For the millionth time, lockdowns serve to reduce the level of new infections so that hospitals are not overwhelmed with the sick, like in Brazil and India today. 

Sure thing.

Just look at France, one of the champions of lockdown...the country still has 30,000 cases et 300 deaths per day, which is more than India (adjusted for population size) and about 20 times more than Thailand.

Other European countries are not faring much better with their own lockdowns...