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11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It was rejected due to you not being in the widow for doing the report since you had already done the report.

The rejection will not affect doing another report on either system. You local office end of either system is still the same as far as I know.

Thanks @ubonjoeas always. I will not waste time going to immigration then.

8 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

I can't answer your question about the systems. But the new reporting date you've got there goes way beyond 90 days.

Oh sorry. You have a very keen eye. Yeah, that was my permitted of Stay (visa expired). New reporting date is this.

My next reporting date is 06 Dec 2021.

I submitted report online in the old system (as I always do) on 28 Nov 2021. Got approved with the new reporting date set to 04 Mar 2022.

I learned about the new TM47 reporting website. I submitted another report on 05/12/2021 13:59:15 - 1 day before 06 Dec 2021 expiration and it's Sunday. Long wait. Today (18 Dec), I received an email "Your application for "STAYING LONGER THAN 90 DAYS" has been rejected". No reason specified.

Is this a cause of concern considering that I got my approval in the old system? Do you think I will have a problem in my next reporting if I did not go to immigration office and fix my issue in the new system? What could be my issue in the new system?

Since I started this post, I'll also share my own experience. They called us a day before the visit (maybe around 4PM) to tell us they will come 1:30PM the next day and to print another set of pictures with my 2 kids in front of the house and inside. Also to print the house book and ID's of the 2 witnesses. We've also told to prepare a table for their laptop and printer. I guess around 1:20PM they already inside the compound since the gate is open. The car is very quiet and we didn't hear them coming. As everyone have said, they didn't ask me directly much. More on the witnesses like how long they have known me. My confusion is that if I understood, they also ask the witness about their family income. Seems not in anyway related to me.

We just received another call today that they asked more documents such as my Father in law house book and id, house book of my 2 kids. It's fine but the only hassle is that, they didn't asked for these when we go to immigration office 2 times before, or when officer visit the house. Now I need to go back again to immigration office. 

But so far the visit is fine, we prepared them some snacks. They took more pictures with us, and standing with them in front of the house and beside the police car. They said normally its only on first visit. 

On 3/13/2021 at 2:37 PM, Gahn5 said:

Two Officers arrived at our place the day after my application was submitted and were very polite. 

We offered them cool drinks, which they accepted, they took out a printer from their car to use to copy the Id cards of the two witnesses who are our neighbours (and not related) and asked them various questions; how long had their known me and the wife, what's he like, is he good with the villagers and kids, how many live in the house etc.

Talk was mainly Thai or Khmer, some English, stayed for about an hour looking around downstairs but didn't go upstairs.

Basically, could the witnesses attest to the farangs character? Our village is very close-knit with the other neighbours being aunts or cousins or in laws; even had the village mayor sitting outside, and they only had a short chat with him.

All in all, no problem as the purpose of these visits is so they know there's no dodgy scam marriages going on.

That was fast! Did they call you before they arrive?

Hello, I just submitted my application for extension of stay (marriage) yesterday. IO told us to wait for a call within 1-2 weeks for a house visit. Two witnesses should not be a relative. As this is our first time, what can I expect in this process? I also have these few questions if you know the answers:

• Witnesses should not be a relative. Does it mean we could not bring the cousins of my wife? They're not living in the same house or compound.
• Will they knock the neighbors? There's one neighbor (adjacent), a relative of my wife who is not in good terms with the family. ???? 
• What they usually do when they visited, do they inspect the full house?
• What are the usual questions?
• Any other tips for me?

And also, I'm confused with the timing. My passport has only until April 12 for my valid stay. IO stamp another 1 month because, so now it becomes May 11. IO said I will go back May 11 for receive extension if approved. That's 2 months from now. Is it really that long? 

Thanks.

If I still remember correctly, you do not need yet the ASQ and confirmed flight to get COE pre-approval. But you need the COVID insurance that will cover your stay. Then once pre-approved, you will have 15 days to complete the rest of requirements, e.g. ASQ, confirmed flight.

1 minute ago, sherwood said:

Not black and white, colour is required at my IO (Korat). Outside the house with house number on 1 page then 2 photos on the second page, worked for me.

I see. Okay. I'll just print coloured.

4 minutes ago, sherwood said:

Kor ror 2 no longer than a couple of days old and bank letter on the day, just saves you a problem in the long run.

I use fresh PP photos each year, 4x6 cm with a blue background, shirt should have a collar and not light in colour.

Best of luck.

Thanks @sherwood we got a new Kor ror 2 in the amphur, immigration said it must be 30 days old. How about the photos with wife outside/inside the house, would they accept black/white print? I missed to ask these questions when I visit the immig.

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

You put 365 days.

 

The 2 X 2 photos will be accepted.

Very helpful! Thank you.

13 minutes ago, steve187 said:

'' stay with Thai wife'' 

 

i just hope you work out the more complicated requirements, photo's, witness, bank balance letter etc etc

Yeah, starting to compile it all now. Already got photos few days ago. Witness my in-law and wife cousin. Bank balance will get it 2 days before my submission. My local immigration said bank letter is valid for 7 days.

Thanks @steve187and @ubonjoe. Makes sense to put specifically "Thai Wife".

How about the number of days? Do you put 360 days?

Also, this 4x6cm picture? Do they strictly require this size?. I have existing 2x2 inches if I can just use it the better. No prob if I need to take a new one.

Hi, this maybe trivial but I just want to make sure I'll put the reason for applying extension of stay is acceptable. I was thinking just writing something like to "stay with family" is very lame so I would like to ask you folks what reason you are writing here if you are applying for extension based on marriage (I have two Thai kids). Also do you actually put 360 days period? Here's the snap of that part of the application form.

Cheers 

Just now, DrJack54 said:

Just use in-laws address. The home visit for the under consideration period would be scheduled. As its your in-laws place they could even be your witnesses

Thanks @DrJack54! Will take this route.

1 minute ago, jackdd said:

I mean a copy of the house book from the place where you are staying.

Ah thanks for clarification. So this is still the apartment owner house book. The owner is a bit snobbish ????

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Ok. Sounds like you might also do an annual extension at some point. You need to file TM30 so you have an address that can be used for your extension. 

Normally would not suggest this however you could visit your imm office and ask their advice as to what would get you over the line.

Exactly! We have a place in my in-laws and we're staying there last year. We can use her parents address and her mother will be the one make the reporting as she is the owner of the house. But what I understand, when I do the extension a visit from immigration officer will be at the TM30 reported address correct? Is this a surprise visit or scheduled one? Because we can be at my in-laws during the visit. As I've said, we have a place there and we still have some of our personal things there.

Sorry, my post deviates to another topic.

Just now, DrJack54 said:

How long do you intend to stay in Thailand?

Would probably more than a year. We starting to build a house and need to be here to see the progress.

1 minute ago, jackdd said:

Yes, your wife can do the reporting because she is the possessor. But immigration might want to see a copy of the house book as well as a copy of the owner's ID card.

Thanks for quick response! Ok, we'll also prepare her house book. But unfortunately, my wife said just now. There's actually no rent contract. We're in the province of Nan and she said it's normal here apartment no signed contract. You can leave anytime, they just ask for 2 months deposit.

So it seems like I can't avoid chasing the apartment owner. ????

Hello,

Instead of us living in the house of my in-laws, my Thai wife rent an apartment for us. She signed the contract since it was done while I'm still outside of Thailand. 1st question, is she become the house master?

I just arrived and as you all know someone must do TM30 report for my stay. 2nd question, can my wife do the TM30 report instead of the owner of the apartment?

If my wife can do the TM30 report, does she need anything from the owner aside from the rent contract? Or her National ID and rent contract are sufficient?

The owner seems very busy and barely answering messages so we want to do the reporting ourselves if we can. We plan to do online reporting here https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/FilterNoLogonServlet?nodeId=24&programId=FNHOTELREG

Thanks

3 hours ago, superal said:

but what happens when you re enter after your 90 day stay / border run , your going to have new covid insurance again ? which will have to  cover you every time you re enter Thailand , so all in all 1 years covid insurance  ?

If you do border run I think yes you need another insurance. But in my case I will apply for 1 year extension or 60 days extension if I still need to stay in Thailand. I will not do border run.

3 hours ago, paddyfield7 said:

I agree that the definition *Insurance must cover the whole duration of stay in Thailand* is unclear, in particular for those re-entering on an annual extension of stay. I just asked the Royal Thai Embassy in Switzerland about that, and they replied two days ago

 

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- We recommend that your insurance for COVID-19 should be at least for 3 months from your departure date from Switzerland.

 

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Also just to make sure, I emailed Thai embassy. Here's their response ????. Not concise compared to your embassy, but I'm already fine with it. Will buy 90 days coverage.

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For the health insurance coverage it should be at least 3 months or the length of your stay in Thailand. 

2 minutes ago, Salerno said:

 

As far as I'm aware there isn't a multiple entry spouse visa so I'm still not sure what visa you where issued. All visa's have an "enter by" date and other than the multi entry tourist visa (9 months) they are valid for 3 months from issue.

 

While in Thailand you convert the Non-O to a "marriage visa" i.e. extension to stay based on marriage which gives you the 12 months without having to do border runs.

Yeah, that's what I'm going to do next. I'll apply for extension 1 month before my non-o visa expire. I can promise you though I have Non-O multiple entry ????

But the very helpful answer I got here is that I just learned that I can only stay max 90 days even if I have 1-yr multiple entry visa. Going back to my question, that means I should get a 90 days coverage of Covid-19 Insurance which could lower my cost to 12K THB.

16 minutes ago, Salerno said:

 

Not as I understand it or am I mistaking the type of visa:

 

 

http://www.thaiconsulatemelbourne.com/visa-information

Yeah, it didn't show from the picture if multiple entry on SPOUSE. If Single entry, then it's right that will only be valid 3 months from the date of issue.

3 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

When the borders are still closed when your 90-day permission to stay almost expires, you can of course apply for the 1-year extension of stay based on your Non Imm O Visa at your local IO.

However, you would need to provide evidence of +800K seasoned for at least 2 months on your personal Thai bank-account at the moment of application when applying for the 1-year extension for reason of retirement (you only need +400K when applying for reason of marriage).

The above means you do not have much time (approx 1 week) to open such a personal Thai bank-account after you come out of quarantaine and ensure that the required funds are transferred to that account at least two months before the moment of application for the 1-year extension.  Although you can apply till last day of your permission to stay, it is best to do it a couple of days earlier in case the documentation for your application is not complete.

Okay, I think I can do that. I'm aware of struggles of first-timers applicants of extension based on marriage but I think I can do it. I have enough savings in my Thai bank account seasoned for more than a year already. I've been working in Thailand in 2017 - December 2019 and my bank account still active and I keep sending money there for family support.

I just realized now that I was wrong getting a 1 year multiple entry visa, where in fact I can only stay 90days at a time. I thought that could be use for a full year without needing to exit.

6 minutes ago, Salerno said:

 

Just to clarify, what exactly do you mean by never been used e.g. you had a visa issued in your home country but never travelled or you left Thailand and have a reentry permit?

Yes, that's correct. When I got my visa in March 2020, the Travel ban started so I wasn't able to fly to Thailand. It's a brand new visa. I'm using Non-B in the past. I left Thailand in Dec 2019.