RayC

Not sure where it leaves Tesla, but the AfD won't be part of the German government unless the other parties change their stance towards it.

Have you no pity? This thread is bad enough without having Genesis inflicted upon us😧

The cost of membership is insignificant when compared to the cost of leaving to UK companies and the wider UK economy, and the ability of the UK to be heard on the world stage.

Whatever the rights or wrongs of Trump's position, the fact remains that the funds given to Ukraine by the EU are not all in the form of loans as you wrote: Indeed, 2/3rds of the money is non-repayable.

We voted to leave. I thought it foolhardy but fully supported the decision to implement that decision. However, 9 years on from the vote and 5 since we formally left the EU, it's clear that the Brexit implemented by Johnson is not in the countries' best interests, so any sensible politician would take steps to rectify the situation.

Which is completely different to implying that the markets are unimportant ("Who cares about the markets").

Yes, the economic benefits of Brexit are plain for all to see. Only a fool would seek to reverse them🤦

Yes, I know what a concessional loan is but, unfortunately, you apparently don't know what grants or in-kind support are. You stated that " ... EVERYTHING (my caps) the EU has done has not been given as with the US but as a loan". That is untrue.

Economists and most governments, although apparently not the President of the USA.

Simply not true: "Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $155 billion in financial, military, humanitarian, and refugee assistance, of which 65% have been provided as grants or in-kind support and 35% in the form of highly concessional loans" (Source: https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/united-states-america/eu-assistance-ukraine-us-dollars_en?s=253)

Not at all. Just providing some realism rather than hyperbole.

Really? Starmer might describe himself as a socialist but, apart from the bailing out and likely renationalisation of British Steel, I haven't seen many economic policies enacted by this government which could be described as 'socialist'. An "Ultra authoritarian state with zero freedom of speech": If you were in the UK, you would be perfectly entitled to make your views known and I doubt very much that you would be told to be silent. Unlike China, the Labour government does not operate a system of state capitalism; the UK is very much a market driven economy. When it comes to dissent, unlike China there is no risk of you - or anyone else for that matter - being lifted off the street and taken away for re-education. Does the UK have a " ... huge, overbearing government just like China" as you claim? I'd say the evidence suggests otherwise.

Given that the next GE is unlikely to be held before 2028 at the earliest, this poll is imo completely irrelevant. A survey into voting intentions at the forthcoming local elections would have more relevance.

As I said previously, I was simply pointing out the irony of the situation. What's your point?

" .. a new survey suggests that Nigel Farage’s Reform UK could become the largest party in a hung parliament if a general election were held today." Speculation about an imaginary event. Rightio.