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They need to be sure and employ the same people who wrote the online TM30, online TM6, online 90-day reporting, etc. That will guarantee that the system will work perfectly from day 1.
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5 hours ago, jimgilly said:
I'm a bit confused on "a minimum of 200 baht and a maximum of $5 here". At 30 baht to the US dollar 200 baht is around $6.67 which I get but could you explain what the maximum of $5 is?
The commercial Bangkok Bank office in New York accepts a US $ amount from the retail USA bank branch where you have your USA account. It subtracts either US$5 or US$10 from that amount, as a sending fee, and moves the remaining money to Thailand. Bangkok Bank converts the US $ amount to a Thai baht amount (usually at a reasonable exchange rate, this month B30.11 to US$1), and subtracts 0.25% of that Thai baht amount as a receiving fee. But if the receiving fee is less than B200, they charge the minimum fee of B200. Similarly, if the calculated receiving fee is more than B500 (not US$5!!!), they only charge the B500 maximum receiving fee. The remaining Thai baht amount is deposited into your local Bangkok Bank savings account, and hopefully marked "FFT" for immigration. The total cost of the transfer depends on all these different numbers. The cost to send through Transferwise depends on a whole different set of numbers. And so on, for SWIFT transfers, for Western Union transfers, etc. To accurately compare methods, you must work out the exact calculation for each transfer method. The result can vary a lot, and the input numbers to this calculation can change over time. Pib regularly posts spreadsheet output with example calculations, and the "break point" amounts where one method becomes better than another. Search for items on this subject and look through his responses. For example, searching Google for "thaivisa forum pib compare money transfer costs" brings up, among others:
Bangkok Bank has 2 kinds of SMS alerts you can sign up for: local activity (too "noisy" for me), and all the numbers of a foreign transfer (this month, the SMS said "SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTR has transferred THB... ([email protected] minus THB200) from abroad into account number ...").
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8 hours ago, ubonjoe said:
That is not correct. Only Thais and those with permanent residency can be registered in a blue house book.
I am an American citizen on a non-O retirement extension of stay. I had been renting a condo from a Thai citizen. When I needed a TM30 his rental agent (also Thai) in the condo office provided the blue book and some other stuff that we took down to immigration, and then returned to the agent. But the Thaiowner has just sold the condo I live in to a German foreigner on a non-O retirement extension of stay. Will the new German owner have a yellow book or a blue book for the condo where I live? Can I get a yellow book now, and therefore a pink card? If the German owner has a yellow book already, can there then be 2 yellow books? Does it matter if he changes his non-O from retirement to marrriage with a Thai wife?
Alternatively, my best friend, who lives down the street, offered to list me in the blue book for his house. Would that be legitimate? Does not sound like it, from your response above. Could I get the yellow book preceding pink card that way?
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The only call sign I know of back home that is this short is KA9Q, Phil Karn. I learned Internet internals by reading his NOS code, on an IBM PC with an Ethernet adapter that must have been much better than sliced bread, because it was much bigger than a loaf thereof. ????
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XZ2A? Very short call sign. Did you get your license about the time deForest invented the triode vacuum tube? ????
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On 11/25/2019 at 6:57 PM, Speedo1968 said:
Thanks for the planet info.
Perhaps I cannot see it's earlier position in the sky but it doesn't seem to move towards the north west, it is moving down below south of the setting sun.
Have checked rough positions with a compass.If I am not seeing the ISS + it's companion what am I seeing ?
Yesterday, Sunday, the objects positions were the almost the same as Saturday.
Today, Monday, the positions have changed with the smaller object to the right ( 2metres ! ) and slightly below the bigger brighter object.
I have seen the larger object for 2 - 3 years now, in early Winter they are to the East South East and lower in the sky, passing overhead within a few hours.Really puzzled as to what they are.
NASA has 2 useful "Spot the Station" toys.
1) Sign up for official alerts from NASA of good ISS sighting times. At:
https://spotthestation.nasa.gov/signup.cfm
Drag the map background around to Thailand. Click on the box with 3 horizontal lines in the upper left corner of the map and select Thailand as the country, Bangkok as the city (closest to Khon Kaen). Click on the square with the left pointing arrow. Choose e-mail (best for Thailand) or SMS text alerts, enter the rest of the information, SUBMIT.2) Where is the ISS right now?
https://spotthestation.nasa.gov/tracking_map.cfmGet an app for your cellphone, if you have one. For Android:
https://www.space.com/32387-satellite-space-station-skywatching-mobile-apps.html
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runar.issdetector&hl=enUnfortunately, I have no Apple toys, so cannot advise about them. ????
Download and install Stellarium. 0.19.2 is the current Windows version.
https://stellarium.org/
https://github.com/Stellarium/stellarium/releases/download/v0.19.2/stellarium-0.19.2-win64.exe
Launch plain "Stellarium" from the start menu, unless you have an odd graphics card. May be slow starting, the first launch. Defaults to full screen mode, but you can play with the controls and browse the manual. Run the cursor against the left middle edge of the screen, and click on the "Location Window" icon. Scroll down to "Khon Kaen, Thailand" in the list, and click on it, it will stay set from then on. Move the cursor to the bottom center edge, and click on the rightmost icon to exit he program. The fifth icon on the bottom edge turns on "Azimuthal grid". Second icon on the left edge lets you set a particular date and time. Drag the mouse on the background, to change the view direction. In response #40 you say that on Sunday, November 24 about 18:00 you saw the object to the south of the sun, which was setting in the west. The first screenshot of the program is set to this: about 15 degrees up, on the 240 degree line, the column of grid squares after the "SW" direction mark, you can see Jupiter and Venus almost on top of each other. Saturn is just past 30 degrees up, along the 230 degree line. If I have interpreted your response #40 correctly, you are seeing 2 planets, not the ISS. Mystery solved and verified."Satellite hints" are turned on by default. The last line of ISS sightings in response #32 is for Wednesday, November 20 from 18:11 to 18:14. The bigger an item is shown on the screen, the brighter it is in the sky. In the second screenshot, notice the bright star Vega at 40 degrees up, 310 degrees over: this will help you locate the correct part of the sky, when you are outside on the lane. The fat white object at 20 degrees up, 280 degrees is the ISS. Sit and watch the screen until 18:14, and you will see the ISS move in real time to 20 degrees up, 335 degrees over, as in the third screenshot. Click on the ISS object, and all the information text appears: the ISS is magnitude -1.77, Vega is only magnitude 0 (it's a logarithmic scale, the smaller the number, the brighter the object). Right click on an object to hide all the text again. Venus is magnitude -3.86, Jupiter is magnitude -1.85 and Saturn is dim, only 0.59 in the Sunday screenshot. Sirius (the "soi dog" star, as it's called in Thailand) is the brightest stellar object, at -1.45 magnitude. The moon was -12.12 at that time.
18:00 Friday, December 6, as in response #53: in the last screenshot, again we see Venus and Jupiter, not the ISS.
Have fun!
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from the above Thaiwebsites reference in response #8:
China Europe Americas Oceania #2+#3+#4
tourist arrivals
by region (2017) 9,847,000 6,322,000 1,449,000 948,000 8,719,000
average length of
stay (days, 2017) 8.08 17.22 15.06 13.88
total expenditure
by region (million
us dollar), 2017 15,342.44 13,659.49 3,215.62 2,177.62 19,052.73Arrivals from China not that much more than from the three "western" regions.
"[All data as numbers provided by Department of Tourism, Thailand]"
"There may be more and more Chinese and Indian visitors, but still, Europeans, Australians and Americans spend at least 50 to 60% more per visitor, mainly because they stay longer."
"Data provided by , Ministry of Tourism and Sports, Thailand. In our experience you have to be able to peruse the data in the Thai language version, to get the latest updates."
by comparison, under arrivals in "Tourism in Thailand" @ Wikipedia:
to Oct 2019 2019/10*12 2018 2017 2019/10*12/2017
+ or - 4 to 39%
China 9,344,423 11,213,308 10,535,955 9,805,753 1.14India 1,633,179 1,959,815 1,596,772 1,411,942 1.39
Russia 1,077,389 1,292,867 1,472,949 1,346,219 0.96
U.S.A. 915,391 1,098,469 1,123,248 1,056,124 1.04
Australia 642,619 771,143 801,637 817,091 0.94The second numeric column prorates the 10 months of 2019 to 12 months.
The 2017 arrivals for China from Thaiwebsites and Wikipedia are close.
The 2017 arrivals for U.S.A. from Wikipedia are about 73% of the arrivals for Americas from Thaiwebsites. The 2017 arrivals for Australia from Wikipedia are about 86% of the arrivals from Oceania from Taiwebsites. The Europe/Americas/Oceania US$19,052.73m reduced by 27% of US$3,215.62m and reduced by 14% of US$2,177.62m gives an adjusted Europe/USA/Australia estimate of US$17,879.65m. Compare that with the US$15,342.44m Chinese total expenditure.
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This is the text of the reference to the MGR Online article, which is in Thai. It is close to the Thaiger news article of the original post, and appears to be the source that responses #56 et. al. are based on. Quoting the Thai is relevant because I am going to nitpick about its exact wording.
หนุ่มใหญ่ชาวอเมริกันทะเลาะพนักงานร้านอาหารหลังสื่อสารไม่เข้าใจ ล่าสุดโดนปรับทั้งคู่
:ศูนย์ข่าวภูเก็ต - โดนปรับทั้งคู่ หนุ่มใหญ่อเมริกันเข้าใช้บริการร้านอาหารซีฟูดหาดกะรน ไม่พอใจก่อนวิวาทกับพนักงานร้าน ตร.เข้าระงับเหตุ สุดท้ายถูกปรับทั้งคู่ พบแค่สื่อสารกันผิด
จากกรณีเพจเฟซบุ๊ก “เหยี่ยวข่าว ภูเก็ต Newshawk Phuket” ได้โพสต์คลิป ความยาวประมาณ 30 วินาที พร้อมข้อความระบุว่า #ที่กะรน เกิดอะไรขึ้น..... เหตุเกิดเมื่อวันที่ 2 ธันวาคม 2562 ช่วงเวลา 16.00 น. ที่เกิดเหตุบนถนนหน้าหาดกะรน จังหวัดภูเก็ต” โดยในคลิปดังกล่าวเป็นเหตุการณ์ชุลมุนของกลุ่มคนที่มีการทะเลาะวิวาทกัน ก่อนจะมีผู้เข้ามาแสดงความคิดเห็นเป็นจำนวนมากล่าสุด วันนี้ (4 ธ.ค.) พ.ต.อ.ประวิทย์ สุทธิเรืองอรุณ ผกก.สภ.กะรน เปิดเผยว่า จากกรณีมีการเผยแพร่วิดีโอในสื่อออนไลน์ดังกล่าว ได้สั่งการให้เจ้าหน้าที่รายงานข้อเท็จจริง ทราบว่า เมื่อเวลาประมาณ 16.30 น. วันที่ 2 ธ.ค.62 พ.ต.ต.เตชินท์ ดีทองอ่อน สว.(สอบสวน) สภ.กะรน ได้รับแจ้งเหตุทำร้ายร่างกาย เหตุเกิดบริเวณร้านอาหารซีฟูดแห่งหนึ่ง ถ.เลียบหาดกะรน ต.กะรน อ.เมืองภูเก็ต จึงเดินทางไปตรวจสอบ ที่เกิดเหตุพบคู่กรณีชาวต่างชาติ ทราบชื่อคือ Mr.connelly อายุ 44 ปี สัญชาติอเมริกา กับพนักงานร้านอาหารซีฟูดแห่งหนึ่ง 3 ราย ประกอบด้วย น.ส.ธีราพร ฐิตะยาภรณ์ อายุ 27 ปี นายอาวมิน เว้น อายุ 20 ปี สัญชาติพม่า และนายนาดี อายุ 21 ปี สัญชาติพม่า
จากการสอบสวนทราบว่า Mr.connelly ได้พูดจาสื่อสารกับพนักงานที่ร้านอาหารเกี่ยวกับเรื่องอาหาร แต่เกิดความเข้าใจผิดกันขึ้น ทำให้มีเหตุทะเลาะวิวาทปรากฏตามคลิปวิดีโอ เจ้าหน้าที่ได้ให้ทั้งสองฝ่ายได้พูดคุยปรับความเข้าใจในเหตุการณ์ที่เกิดขึ้น และรับสารภาพว่าได้สมัครใจทะเลาะวิวาททำร้ายกัน แต่บาดแผลไม่ถึงได้รับอันตรายแก่กายหรือจิตใจ จึงทำการเปรียบเทียบปรับคู่กรณีทั้งสองฝ่าย ในข้อหาทำร้ายร่างกายไม่ถึงได้รับอันตรายแก่กายหรือจิตใจ คนละ 500 บาท ตามคดีเปรียบเทียบปรับที่ 700-703/2562 โดยคู่กรณีทั้งสองฝ่ายไม่ติดใจทั้งแพ่งและทางอาญากันแต่อย่างใดThe title of this article is:
หนุ่มใ หญ่ ชาว อเมริกัน man big person American
ทะเลาะ quarrel [with]
พนักงาน ร้านอาหาร staff [of] restaurant
หลัง สื่อสาร after communicate
ไม่ เข้าใจ not understandThe article begins:
หนุ่มใ หญ่ อเมริกัน man big American
เข้าใช้ บริการ access service [of]
ร้านอาหาร ซีฟูด restaurant Seafood ("seafood" spelled in Thai letters? definitely not "talay")
หาด กะรน [at] beach Karonไม่ พอใจ [American] not pleased
ก่อน วิวาท before fight
กับ พนักงาน ร้าน with staff [of] storeThe article was updated on Wednesday, December 4 by The Manager. It specifically mentions 4 people by name:
Mr.connelly
อายุ 44 ปี age 44 year
สัญชาติ nationality
อเมริกา Americaน.ส. ธีราพร ฐิตะยาภรณ์ Ms. Teeraporn Thitayaporn
อายุ 27 ปี age 27 yearนาย อาวมิน Mr. Aomin
อายุ 20 ปี age 20 year
สัญชาติ nationality
พม่า Burmaนาย นาดี Mr. Nadee
อายุ 21 ปี age 21 year
สัญชาติ nationality
พม่า BurmaThe abbreviation "น.ส." (for "nang sow") is for the title of address of a Thai woman. "Teeraporn"? Does that sound like a Burmese name to you? The article explicitly describes the two men as Burmese. But Teeraporn needs no designation of Thai nationality, to a Thai reader of the article. The Thaiger article of the OP does the same. The Manager says that:
Mr.connelly
ได้พูดจา สื่อสาร spoke communicated
กับ พนักงาน with [the] staff
ที่ ร้านอาหาร at [the] restaurant
เกี่ยวกับเรื่ องอาหาร about foodThaiger renders this in English as "Connelly was having a conversation with the staff about food". The Manager says that they were fined:
คนละ 500 บาท each 500 baht
21 hours ago, Yinn said:The American start punching Burmese. The Burmese chase him go away.
But you complain about Thai people? Never stop.
No Thais in this story.
According to the newspapers, and I have specifically quoted above the text of The Manager, which seems to be her reference, there is at least 1 Thai in this episode, so this response is a lie.
20 hours ago, Yinn said:Please. Before mock, ctitisize, complain, moan and groan about Thai people do the google search about this story.
NO THAI. ALL FOREIGNER.
the american admit he start the fight.
The burmese then fight him back.
NO THAI PEOPLE IN THIS STORY!
UNDERSTAND.
Yes. Thai. Not all foreigner. At least 1 of the 4 named people is Thai. We don't know about the others in the "mob (at least 14 people) armed with sticks and what looks like boards". So this is another lie.
20 hours ago, Yinn said:No injury. Everyone pay small fine. Why not?
Westerners have a concept called "truth", another called "justice", another called "fairness". Westerners say things like "It's the principle of the thing". It is satirical criticism when Gordon Gekko (the lizard of a man) says "Greed is good". But not in Asia. People have been arguing for almost 10 pages at this point over the facts, over what really happened. Many discussions go on and on and on like that. But none of those things matter to a Thai like Yinn, she cannot "UNDERSTAND". Thailand is money and power and money and corruption and money and ... everything can be bought off with payments in brown envelopes, no matter what actually happened. So this one response is the most disturbing things in the whole discussion.
20 hours ago, Yinn said:Well, that's just a lie, according to the very article in The Manager quoted in this response.
16 hours ago, Yinn said:He the restaurant manager. He not fight.
The picture has the label "ยวข่าว ภเก็ต". It does not say anything about who the thug with the club is. How do you know it is the restaurant manager? Or is that just something else you made up because it fits your narrative? A foreigner cannot get a work permit to manage a restaurant, because it's a reserved occupation under Thai labor laws, so if it really is the restaurant manager, he has to be Thai. "Oh, officer, I'm not fighting, whenever I go out on the street I always run with a screaming mob, waiving a club -- and if you don't believe me I'll bash your <deleted> skull in with my club." Yeah, right.
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4 hours ago, Just Weird said:
Which bank is it that charges for replacement ATM cards?
An SCB ATM outside the Central Festival office ripped a strip of plastic out of my fairly new ATM card (old mag stripe card replaced with a chipped card). Their security guard said it had been doing that for days. They demanded B200 to replace it.
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I sent you a "private message" or "PM". At the upper right of your web page is a green bell icon and a green envelope icon. Do not post any personal data here on the discussion item, nor send it to anyone here on TVF.
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Clicking on the blue "ดูเพิ่มเติม" or "see more" text link takes you to
https://apps.apple.com/th/app/section38/id1451853492?l=th
which tells you about the app, but in Thai. Change "l=th" in the URL to "l=en" and you get the English language web page
https://apps.apple.com/th/app/section38/id1451853492?l=en
except the middle of the 3 reviews is still in Thai, probably because that user typed it in that way. If you did this on your cellphone rather than me on my laptop, it should offer installation to you. With the app installed, you could then make your own TM30 after traveling rather than bother your landlord. If your extension of stay requires 90 day reports, install the second app and you should be able to do that hassle online also.
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If you go to
https://www.apple.com/ios/app-store/
and put "section38" in the search box, it told me "0 results found" on the web page
https://www.apple.com/us/search/section38?src=globalnav
But if I change "/us/" in that URL to "/th/" I get the web page
https://www.apple.com/th/search/section38?src=globalnav
which has 2 search result icons on it, one for TM30 and the second row for 90 day report. I assume this corresponds to changing the settings on your iPhone from USA to Thailand. But then the web page is in Thai. ???? Google translate renders these as
Section38
Section38 is an application for notification of residence of aliens via mobile application ...
See more
and
IMM eService
Various service systems Of the immigration office that provides services for foreigners living in Thailand through mobile applications - ...
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You want to install this application:
<a http="https://apps.apple.com/th/app/section38/id1451853492?l=th">
Section38 บน App Store</a><br>
on your iPhone and then use it to file the report online (also note the "eTM6" app to do a TM6, and the "IMM eSERVICE" app to do a 90 day report, second line of icons from the bottom of this web page)? Rather than, say, opening Safari on your Mac desktop or cellphone and doing it from this web page?
<a http="https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/">
Login For FN Hotel</a><br>
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no luck on lazada or alibaba, but amazon may actually try shipping to thailand (despite the best efforts of thai customs)
the breville unit has four 4-inch cavities, claims 8 minute baking time, $130 used, $300 new
https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BPI640XL-Personal-Pie-Maker/dp/B004RF7QFQ#sp_detail_feedbackForm
also sold online from oz, nz and uk
makes fruit or meat pies
seven more pages of listings starting here, for 4 or 6 pies at at time, and regular 9-inch full size pies, from sunbeam, masterchef, wolfgang puck, emerille, quest
recipes and reviews https://www.minipiemaker.com/
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The green plastic Sprite bottle has a gray cap or a white cap, depending on if it is diet or sugar. Lazada has soft drinks in its grocery section of LazMall, and if your local Tesco doesn't stock it on the shelf you could try having it delivered.
https://shoponline.tescolotus.com/groceries/en-GB/products/6168116360
https://shoponline.tescolotus.com/groceries/en-GB/products/6017556686
https://www.lazada.co.th/products/500-24-i306308651-s532404440.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlistcategory.list.7.4fb876ccYjRTvK&search=1
The only convenience store in my (Phuket) neighborhood is a Family Mart, and I don't go there any more because a vicious soi dog now lives inside the store (and sleeps on the food shelves), but a few weeks ago they had the small bottles for about 18 baht, although they regularly ran out later in the day. I have bought cans of Schweppes ginger ale in 7-11s near where I used to live."Sprite No Sugar is the perfect drink for people who want same the great taste of Sprite but no sugar"
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28 minutes ago, wgdanson said:
Then why have a bread machine?
If you are not making a loaf: let the motor do the work of kneading, form the dough into small rolls or the base of a pizza, then bake. Also: if your machine has a timer, dump in the ingredients before you go to bed, set the timer, and be awakened by the scent of raisins and cinnamon filling the house, all ready to pig out on: immediate breakfast. No brain required. Bathrobe and bunny slippers suggested. ????
Guy: if the box your machine came in had a manual, and if the manual is in a language you can read, and if the machine has flat vertical mixing blades, the manual may tell you that you can easily and safely pop them out after the mixing cycle, if you are nearby and awake at that time. Then the bottom of the loaf should be flat after baking. If you do not care that the loaf has two slots underneath, don't bother to take the blades out. A recipe with a weak crumb texture may tear apart and be difficult to slice around the two bottom slots. Try lots of recipes, it's part of the fun.
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I got my first passport by turning in the paperwork at my local post office in USA in 2002. The Bangkok embassy used to do "outreach" sessions a couple times a year to Phuket and other Thai cities; in 2012 I applied for a new passport by turning in the forms (again including photograph) at a hotel in Patong, and got the new passport by registered mail. A couple years from now I will probably need to go to the embassy in Bangkok and be fingerprinted (and whatever else?). Question is, then what happens? How does the data get encrypted at two levels and then burned into a chip for my new passport? Would a digitized photo and fingerprints be sent to Washington, which would make an encrypted passport deep in some basement in Langley and ship it to Bangkok? If the Bangkok embassy had what's necessary to make a passport, wouldn't that be a great terrorist target: bust in, steal what Bangkok has, now all passports ever made in Bangkok, or maybe even all passports, are suspect.
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The foreign staff here repeatedly asked the university for Thai language lessons, all of which were a disaster. The second instructor they procured for lessons told us "Just ignore the tones, they don't matter at all" (hence the standing joke that the name of the main campus, "หาดใหญ่", means "Big Beach"). Another used the standard practice: teacher says a phrase, all 40 or 50 students repeat it in unison, so no one can hear if anyone is saying it correctly (most likely no one is saying it correctly, thus when the foreigner later tries to talk to a Thai nothing can be understood). I have seen English being "taught" this way in Thai elementary schools, and the poor English that you hear in Thailand does not surprise me at all. Yet, this instructor told us, "This is the way the Thai government says that all language must be taught, so it can't possibly be wrong".
If you have any kind of hearing impairment, even just old age, small differences in Thai sounds may be difficult or impossible for you to distinguish, let alone reproduce. There are electronic aids for this, but they tend to be overly technical.
Most Thai instruction seems to start off with stern warnings to NOT read and write. Sure, that's a huge task, but are you a two week tourist or a serious long term student? But while a handful of courses use something like IPA, the temptation to make up your own writing system appears to be irresistible. Thus a new student still needs to learn a writing system, which he then throws out and starts all over again with real Thai when he becomes "advanced" enough. Meanwhile, Thai dictionaries are useless to him, and he is "locked in" to learning only what is in his particular brand of textbook (Microsoft used to love locking people in to their software -- same, same in my opinion). Come on, even the Saturday Night Live parody of Rosetta Stone was able to use real, actual Thai script, like "ลูกปิงปอง" (ball ping pong).
So I would say, do not discount the efforts of the OP to learn Thai: a lot of other factors may have unnecessarily got in his way, and not been his fault. And he is apparently still here, and still wanting to learn, which I think is excellent. My opinion of the <deleted> immigration officer who hassled him is vastly lower: what a <deleted> ambassador for Thai culture, for the IO to dump on a friendly foreigner who likes and appreciates Thailand for an hour and a half.
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6 minutes ago, sillyfool said:
isn't it nid noi ?
The Thai is "นิดหน่อย ". n, short i over the n, d, consonant class changer (also called "h"), n, tone mark, o, y. BUT while there are many INITIAL consonant sounds in Thai, everything collapses to one of 7 TERMINAL sounds at the end of a syllable. So a terminal d always becomes a t. Hence "neet noy". (This is a westernized view of what happens; only 1 of my Thai students ever expressed it that way, and he had rich Thai-Chinese parents who sent him to a British-international school).
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38 minutes ago, glennb6 said:
hahahaha... when originally getting O-A visa in ussa a couple yrs ago I took the seemingly simple medical letter (printed off thai consulate website) to a number of clinics. It asked a) leprosy? b) elephantiasis? c) syphilus? d) TB?
Figured this would be simple and easy, like who has elephantiasis or leprosy in the states this century??? the clinics looked at the letter like I just flew in from Mars and wanted them to guarantee their life savings and first born with a signature that I was OK. 5 clinics in all, "oh no, we can't sign that! we don't have a test for leprosy..." Finally got a dr that I got it done with.
https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnews/recognizes-thailands-success-eradicating-elephantiasis-201147 "Bangkok – The World Health Organization has praised Thailand for its achievement in eliminating elephantiasis, a human disease caused by parasitic worms. On behalf of Thailand, Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha received a plaque of honor from WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus after the nation was declared an elephantiasis-free society."
As is well known, all foreigners ... oops, I mean space "aliens" ... in Thailand are infected with syphilis, elephantiasis, leprosy and so on, just like all crime is committed by aliens, never by Thai nationals. The assembled Thai doctors now all point in unison to the huge plastic wall chart, just like the Thai police do at a news conference.
Be sure and file your TM30 within 24 hours of when your space ship lands from Mars.
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19 hours ago, Sheryl said:
The SS system is solid. As long as your payments are uninterrupted you are secure. It is enshrined in law under the Social Security Act and millions of Thai employees come under it.
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8 hours ago, TerryLH said:I think the fee is still 432 baht per month.
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Be very careful because this is Thailand. Government regulations and the law are too often irrelevant compared to the whims and fantasies of pompous government officials, who in a normal country would enforce that law, especially IOs. In the province where I live, the person at the local Thai social security office insists that a foreigner cannot continue paying the monthly fee himself to maintain coverage unless he has a Thai wife and also owns a corporation with at least 3 million baht of capital, and that because she is a government official she cannot possibly be wrong about this (no, she refuses to even glance at the applicable law). TIT.
Your monthly payment is based on a percentage of your salary, capped at both the lower and upper end. If you are retired, you have no income, so you would pay B432 a month, the minimum cap. If you are working and earn at or above the maximum salary subject to social security tax, you would pay B750 per month, the percentage for the maximum cap (and your employer would also pay monthly another amount for you).
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500,000,000/80,000=6,250. By the figures in the article, on average, every single expat in Thailand stiffs a hospital for over 6,000 baht every single year. Every single expat, not one of whom they can collect from, despite TM28, TM30, TM6, multiple TM47 reports, ad nauseum. And no reporter at this press shindig waved their hand and said, "Yoooo-ooo, Minister Pitutecha, isn't this absolute proof that all the mindless immigration paperwork is useless and should be abolished?"
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I'm not familiar with the Windows 3.1 version of Oracle or MS SQL Server they must use at immigration, but it seems like someone with the proper access could create a temporary table with all the passports from the 90 day system, then create a second temporary table with the passports from the regular immigration system "EXCEPT WHERE" the passport appears in the first temporary table, then add the second temporary table to the 90 day system, and the problem would vanish, without even changing the program at all, and that this would only be a couple minutes of typing SQL commands. But it hasn't been done, so a bunch of people suffer needlessly. TIT.
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Even worse is that many SSA web pages say "Oh, just sign on to your myssa account" to do some task, and provide no other way to do it. And if you call the SSA help line, no one there can provide an alternative procedure, either.