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I tried it with my left eye closed. Makes very little difference.

It doesn''t bother me at all. I can move my eyes and my brain can remember where the list is without much difficulty. Can't understand why I have got NO ADVERTS this morning.

Do you mean that YOUR opinion has been statistically proven, or what are you on about?

I stopped reading right there.

Yep, she certainly likes a Cockatoo, sadly, not mine........YET! 555

You can certainly get the two components individually here, at almost any pharmacy.

To which God do you keep referring, the alleged Father of the person after whom you name your religion, or another please?

Reading the figures on these labels, the old Mitsu is predicted to take less per year, 9317, than the new TCL at 9634. Figure that out.

Correct, even though the L/R button is still on the remote and beeps when pressed. Easier to move my chair!

I have a digital thermometer showing indoor and 'another' temperature via a probe on a wire ie. outside. Even with the outside probe sitting right next to the indoor unit I get different readings, about 1C different. 555

The air coming out of the Mitsu is 17C, the TLC manual says 18C, so roughly the same. OK, I see what you mean about the compressor outside being hotter, but is the refrigerant returning to the compressor at the same temperature it left the inside exchanger?

Not on my model. Only up & down.

Thanks for that. It seems it is just a VERY slow speed fan, but is OK for my personal use. Shame it doesn't say that in the manual, or does it? Shall have another butcher's.

Where is the SILENT setting please. Or maybe my cheapo model does not have.

TCL = NoName device? Which also takes a short time to start the cold air after switch on. Unfortunatley my fins only move up & down, not left & right as well. Ah well, you get what you pay for!

It says consumption PER YEAR. Yours being 18k BTH says 15054, mine being 12k says 9634. For me that is 803 units per month or 27 per day. That means over 1 kW per hour, 24 hours a day. Summat ain't quite right in their maths.

I find No. 5, electricity cost per year to be rather silly. Surely it depends on how long and often you use it, and how much you pay per unit of lekky.

Yours does not show any star rating, mine has a green colour on No. 5/1. Mitsu shows 5/5. SEER is 18.7 so that's good, so I read.

If a fan is turning and blowing air, there is no way it can be SILENT, very quiet yes, but not silent. My Mitsu's noise has never bothered me in the bedroom, as has the Mrs' snoring. Neither the a/c or the Mrs have ever iced up. I get them cleaned every 6 months.

Both TLC and old Mitsu are about the same quietness. I put the TLC on for over an hour, it's only just been fitted, and yes, it started at 1500 watts and is now down to 750 ish. The Mitsu stays at 1000. So over a year, it will make quite a difference. I thank you, and Chicken Legs and others who replied with your valuable knowledge, and yes, I shall buy another TLC on offer at Lazada at 20.01pm tonight. I have all the necessary vouchers in my account, so 7250 it is. Great. Is 3000 for fitting a rip-off? The holes are already in the walls. The bracket is there for the outside unit. For Schoogibueb, yes the compressors are fairly well shaded from the afternoon sun.

That's what I though, hence posting them.

So ONE SECOND at 3 or 5 kW every 30 minutes or so, will not drastically increase my power consumption, no?

I look at my power metre on my phone, and do not see a great boost in use on restarts. I do the tests on the air cons individually so I know how much each has taken during the same length of time. The TCL seems to be taking 1500 watts whereas the Mitsu is around 1000. But as I said in my previous post, I shall try over an hour instead of 20 minutes. I do not use my a/cs overnight, bedroom 7 to 10 pm @ 28C, lounge about 4 hours each afternoon also at 28@.

My test is EXACTLY comparing like with like, two aircons in the same room at more or less the same time, so room temperature is similar. The outside temperature is irrelevant as I explained. OK, the Mitsu has R31 and the TLC has R32 refrigerant. EER and SEER ratings mean nothing to me if I have proved that the electricity consumption is greater for one than the other. That's really what matters. I shall repeat my tests over an hour as opposed to 20 minutes and see the difference then. Thanks for replying.

Good morning experts. I have two 12 year old Mitsu 12000 Mr Slim, on/off air cons in my 36 sq mtr lounge, 3 metres apart on the outside wall. Last month I bought a TLC Inverter 12000 from Lazada as it was a very good price, Bht 7500, including delivery. My local man came on Sunday and charged me Bht 3000 to remove one of the old ones and fit the TLC. I decided to compare the efficiency/power usage between the two. I have a ‘smart’ thingy in my fuse box (CU) which sends the electricity consumption to my phone. I turned everything off on the breakers and tested each air con individually setting each at 28C, normal cooling for 20 minutes and recorded the number of units used. Then I did it with the Economy button pressed. Here are my results. TCL. Normal = 0.50 units, Eco = 0.35, which equates to 1.5 and 1.0 per hour. Mitsu. Normal = 0.34 units, Eco = 0.28 per hour, 1.0 and 0.72 per hour. So the old one seems to use less electricity than the new TLC over the period of one hour. WHY? Also, I wonder exactly how the units work. I know from testing myself that they both pump out cool air at 17-18C. They drawn in air from the room into the top, through the exchanger and back out into the room, until the temperature sensor measures that the air going in is at the temperature you have set on the remote. Then it turns off, or slows down, until that rises, then it turns back on. If you want the room to be cooler, it simply takes longer for the cool air to mix with the room’s air until the desired temperature is reached. The outside temperature is irrelevant, only that the room can get hotter if insulation, windows, curtains etc are not considered and allow the room to heat up. Can someone explain IN SIMPLE TERMS, no scientific formulae please? Thank you. I am considering another TLC as they are on offer on Lazada tonight, 10/10. But if the difference in the cost of running the old one is the same or less than the TLC, which will cost me about Bht 11k including fitting, what will be my return on cost per year? OK, a warranty on the TLC, one year on the TLC card, 5 years on Lazada????