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11 minutes ago, John1012 said:

Misleading the Queen? Prove it....Boris and his legal advisors are not stupid...until the exact wording of his request to HM can be analyzed, misleading is an inappropriate expression. The problem is that the UK has NO concrete written constitution, so our supreme court can have no fixed point of reference, and as they all seem to support remaining in the EUSSR then any judgment they offer will be affected by this attitude and their own interpretation of our so called constitution. Democracy is under threat in the UK, as is freedom of expression. I as a British citizen wish to governed by a parliament that I had a hand in electing ,under the existing 'first past the post' method of polling, I do not wish to lose my Nationality to a central bureaucratic unelected, unaccountable cabal of socialists and globalists, who will render our  Parliament/Monarchy redundant...a region of the EUSSR...soon to be come a Caliphate.

Why do you keep telling lies - to put it mildly - about the EU? Or don’t you really have a clue at all, and does your rant come from sheer ignorance?

35 minutes ago, Loiner said:

The EU have always said there is nothing more to negotiate. Their position appears to be that they are waiting for Boris to capitulate as Theresa did for them.
A change of surroundings is hardly likely to induce a Surrender.


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You can only negotiate if you know what you want. Just going on about what you don’t want doesn’t get you closer to a solution. But perhaps BJ does not really want one?

“I would caution you all not to think that this is going to be the moment,” Johnson told reporters on the plane to New York. “I don’t wish to elevate excessively the belief that there will be a New York breakthroug.”

I doubt whether anybody in his/her right mind would expect a breakthrough. He still hasn’t put forward a formal proposal in Brussels, so why would New York change anything?

15 hours ago, donnacha said:

Worth noting that the successful island nation of Japan would never consider ceding sovereignty to an undemocratic supra-national entity controlled by a major competitor.

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I have news for you: the UK has also never ceded sovereignty to an undemocratic supra-national entity controlled by a major competitor.

But never mind loosing the Japanese, in 3 - 4 years the UK will have a trade deal with New Zealand!

34 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Was obvious they were going to be awkward,just like they,beenfor the last 42 years.no deals better than a bad deal,these colours don,t run.

Exactly who is being awkward here? The UK has had over three years to come up with a concrete proposal for a deal, but never did it. You can’t blame your opponent at the negotiating table for having done some preparation and lay down a proposed text - but I’m sure you will.

BJ just don’t seem to seriously seek a deal - and will then blame the EU for the following crash......

‘Britain is not likely to present a complete set of detailed, written proposals of how it would want the text of the existing - but stalled - Brexit deal changed before the end of the month, UK and EU sources said.’

More than 3 years and the UK is still without a plan...........

3 hours ago, vogie said:

Protesters with amplifiers, does it make any sense to give a speech when it would not be heard over the mob, Bettel whose only intention was to try and humiliate Boris, but Boris was one step ahead of Bettel who was made to look like a jilted bride at the church alter.

Luxenbourg maybe doing ok, but the UKs economy is only second to Germany, whilst Luxenbourg is down at number 25.

As for your closing sentence: perhaps you might take a look at the World Bank’s Gross National Income (GNI) per capita figures. In 2018, in USD, the figure for the UK was 40,530, for Luxembourg 70,260. For GDP the difference is even bigger: 39,720 for the UK, 104,103 for Luxembourg.

14 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Cameron-Publicly humiliated while in office by an EU that thought they were bomb proof.

 

May- Publicly humiliated as above by an EU that knew full well she wasn't up to it. 

 

Johnson- Publicly humiliated, this time by a mickey mouse state with a population no bigger than an average London council when he was Mayor.

 

"that'll learn 'em!" ????

 

Can you imagine Gibraltar doing this in the other direction to the likes of Merkle or Makron, and why are the 44 consecutive weekend riots across France not being covered by MSM? 

 

Public humiliation, because of 75 protesters? Are you sure Boris is in the right profession? If you can’t stand the heat you have no business in the kitchen..............

By the way, this ‘mickey mouse’ state is doing extremely well, unlike the UK.

5 minutes ago, petermik said:

Give the EU (german republic to be) nowt Boris....walk away now...we the British public should be allowed to make our own decisions on the way OUR country is run...not by a bunch of fat salaried non elected cronies who have absolutely no interest of what is best for our still great country

You would prefer to have decisions made by your own non-elected cronies, like Cummings?

10 minutes ago, shaurene said:

I am ex UK lived in NZ for 30+yrs. NZ will do a deal with UK no problem. UK will buy our lamb, beef, cheese, roan pressed Posum, honey, wine & shell fish. And Australia, Canada, India, West Indies for Sugar etc. We do not need Europe, they need us.

Yeah, right.......... but what will you buy from the UK?

3 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

 

“Striking a free trade deal with New Zealand is a very important priority for the UK,” she said.

Doesn’t sound like she’s got the priorities right..........

3 hours ago, Joinaman said:

sounds a bit like staying in the EU does it not

Told lies from day one, told how good it was going to be for us all, while increasing cost, taking away our freedoms 

But hey, come back in 5 years time after the Lisbon Treaty is in full force and let is know how that works out for you

Yes massive, ( possibly but unlikely) disruption, for short period, then settles down with the UK able to decide how and what it wishes to do

More expensive, possible on some items, much cheaper on other too, so no problems there 

Fewer jobs, like the project fear kept telling us if we voted out, but like so many , have been proven to be lies  and totally wrong haven;t they ?

Please explain the upside to remaining as servants to the EU, with the loss of all our forces, laws, parliament, loss of jobs, increased payments, etc, etc,

Then give us the true downsides of leaving, but please, no opinions, just true facts and links to these facts

Would be very interested in knowing the true facts from a really intelligent remainer, rather than some idiots opinion

but still waiting for these since the referendum , so looks like i will never get them