Justfine

https://www.livestrong.com/article/17876-soy-protein-vs.-whey-protein/

Whey wins.

https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/145/9/1981/4585688

Yet more science on animal protein being superior.

Just man up and admit you were wrong.

"Sorry but I'm not impressed. "

You falsely claimed there was no science then respond with feelings.

Science says you're wrong but given you care more about feelings so be it.

10 hours ago, Justfine said:

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/vegetarians-study-lower-risk-death

 

 

"Researchers who tracked nearly a quarter million adults aged 45 and older in New South Wales found no significant differences in all-cause mortality, meaning the likelihood of dying, of any death, between those who followed a complete, semi- (meat once a week or less) or pesco- (fish permitted) vegetarian diet, and regular meat eaters."

Very large study here. 

"And, as a matter of fact, I do lift weights regularly, and have done so for over twenty years. "

Nice story bro.

7 hours ago, Kohsamida said:

Do you really consider those sources of information to be scientific bases for your notion that Vegans are weaker than meat-eaters?  C'mon, seriously, a "bro science" article, and a few off-the-cuff articles written by journalists (not scientists) in consumer magazines.  Sorry but I'm not impressed.  

 

And you are incorrect on both counts; I study health subjects in-depth; not just casually read magazine articles on the subject or get my "facts" from bros at the gym.  And, as a matter of fact, I do lift weights regularly, and have done so for over twenty years. 

 

And finally, an elite Vegan cyclist may be "skinny" but they can put out wattage (power) that is truly impressive by anyone's standard.  You don't need a bodybuilder's bulk to be strong.

 

I take health and fitness seriously, and so do a lot of other people participating in this thread.  If you have different views, express them if you like but please don't insult others just because their views differ from yours.  Would it hurt to show a little respect for other points of view? 

You are posting opinions not facts.

Bodybuilders are weaker than powerlifters and they eat meat and eggs.

6 hours ago, roo860 said:

 

Great that you were wrong!


Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

 

Happy to be wrong. Hollywood movie coming next.

Small exchange shops often match or better Superrich.

Sois near Hop Inn would suit.

"Bitter’s go-to sources of pure fat include coconut oil, coconut milk, clarified butter, olive oil and avocado oil. For fat and protein combos, he prefers grass-fed beef, chicken, liver, any kind of organ meat, salmon, rib-eye and eggs."

https://blog.mapmyrun.com/surprising-diet-trick-fastest-man-run-100-miles/

I agree with Cleese. I eat heaps of greens but cutting out meat is not logical.

1 hour ago, Paul944 said:

It no joke or threat, just the plain truth. Better not fall asleep near a Thai girl if you suspect she thinks or knows you have been cheating. 

 

I wonder if the doctors just keep what is left or just handle it as if he wanted to become a katoei. 

Racist nonsense.

I suspect they drowned on day 1. 

1 hour ago, Bonobojt said:

we did indeed eat meat when we were cavemen/hunter gatherer's, but they ate it for survival, and meat was an excellent source of calories back then, now its 2018, your not a Caveman anymore, you don't need meat to survive, we have supermarkets now.

 

as for health, I wouldn't say meat is poison, maybe factory farmed meat is, that is bad quality meat, sick animals is terrible conditions etc.. but if you wear to eat organic grass fed meat or hunt, then it would be a healthier better quality meat, but it still has saturated fat, cholesterol, trans fat, IGF 1 growth Hormones, so I wouldn't eat it everyday, maybe twice a week or something wouldn't hurt but I don't know.

 

no one is here to force you to be vegan, we are here to just discuss an interest of ours and to educate anyone who's interested in Plant Based Diets, if you enjoy meat then do as you wish. 

Grass fed beef is superior to grain fed. That's what I eat. There are issues with animal feed but there are issues with fruit and vege treatment as well. A lot of supermarket fruit n vege is second rate and anything but fresh.

I think it's important for people to do proper research and not just follow the latest cool trend promoted by "gurus", many of which are just profiting on the gullibility of people looking for super foods when there is no such thing.

"I know of no studies that support your notion"

That's because you did no research and have probably never lifted weights in your life.

"The most significant finding of the study was that muscle mass was strongly associated with animal-protein intake but not with the amount of protein taken in."

https://www.ironmanmagazine.com/muscle-vegetarians-vs-meat-eaters/

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/vegetarians-study-lower-risk-death

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why

Most give up the farce as well

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/food/a19984698/vegetarians-vs-meat-eaters/

It took all of 5 secs to find.

44 minutes ago, Kohsamida said:

With all due respect, isn't your comment a bit of a generalization, and perhaps an unfounded one at that?  Do you have any science to back up your statement?   

 

I know of no studies that support your notion, but I do know of a lot of studies that show definitive links between eating animal proteins and a whole host of metabolic and neurological diseases including many forms of cancer, Alzheimer's disease, and Parkinson's to name just a few.  Suffering from one of these conditions would not be a good definition of "strength".

 

And just how do you define "stronger"?  Here in Chiang Mai there are many Vegan athletes (triathletes and cyclists).  Many of the cyclist regularly go up Doi Suthep (over 18km) in around 30 minutes.  To my way of thinking that's a pretty good indication of "strength", and I can't imagine anyone considering someone that competes in triathlon as being weak.

Distance cyclists are skinny and weak.

3 hours ago, howbri said:

The entire world is focused on the football team and their coach, rightfully so, but daily slaughter of innocent lives far exceeds those missing in the caves. And it continues.

Cause the media is crap. All talk about finding kids in a cave which are most likely dead already.

Yet the road carnage continues daily.

The media is a disgrace.

2 hours ago, maximillian said:

 

But her next hubby will think twice before cheating on her.

Wrong. No man would go near here.

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Of course she should get serious time.. just the same as others who do bodily harm. I can't imagine how bad it will be for the poor guy. Even if he cheated cutting it off is too extreme, just leave him. Same goes for those guys that beat up wives if they think they cheat.. nobody owns anybody and violence is never good. 

 

Not sure how much time.. but something like this with so much impact on the poor guys life should be punished hard.

Cut off her boobs

200 lashes with whip

15 years jail

His life is ruined so ruin hers. Silly mole should have left him. 

1 hour ago, ravip said:

When, and if, this happens European tourists especially the younger brigade will simply go elsewhere.

The world's new Elite.

Inevitably,  one cannot 'rule' forever.  

 

Chinese/Indians/Muslims want to takeover.

Farangs need to form a resistance.

4 hours ago, Bonobojt said:

if any meat eaters are reading this topic and are curious about trying a plant based diet for health reasons or ethical reasons or both, highly recommend watching this video

 

 

 

Meat is 1 heathly and 2 tastes good.

Veganism is for lefties.