THAIJAMES

10 hours ago, DrJoy said:

Encouraging news indeed.

Are you sure this was the Ministry of Interior (MOI) interview?

Did you get a letter informing of the same?

I'm sorry I can't be absolutely sure of anything.  It was a committee of 35 people run by dopa.  I did get a letter signed by the permanent Secretary of Chiang Mai but it had no letterhead. Supposedly the last interview.

36 minutes ago, Marcati said:

Well done!  Should be just a year away now from having your ID card.

 

I assume you had to sing because you're not married to a Thai?

I wish it was only one year maybe I'll be lucky everything's going so fast.

Yes I applied as single after having 6 years of permanent residency.

10 hours ago, Arkady said:

Potential applicants need to bear in mind that CM, Phuket, Chonburi and maybe one or two others are the exceptions amongst provinces outside Bangkok. The vast majority of provincial Special Branch offices either point blank refuse to accept applications, claim it is not their job or go through the motions but in the end are incapable of doing anything for applicants other than drop subtle hints about backsheesh. Perhaps this will change, if the MOI really manages to wrest the processing away from Special Branch as suggested by the recent cabinet resolution.  However, since nothing ever gets easier with citizenship or PR, I somehow suspect that axing SB from the equation will not be in the interests of applicants, if it ever happens.

That's almost exactly what my SB officer said, that he had had a lot of inquiries from other provinces but they were unable to proceed because they didn't know the process.  Or couldn't be bothered with all the steps.  If anybody in Chiang Mai is interested in applying for citizenship I would urge them to apply soon because he'll be retiring in a couple years.

Who knows the enthusiasm or capabilities of the next person.

It also has been my experience that if administration changes from guys in the special branch police, which it is now to the moi which will be mostly women, things will be much more difficult because women tend to be very careful, picky and scrutinize everything.  Just like in the old days when immigration was mostly guys and it was very easy to get extensions etc now that it has changed to mostly women the process has generally become more complicated and detailed. With very little flexibility.

22 minutes ago, DrJoy said:

James you're a provincial candidate? maybe thats the cause of delay.

 

My friend applied for it in Bkk around april 2018 in dec 2021 he was Thai, so its a tad over 3 yrs

Yes I think the process and the provinces is a little bit more complicated with more steps but it could just be because of covid because I only applied less than a year ago. The three years is somebody ahead of me in Chiang Mai

On 2/19/2022 at 11:34 AM, Arkady said:

If the little committee interview is delegated to CM, the CM recommendations should go straight to the big committee, not hang around in the MOI for years.

The SB officer did say that it would take the committee in Chiang Mai about 1 month to come to a decision at which time I would know the result and then it would be sent to Bangkok to be put in some kind of que.

I think the 3 years is the total time since application and for the documents to come back to SB for the swearing ceremony.

On 2/15/2022 at 12:09 PM, david143 said:

Its Meeting mint/suggestion
Waiting RG which will wait another few months or may be year to implement

When I talked to my SB officer about this he said that even if it changed over to the control of MOI he didn't see the language requirements changing.  I would apply soon anyways.

On 2/19/2022 at 11:34 AM, Arkady said:

But the timing seems strange: MOI interview after a year, then saying it might take 3 years after that. After MOI interview there is nothing to be done but forward the recommendations to the big committee which usually meets a couple of months later to rubber stamp the recommendations which are then sent to the minister for signature.  If the little committee interview is delegated to CM, the CM recommendations should go straight to the big committee, not hang around in the MOI for years.

I think 3 years is because of the backup with covid.  It'll probably still take that long or more just to clear up the people ahead of me.  Since I already have permanent residence there's no urgent need on my part for citizenship.  But it makes you wonder what they do during that time that takes so long.

1 hour ago, DrJoy said:

So long? What was the topic of discussion ?

Everything you could possibly think of.  Work, source of wealth, family, relationships and politics.  Although everything had already been documented and answered in the chiang mai interview.  Maybe my Thai it's too fluent.  I can see that if the interview was in English it would have been much shorter 5555.

1 hour ago, DrJoy said:

Is this equivalent to NIA interview as in Bkk?

Does the process work differently in the provinces?

I don't know the answer but I do know that I had two NIA interviews one in person in Chiang Mai and a zoom one from Bangkok both extremely long over an hour and a half.

2 hours ago, Marcati said:

Very lucky to get it done so quickly...........  good luck

Thank you I really feel lucky too considering how extremely long my permanent resident application took.

14 hours ago, Arkady said:

I hope for your sake you are right but I think it's unlikely to be the final MOI interview. The members of the big committee that makes the final recommendations to the minister are listed in Section 25 of the Act and the composition of the little committee that does the MOI interviews is the same but the officials can be a rank or two lower.  It is not shown in the Act but was listed in lengthy Thai language guidelines that used to be on SB's website.  There is nothing about provincial governors or deputy governors chairing the committees, although they could conceivably be delegated to do so. The chairman of he big committee is supposed to be the undersecretary of MOI, the senior bureaucrat at the ministry. Most of the agencies and departments on the committee have people up in CM, except the Foreign Ministry but they might not have people in CM of the rank entitled to sit on the committee.

 

As previously mentioned, I recall others having to do similar interviews in CM and Phuket with high level local officials and singing before being referred to the MOI for the main interview.  But let's see.  Good luck in the interview and be sure to start the royal anthem low enough that you have enough register in your voice to get in the high notes without having to drop down an octave.

That's a good tip for the Royal Anthem because I'm always dropping an octave.  I did talk to the SB officer today and he did say it was the last interview. That it would then go to the interior ministry to be put in the queue.  He warned me that that may take 3 years or more for the process.

16 hours ago, DrJoy said:

1 year is super fast, impressive.

Good Luck for your interview.

Yes the officer in charge at SB is really really nice and very helpful. Really on top of things. It's actually only been 10 months because I applied in April after sonkhran.

22 hours ago, david143 said:

Brother which date is your Interview.

It's Tuesday the 24th

From what I was told there's about 60 minority groups and 16 foreigners one of the foreigners couldn't make it back into the country.

4 minutes ago, david143 said:

After interview please share with us

Thank you I will

On 2/15/2022 at 11:15 AM, Arkady said:

I think they  have a different system in CM and do their own interview to approve the application before putting it into the MOI system. I remember reading about someone doing a similar interview with local high ups in Phuket some years ago. I guess it would be equivalent to SB Bkk approving your application with no set time for the MOI interview to follow.

I have to sing the national and royal anthem next week. I'm under the impression that it's the final moi interview, the full committee.

Less than one year from application, pretty good for Chiang Mai.

On 2/14/2022 at 5:09 PM, Marcati said:

Out of curiousity, when did SB send your documents to the MOI?  We are all trying to see where we are in the queue for the last interview.

 

Thanks!

In early January remember this is for Chiang Mai.

On 2/1/2022 at 2:39 PM, saakura said:

By way of information, on SB recommendation, I applied on the basis of being married to a Thai national even though I also qualified on the basis of having a PR for over 5 years. Will that have any effect? Thanks for any help!

He was correct because you would get more points for having a higher income and PR documents would still be counted as points and you wouldn't be required to sing the national and royal anthem.

Income required for married persons is lower therefore you would have higher points.

7 minutes ago, david143 said:

Yes
There is only last and Final Interview which will held at # MOI Building in Pathumthani .
MOI has alot of Sections
Regarding Registration and Administration Citizenship section is maintained by BORA.
interview is simple as ABC.
introduce yourself,
where you work , salary . nature of work, blah blah blah done

i finished in 2 mint and out .
 

Thanks I'm in Chiang Mai and the moi interview is in 10 days. I was just confused because the poster said that there was a Bora interview one year after the moi interview.

I'm not sure if it's a little bit different here as the interview will be chaired by the deputy Governor, police officials and officials from other departments

7 minutes ago, david143 said:

MOI
Minister of interior

BORA
Bureau of Registration Administration

Committee is under MOI and interviews conducted by BORA STAFF 

Sorry I'm a little bit dense, do you mean that one year after the MOI interview, staff from Bora will call you or ask you to meet them for an interview?

If so what is the topic of that interview.

On 2/1/2022 at 6:32 PM, sinthavee said:

There is no need to get alarmed. You are likely to have your final interview at BORA some time this year.

In my case, I had my MOI interview  on 20th July 2018 & my BORA final interview was on 21st Sep 2020. It took 26 months.

You might call & check your application status by calling BORA office, Lamlukka(Tel:02-791-7332).

All the best.

First time I've heard of Bora interview I thought that moi interview was the last one. Can you provide some more details of what that interview is.

3 hours ago, Tarteso said:

I, old man 62 y, who live in Chiang Mai, have not received any vaccine or news in any of the applications registered to receive my jab in this country, living practically in voluntary quarantine to avoid risks and they want to open the door to tourists... Stupids Clowns !

Tomorrow at promenada or McCormick you can get Pfizer just show up with your passport.

6 hours ago, Michael Hare said:

I also got rejected because I am a permanent resident (PR) with no visa.

After reviewing your registration, it can not be further processed due to lack of required visas.

Please note that this registration platform is ONLY for foreign residents in Thailand and are not Thai nationality.

 

I am a PR too I just provided an expired copy of a non-quota immigrant Visa.