Tropposurfer

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Off on another conspiracy Jonny?!

 

 

Yeah ... what a total crock of sh!te.

Conveniently can't recognise the Trump appointed judges across the country that have thrown Traitor Trumps bogus litigations out of court dozens of times, and in specific regard to J6 conspiracy/sedition,  and massive serialised lifelong Rico statute fraud matters.

5 hours ago, seajae said:

the steele dossier has been shown to be pure fabrication paid for by the democrats looking to get dirt on trump, nothing in it ever turned out to be correct and was all made up BS. Sueing the ones that fabricated it and/or  promoted it is to be expected, doesnt matter which side of politics you support using falsified documents  is not ok and the ones that did it need to be taken to the cleaners, the only ones that cant agree with this are those that are too rusted on with their hatred for the truth when it doesnt support their own parties narratives, truly pathetic

 

Yeah!!! That English guy who was the head of MI6 (a real nobody huh?!!) is one of the worldwide cabal of baby eating blood drinking, deep state, Trump haters who completely made up, lied about, and deliberately misrepresented the secret services data collected. Trump was NEVER exonerated. But hey, lets not let a good MAGA fantasy and counter-transferential delusion be challenged. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/01/us/trump-russia-investigation-dossier.html

I found about 20 other well known mainstream and investigative journalist articles and video links that say the exact same this as this article does.

Just in case you wish to say; 'Oh that's just one paper and they're part of the deep state hate group against the great and pure Trump.'

What a farce of a place.

Things would get really interesting if, and when Jordan (and dozens of other GOP members) are indicted for 'high crimes' in the conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election.

Smith is right on their yellow tails.

The proletariat will be fed to the guns. The plutocrats will rake in the billions and billions of blood soaked dollars once again. 

Netanyahoooo gets exactly what he and his ultra right wanted.

Hezbollah no doubt is a violent terror group, akin to Al Quaeda, ISIS.

The Israeli Army is also an ultra-terror organisation.

If you don't think so then take a look at the not-to-long-ago Israeli army sniper murder of a clearly identified (ident vested and coloured helmeted) Palestinian/American female journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, by that Army and the complete indifference and cover-up of that murder by that government army.

Its impossible to have any chance of a peaceful settlement in Israel when since the 1940's systematically, unerringly Jewish immigrants have disenfranchised another culture (that has lived in the land just as long as any Jewish person has), being met by fierce resistance by proud Arabic tribes.

Imagine a people who believe that they are the chosen ones and have a God given right to take whatever they please and that the other peoples who live there have no rights, none at all.

Actually not so abstract a concept when you look at what has been happening in the USA since 2016!

The Arabic tribes, who lived there before Moses and all those other dudes written about in the Bible and the Tora, have turned to the only alternative (violent, cruel, and insane as it is) they saw as only left to them.

I've been in that land.
I've seen to systemic institutionalised genocide of the Arabic tribes in Israeli, and it is both shocking and deeply sad. The unending Israeli rhetoric and structural vice which in no way acknowledges any Arabic rights to anything, not water, not space to live, not freedom to work, not freedom to travel, not adequate basic medical care etc etc is never ending.

The narrative that Israel is simply defending itself is both truth and falsity.

You put any culture under unending brutal oppression and those people will either lay down and be crushed into non-existence or stand and fight for their freedom.

In psychotherapy we know about how when you brutalise and dehumanise people, eventually, they either succumb to or become the brutality itself. This brutality is throughout human history passed on to the following generations.

e.g. The recent Balkan wars where the predominantly Christian Catholic government and their army through the generations of cultural hatred passed down by father to son, mass murdered (genicide) the Serbian muslims of that land (thats been breaking out, going on for a thousand years).

As the Jewish people were brutalised by the Nazis and struggled to integrate/cope with such unspeakable brutality, they themselves become the brutaliser in the land now called Israel. The go-to way to do that is to 'otherate', to dehumanise the target group ... then killing them becomes rationalised and normalised. 

One thing I would say is irrefutable is that this treatment takes the sanity of both groups, the primal instincts of empathy and compassion for anyone not 'your people' is removed, dies, in its place a very real form of collective-madness takes root and infests the host.  

11 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

In my honest opinion most of this stuff is happening because he WAS president.  A self centred, weak and ineffective buffoon who made decisions to enrich himself and who could be bought with flattery and golf tournaments.  Knowing so little about geography, history and religious influences he approached every diplomatic situation looking at what's in it for him and without a care for the weak and oppressed.  Justice and compassion are anathema to him.

He took a strong, but admittedly flawed, nation and hollowed it out through outrageous lies and personal attacks using pathetic name calling against those who did not agree with him.

For any enemy of America, he was a precious gift as he polarised elements of American society against each other.  what better way to defeat any country than let it destroy itself from within.

Well said animalmagic.

Betraying hundreds (through Kushner at the express direction of Trump so he could arrange billions of bribe money and secure pathways to building hotels and golf courses in Saudi Arabia), and sending them to their deaths at the hands of the Saudi's. 

Giving away national secrets with his loud mouth.

Allowing Chinese and Russian operatives into the totally unsecured Maro Lardo (with no oversight of them) where super secret docs were lying about in multiple places.

Holding conversations with Putin and expressly doing so without any US translator or note takers present (on multiple occasions).

Having the creepy war criminal Lavrov into the Oval room and telling him all about sacking the boss of the FBI.

Selling the Afghani's down the drain with the Taliban (which set up the debacle of the withdrawal) literally blinding US and NATO oversight and intelligence, and letting 5000 Taliban fighters and intelligence people go scot free).

Killed at least 500,000 Americans through his catastrophically inept mismanagement of the Covid Virus. Blinded the US and the WHO to seeing the outbreak of the virus in China by decimating the body of expert virologists stationed in China and across the globe that Obama appointed and which had shown its preemptive effectiveness in the preceding Ebola outbreak. 

Yep he was a complete trainwreck, not only for the American people, but the entire world given the power he held and abused.  

On 10/9/2023 at 3:46 PM, 2baht said:

Nothing will shut this fool up!

25 years in jail for treason without any contact with the outside world would do the trick ..  but the obvious state of the US nation, its proven propensity to do backroom deals with the racist white-supremacists since day one of its founding and the sycophancy to the rich and powerful to further the robber baron class, sees little hope of this traitor ever being removed into a place of isolation and silence by going to jail.   

1 hour ago, impulse said:

After yet another campaign lie...  There won't be a foot of wall built under my administration.

 

Yeah ... I mean ... what a crock !!!

Imagine actually obeying the law and not simply firing, white-anting, doxing, and endlessly insulting an entire persons professional life, the laws of the land, every institution of the People for the People, b y the People, but instead obeying the boundaries of legal precedent and US law and doing what that tells you you must do. How lame is that!!!???

What an appalling thing that President Biden did that!!

The entire world phenomena of mass migration due to war, famine, civil and religious conflict, economic mayhem and collapse in 3rd world economies is nothing to do with one leader, one President or another, That argument is the most puerile, monumentally ignorant, and non-sensical notion. 

To any critical thinking adult informed person it the culmination, the intersecting creeping result of the hegemony and avarice of 1st world nations spanning many millennia.