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1 hour ago, ozmeldo said:

It is my opinion that every person that has rec'd an extension based on that shonky letter consider themselves lucky.

 

Embassy no doubt saw too much fraud. Rather than bicker about it, they just shut it down. They can't discuss it bc that opens them up to abeiting in prior fraud. So it's done. Why can't you all just glom on to that cold fact?

 

Just an attestment. I would never give someone a year's visa based on their word and photocopies. US embassy will wake up too.

 

Move on... because you're going to have to anyway. 400/800 or another country. Up to you.

I have to agree 100%. Instead of moaning/bitching about how hard done by yous are just pull yer pants up and 'move on'. I'm sure there are many other ways to remain in Thailand, long term, without the embassy letter. Good luck.

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

 

...and stop 'winging' as well.

All farang whinge, it's in our nature. But in this case nothing is gonna be done. Just move on to plan B. There doesn't seem to be the same disgust regarding the BE stance on other forums. May be TV members get their knickers in a twist easily?

2 hours ago, Kalasin Jo said:

Not everyone can just rustle up 400k or 800 k baht and just keep it in the bank seasoning.

If you're in hospital requiring open heart surgery I'm sure you'd come up with the dosh? Sell the car. Sell the house. Get yer missus to get a loan. Do whatever it takes. Stop winging.

26 minutes ago, Expattaff1308 said:

Write to the Ambassador explaining the advice we are being given by the BE contradicts what we are being told by our Immigration Offices. and by doing so are putting us in jeopardy of being refused an extension of stay...

Do you really think that writing to him will make matters different? Do you not think that the BE have thought this through, knowing of the backlash it would cause? Nah, bitching to the ambassador ain't gonna make any difference. The decision has been made.

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

How do reach that nonsensical conclusion from a decision made by the British Foreign office?

I wasn't referring to the Foreign office I was referring to the way the Thais make us jump through hoops to remain here. I have 3 kids, do you think the Thai government gives a damn about them if I failed to come up with the requirement to stay here? Are there any appeal courts in Thailand to fight deportation? 

8 minutes ago, vogie said:

Can you provide a link please or is it just another conspiracy theory.

Conspiracy? How is that a 'conspiracy'?

3 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

There is nothing about foreign source...

They interpret the rules as they see fit. Take the 'Bank Letter' as an example. I believe the law says it must be obtained up to 7 days in advance.  My office makes us get it on the day of application. Are you or I going to tell them they are wrong?

When are farangs going to wake up. Thailand doesn't want us here. They want tourists who they believe spend more than long term residents. I know that to be not true but it's what they believe.

1 minute ago, blackhorse said:

There are not any new laws!

Yes there are. The ones made up by the officer you use. Every year they seem to interpret the rules differently to the year before. No 2 years ever seem to be the same.

1 hour ago, ozmeldo said:

All they care about is you have all your money seasoned and it's the correct amount.

No it isn't. As Peterw42 says below. I have the 800g's in a fixed term account. Allowed in the rules but they insist on seeing a ordinary account book showing transactions over the last 12 months as well.

1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

Some immigration offices will actually question you if appears you are not spending it, they presume you must be working.

7 minutes ago, VYCM said:

Thailand is so dynamic, you people come here and want, want, want then blame others for your stupidity.

 

Have said it a couple of times in this thread but everyone needs a 'plan B' in case 'plan A' goes tits up. As in this case. No 'plan B' then you deserve what is coming. Sorry

2 minutes ago, roath said:

what is wrong with immigration issuing a short statement clarifying what will be required going forward. 

I believe they have. It's 400 or 800 thousand in a Thai bank for minimum of 3 months. 2 months if first extension.

This new rule from the UK embassy isn't new. It was first published on 26 January 2014. So people have had almost 5 years to sort out their financial requirements. Always have a plan B.

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Published 26 January 2014 
Last updated 8 October 2018

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/notarial-and-documentary-services-guide-for-thailand

7 minutes ago, simoh1490 said:

The embassy letter reflects income, the bank letter reflects savings, there's a big difference.

That may be one interpretation but my immigration office wants to see movement within the account. They want to see your ordinary account bank book to confirm you just do not have required funds in a fixed account. 

10 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Not wrong. It is correct. Embassy letters are good for 6 months.

You misunderstood. It is wrong that a letter from an embassy lasts for 6 months whereas a letter from my bank lasts one day. That is wrong. 

1 minute ago, hyku1147 said:

It is called Nationalism.

And? You lost me.

2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Embassy letters are good for 6 months.

And that being the reason to change. I can't show monies in my bank account from 6 months ago. So why can you?

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Embassy income letters on the other hand can be as old as six months.

Totally wrong. And that I see as the reason for the change.    One rule for all.

4 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

There is an election in the offing ..

And? As if immigration laws play a part in any getting the populace to decide on how to vote.

Anyone who came to Thailand without a plan B deserves what they get. I'm sorry, but that's life. I show my bank letter of required monies on the day I get my extension. How long before an expat goes to his embassy for a confirmation letter does it have to be before he acquires his extension?  All being equal it should be the same day.   

4 hours ago, Jip99 said:

Ha Ha...... I can’t see Kuhn Arcade and his colleagues going without their bonuses...

I first met Khun Arcade when he was in the old immigration office just outside Kap Choeng in early 2006. He was a bit of a runt then but a nice guy, Very helpful. He's kinda changed since then. Not so helpful now and makes things up as he goes along. Must be down to the steroids he's obviously on?

2 hours ago, Blue bruce said:

I did my 1 year retirement extension in Buriram in April 2018. I brought all the necessary p/w incl. the TM7. The IO told me i did not need a TM 7 anymore because  everything is in the computer.

I was told last year that this year I didn't need a photograph for the TM7. The officer denied saying it and I had to produce a photograph. Lets see how you get on next April.

Hopefully this new rule about no tipping, or under the table payments, may sort these money grabbers out. 

Nice one.