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On 7/14/2021 at 11:12 AM, Havenstreet1940 said:
Having had the first vaccination, how sure can anyone be that the 2nd dose will be adinistered, since there is a shortage ofvaccine in Thailand.
There is an additional complication now: if some of those who received a first dose of Sinovac now need a second shot with AZ, it will further stretch the already very limited supplies.
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8 minutes ago, clivebaxter said:
Had a text from Chulalongkorn yesterday with date and time for a sinopharm jab. Applied in May I think, don't know if it's still possible, cancelled it as had AZ already.
Same here, got an invitation for July 19th but cancelled as I already had a jab in June via the intervac site.
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4 hours ago, Agusts said:
It's the same in all countries , why is it hard to report this, if counting positives, just do another for negatives, very easy and would have great information value....!
Actually it IS reported by some countries, Below the Dutch figures; green is number of tests/week, yellow: positive tests (both left y-axis) and red (right y-axis) the % positives. It is not that easy to interpret as the number of tests varies significantly in time. Source: RIVM.
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Preliminary data from Israel suggests that protection by the BioNTech-Pfizer vaccine may start to fade after only six months. However not everyone is convinced. Sadly hard data are lacking as usual. https://www.timesofisrael.com/data-appears-to-indicate-covid-vaccine-protection-starts-fading-after-6-months/ . A brief discussion of the subject can be found here: https://www.npr.org/2021/07/06/1013496220/protection-provided-by-the-pfizer-vaccine-may-might-be-fading-israeli-officials-. It is not a secret by the way that Pfizer has been pressing for a third shot for some time.
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If PCR COVID tests are advertised for 10 Euro (or the equivalent) or so, this means they are heavily subsidized as just the material/instrument costs exceed this amount. In France, the actual cost for test + labor is estimated at ca 43 Euro.
To give some idea of costs of PCR tests in some European spots (prices from last week);
Holland: Travelclinic 95 Euro, Pcrtestnederland 119 Euro (from their websites)
KLM healthservices: 90 Euro
However, Corendon (the airline) provides a test for 40 Euro, but only for its customers.
Germany: Frankfurt Airport : 69 Euro, results in 24h up to 199 Euro, results within 75 min
Dusseldorf airport 59 Euro (24h) up to 149 Euro (45 min)
Average for various airports is 69 Euro (24h result) https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/inhalt.pcr-test-kosten-mhsd.de782a46-1bee-4e6a-a35f-9984e7593372.html
Spain, Barcelona (various locations): 85 Euro https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/testen-fuer-die-ferien-so-viel-bezahlt-man-fuer-coronatests-in-europa. Some charge much higher prices.
So with 100 Euro = ca 3,850 Baht, a cost of 3,000 Baht/test would seem reasonable. Note that in Thailand, fine chemicals are taxed heavily as I remember all too well from working at a Biotechnol. Dept.
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The idea of potentially reducing interval for AZ jabs to 8 weeks in Thailand was probably based on a decision by the UK to reduce interval to a maximum of 8 weeks for both Oxford/AZ and BioNTech/Pfizer vaccines due to the ever growing dominance of the Delta variant, see https://www.health-ni.gov.uk/news/introduction-shorter-interval-between-vaccine-doses. Whether it will actually occur in Thailand with the present vaccine shortages is another matter.
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I had my first shot of AZ on June 22nd, so far only minor side-effects such as sore arm and moderate headache that disappeared after ca 24h
From the literature it appear that hives (urticaria, red itchy welts) sometimes occur only one to two weeks after administration of AZ (or other) vaccine, see this quote from the Melbourne vaccination centre 'Delayed urticaria following a COVID-19 vaccine. Acute generalised urticaria can occur one or two weeks following vaccination. The symptoms can last on average 3-4 weeks but may resolve more rapidly. The urticaria can be generalised and intensely itchy. For adults, symptoms can be managed with up to 4 tablets per day of non-sedating over-the-counter antihistamines (such as cetirizine 10mg, loratadine 10mg or fexofenadine 180mg). This type of urticaria with onset that is delayed after the vaccination is generally not an indication of reproducible allergy to the vaccine and therefore investigations are not indicated. Future vaccinations can be given in a routine environment, with a 15-minute post vaccination observation period. If symptoms are persistent or there are additional concerns, then review by an immunisation specialist or allergist could be considered (end quote). See https://mvec.mcri.edu.au/references/covid-19-vaccines-and-allergy/ for more info.
Pookiki: pls see a physician/doctor!
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On 6/30/2021 at 6:30 AM, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:
8000 baht for 3 tests? that is a lot !!
Then maybe you should look at this list from skytrax. https://skytraxratings.com/the-varying-costs-of-a-pcr-test-at-airports-around-the-world Admittedly these are airport tests which may be more expensive than in city hospitals/clinics. Still most fall in the range of US$ 75-150/PCR-test, with some cheaper and some with outrageous prices, topped by Kansai (Osaka) at US$ 404!!
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The whole issue is rather senseless. The AZ vaccines are identical irrespective of where they were manufactured. The Indian Serum Institute and Siam Bioscience are not the only non-European factories licensed to produce it by the way. Apparently the problem is that the SI 'did not seek approval in the EU' whatever that means. There have been a lot of negative comments on the issue -even from within the EU- and some countries will likely accept AZ-vaccinated persons irrespective of the origin of the vaccine.https://www.scotsman.com/health/what-are-astrazeneca-batch-numbers-and-how-to-check-them-where-was-my-astrazeneca-vaccine-made-and-is-it-covishield-3294722. Refusing those vaccinated with the non-EU stuff looks like a typical irrelevant issue thought up by some EU-bureaucrats - or maybe it a swipe at the UK as they may assume that most of those vaccinated with the Indian AZ-batches originate there.
For those in Thailand wishing to visit Europe, apart from having had AZ from a non-approved source, another problem might be whether the Thai vaccine passport is accepted. Anyone with personal experience?
PS I had to make the font bold due to the horrible grey, waver-thin eye-straining font used on the new site.
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NHS draws up plan to provide booster shots from September. Only for certain categories. More info here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/30/nhs-draws-up-plans-to-roll-out-covid-booster-jabs-from-september
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16 minutes ago, grain said:
So where are all the locally produced AZ vaccines, the ones that were going to vaccinate all of Thailand and much of SEA?
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Stupid question maybe: suppose you re-enter on NON-O and re-entry permit with COE early July and and your extension expires October 1st so you buy sufficient insurance coverage (3 months) till this date. But then what happens on Oct. 1st? Do you have to buy coverage for one year then or is the requirement dropped?
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Chulaphorn Royal Academy and health providers allocated the vaccine will charge 888 B per dose of Sinopharm but this apparently does not include hospital fees etc. so total cost for two shots may well be around 2,500-3,000 B.
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20 hours ago, khunjeff said:
Correct. There have been numerous posts over the last several months claiming that the one year statement is now required even when using the 800k option,
I did NON-O extension end of April (800k bank method) and was not asked for a year statement or TM.30 (in fact they also never asked for the latter during the previous extensions). Do NOT provide all sorts of additional papers on your own accord , they mind find fault with some or make a habit of asking others to provide these too. I do have a copy of my rental agreement in my bag just in case but have never been asked for it. By the way, I have no idea what or where desk L-27 is, the lady at the reception (inside) told me to go straight to L-32 (this for on-line appointment).
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12 minutes ago, tethered goat said:
would you be so kind to mention if you are in the over 60s/medical conditions group and approx. how long ago you registered and with whom.Ithink it would help people who have no idea what is going on that the system is working in some way.Thank you
Can't speak for others, but I registered June 09th on the thailandintervac site for Phyathai 2 on June 22nd. I am 60+ but no underlying conditions. Got a confirmation e-mail around 6 pm on the 20th. Experience at Phyathai 2 was excellent. However, by a wild guess I do not think they vaccinate more than 400-500/day.
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I know several expats presently in Europe that follow this topic with great interest. The idea of spending two weeks in Phuket (not something I would consider under 'normal' circumstances) in relative freedom is still a lot more attractive than being locked up in a hotel room as a virtual prisoner for two weeks in an ASQ hotel. Even if you have to spend 300 Euro's or so for three PCR tests in Phuket. However, early schemes of the sandbox (from the beginning of this month) seemed to indicate that only tourists could partake. So the final scheme is eagerly awaited. Don't be surprised, however, if it changes again after a week or two.
If nobody knows what will happen in one week, making any predictions about October is useless.
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3 hours ago, Oxx said:
I'm now on the actual day of my appointment at Pyathai 2 and still no email confirmation or cancellation.
From what I could make out, the e-mail from OIC DDC to Phyathai 2 (or wherever) -which is cc-ed to you- is the actual confirmation. You could try to contact the OIC directly ([email protected]) or phone Phyathai 2 but I guess time is short for this. Still worth a try.
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1 hour ago, cclub75 said:
Disbelief ?
Well, those are the official data from the UK gvt...
PHE report June 18th 2021:
This is an impressive report, but doubt that more than 5 persons on this forum have actually read this since the popular subjects mainly seem to resolve around alcohol and bar girls.
Anyway, I think one should not just pick one table from the article but look at it overall. For instance, in Table 10 it says that that vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic disease from Alpha and Delta variants is 88 and 80%, respectively , whereas effectiveness against hospitalization is 92 and 94%, respectively (not statistically significant, Fig. 11). Also, case fatality in the Delta group is much lower than for the Alpha variant (Table 2), but I am not sure whether there is a time factor here.
It is a pity that there is no breakdown of vaccines, i.e. what were the numbers for AZ and BioNTech-Pfizer, respectively?
Finally, the ID rate is very impressive with 60 up to almost 90% of samples sequenced or genotyped (Fig. 1).
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Yes, the Delta variant is rather worrying. A few reports on this subject
1. A recent Nature article (22/06) with a general discussion of the Delta variant https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01696-3
2. In Israel (with almost 60% fully vaccinated, all with BioNTech-Pfizer) there has been a sharp uptick in infections and various restrictions may be imposed again
3. Some observations from the US:
4. A more moderate tone in this article from the BBC, mainly based on experience from India. It basically says that data -as for now- are insufficient to make definite conclusions: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57564560
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On 3/1/2021 at 9:52 AM, mtls2005 said:
So a third runway should/may help, but it looks quite close to 1L/19R so there will be limits on operation, I would think? DMK has a similar issue with the runways being too close to each other.
I think a fourth runway is planned as well, to the east of 1R/19L.
Suvanabhumi was planned as a four runway airport a la Los Angeles, with sets of closely spaced runways on either side of the terminal. The closely spaced runways will likely be used as in LAX, with one for landing and one for take off. If you look at Google maps (in satellite view), you can clearly see the outline of the third runway (at the western edge of the airport), it has been there for years. Indeed, the fourth runway (if this materializes) will be at the eastern edge of the airport.
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Just had my AZ vaccination at Phyathai 2. Took about 90 min, handled very well. Next appointment Sep. 14th. Only document required is your passport (if you have no underlying conditions) but bring the confirmation e-mail just in case..
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Experience at Phyathai 2.
Booked appointment for June 22nd (the earliest data available) 14.00 in the early days of the intervac website for the AZ vaccine. Got e-mail confirmation in the evening of the 20th. Arrived 13.15 (5 min walk from BTS Sanam Pao), was pointed to a waiting room where they were just starting to collect passports in batches of about 15. Was called ca 13.20, entered room where two persons were entering passport data in a computer. Got a que number (78), both as a slip in your passport and a label on your shirt . After a 10-15 min wait send to another lady behind a computer who printed out a sheet with some personal data as well as some data to be filled in by yourself (not suffering from,...., weight, length). Blood pressure measurement then another short wait and off to the actual jab that took place at 14.00. Two booths for Sinovac (but few interested) and two for AstraZeneca. Place your signature on the aforementioned sheet and off you go to the 'observation room' with nice chairs for a 30 min period in case you suffer a shock/severe reaction. At 14.30 was called, got a slip for the 2nd appointment (September 14th) and some warnings (I think the remark about no alcohol for a week almost caused a heart attack for some of the characters present). All handled very well, staff was very friendly (and good English).
I guess more than 80% of the customers were foreigners and many were definitely below 60.
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By the way, the plane in the picture is an A350 (easily recognizable by the 'raccoon' mask), not a B787.
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When in Europe I buy a LEBARA sim card. These are sold in many EU countries, you can get them from 'mobile shops' but they also often have small stands (look for the blue sign) at airports and major railway stations. I have used them in UK, Germany, Netherlands and Spain. When you top-up, they will double the amount (i.e. 10 Euro becomes 20 Euro), minimum top-up is usually 5 Euros. Calling Thailand is no problem, from the Netherlands the rate to a mobile number is 0.25 Euro/min or 0.15 Euro to a fixed number.
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Try the MedConsult clinic which is just north of Samitivej hospital. You can book online ( https://www.medconsultasia.com/) and if you book in the 8-10 am time slot, you will get results the same day between 8 and 9 pm. Lots of foreigners here. Note the remark on the website that cash is NOT accepted.
Disclaimer: I am not in any way connected to this outfit.