Exploring Thailand

8 hours ago, tgeezer said:

For the sake of discussion I put Remind me to do it In Thai-language.com forum and got พรุ่งนี้เตือนให้ผมทำด้ยวนะ 

is there any difference between Remind me tomorrow to do it OK?  and Remind me to do it tomorrow OK?  

The translation given in T-L.com says that the task will be done tomorrow. 

I'd say Remind me tomorrow to do it clearly specifies when I want to you to remind me, whereas Remind me to do it tomorrow is ambiguous.

Here are some more examples, taken from longdo.com. There seems to quite a bit of flexibility in the use of ให้ with เตือน. I'm wondering if in เตือนให้ผม it feels more like the emphasis is on the act of reminding whereas in เตือนผมให้... it is more on the action to be performed.

15 hours ago, tgeezer said:

Does this come from an app? I see that it is used to show which construction is more common but where does it get the information?  

They're just screen shots Google search results. Putting quotes around a word or expression tells Google to search for exactly that phrase. So, if it is working as advertised, the Google index of the entire internet has 16,100 occurrences of the first search term and just 6 of the second one. I put the red numbers on myself to marry up with thailandgreat's post.

10 hours ago, thailandsgreat said:

The numbers I get seem very high, it could have treated the words individually and not as a sentence (to reduce processing time?). But I have this from an app:

dtʉʉan pom hai ...

So I was curious about the function of hai. It seems to come both before and after the person being reminded.

Hai has a lot of uses. Hai <someone><do something> means to get or allow someone to do something.  <do something> hai <someone> means do something for someone. 

6 hours ago, Raphael54 said:

In pre-announcements it was always and everywhere confirmed that foreign health insurance policies would be acceptable as long as they met the minimum requirements of 400,000 THB (in-patient) and 40,000 THB (out-patient). 

Could you share which pre-announcements you're referring to? Do you have any links? Cheers.

9 hours ago, thailandsgreat said:

I also get stuck in the browser. A couple of weeks ago the TV-app worked but I can't log in with it any more.

 

Does it depend on what we are reminded to do?

 

 

 

It took a while before I found out I must set "desktop mode" to see # hits in Google from the phone.

 

Edit

Using quotes

(Guess: Google does not take the quotes into account for a longer search term??)

I tried it on my phone. The first time Google offered to set a reminder! It's getting too clever. The second time it returned no hits. I don't know why there it is behaving differently for you and me. I didn't set Desktop-mode. I just typed it in.

Looks like dtʉʉan hai pom tam is the way to go.

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Ignore the picture below. It's a duplicate, but the system won't let me delete it.

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Meanwhile, the Thais certainly do love their "One Stop Service Centers."  First I've ever heard of such a thing existing, if it actually does, re the O-A insurance issue.

I think think it's probably a reference to the TGIA website.

4 minutes ago, brianj1964 said:

Having just arrived last week I have best part of 12 months to see how it plays out, got a 12 month stamp so I'm happy...at the moment

I'm in the same situation. I was stamped in for a year on the 30th. 

5 hours ago, brianj1964 said:

So is clarification now issued before 31/10 no insurance, issued after 31/10 yes insurance? And ALL extensions yes insurance?

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

No

Just to clairfy, @ubonjoe, what is your opinion on whether these people will need insurance for an extension based on retirement?

1. Person A has a current OA issued before 31st October, but has never extended.

2. Person B has at least one retirement extension based on an OA issued at some point in the past.

Thanks.

Just now, Jingthing said:

Yes but we can say that about any "experts" in earlier stages of major changes here!

True. I give him about the same credence as I do the more knowledgeable posters on this board - worth listening to but not infallible ????

11 minutes ago, zydeco said:

Yea, and a few weeks back, the same guy in his videos was saying that every type of extension would need insurance. He's all over the map. Maybe it's unfair, but looking at him and his presentation does not fill me with confidence. 

Yes. I listen to him, this stuff is his job, after all. For laws that haven't changed for years, he is probably a good source, but when something new and untested like this comes along, he can do nothing more than offer his best guess.

5 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

Do you really believe that he's a lawyer with a degree working on a thai visa website? 

He says that he's managing director of Integrity Legal law firm. I believe that. I guess it would be possible to look up his credentials, if anyone doubted them.

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He was largely correct about an important part of this. Don't shoot the messenger. 

Well, he started his previous video by saying that his analysis had been wrong. Also, it has to be said that, for a lawyer, his language is not the most precise. Lots of people, including myself, have talked to embassies and consulates abroad, and we've received widely differing advice. If he has access to people higher up the hierarchy than we do, then I'd agree that his opinion has more weight. If he's just making the same phone calls as everyone else, then his opinion is just one among many.

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I think you are very mistaken about what he thinks. Yes he now thinks those on O based extensions won't need insurance. But he does think those on OA based extensions including existing ones will need the insurance. 

You could be right. At 2:34 he does say "not strictly speaking OA", but what he says after that does seem muddy the waters a bit.

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Obviously he's not in touch with the various Immigration offices that, rightly or wrongly, are giving exactly the opposite guidance to people with prior O-As on current extensions of stay when they go to renew those now.

 

Have to agree that I'm skeptical. On one hand, it would make sense, as Momofarang says, but I don't see how that guy would be able to get a definitive answer about the intentions of the Thai authorities when no one else has been able to. Sounds like just one more opinion -- could be right, could be wrong.

Got there in the end!

Actually, thinking about it, I think thailandsgreat's interpretation is more likely to be correct.  When ได้ functions as an achievement particle, it comes before the clause it is referring to, not after it, so in this sentence ได้ would refer to สามวัน. I'm going to ask a Thai!

30 minutes ago, thailandsgreat said:

I thought the duration of the honeymoon was not stated?

I think you're right. Per the article I linked earlier, ได้ can be thought of as an "achievement particle", so I'd say (แต่งงาน)ได้ refers to the completion of the act of getting married. The translation could be as in your initial post, or "We went on our honeymoon three days after getting married.". 

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I think it's pretty safe to assume that only Thai insurance companies are going to end up being listed as O-A certified on the TGIA website.

Yeah, I think you could well be right, but I don't see what is the legal basis for excluding foreign companies. It would be very interesting to know the process and criteria for being listed on the TGIA site. Who decides which companies appear on it, and how do they decide?

Representation of tense in Thai is difficult to get your head around, in fact it is often said that Thai doesn't have tenses. It's certainly true that there is no one-to-one correspondence between English tenses and a Thai equivalent. This article is a good overview of the subject.