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12 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Flash the cash young man. Works well most of the time.

This is pretty much true. We’ve all faced girls like this OP. It’s called a fair challenge. Nice weekend at a 5 star beach resort usually opens the legs. 

1 hour ago, Kerryd said:

"Good" girls (usually) won't go on a date without having a chaperone.

 

"Good" girls (usually) don't (or rarely) display affection (even hand-holding) in public.

 

"Good" girls (usually) won't sleep with you, at least not until after you've been introduced to the (whole) family - in her village.

 

"Good" girls (usually) won't take you home to meet that family unless she's really, really, sure that it's a long term relationship (i.e. leading to marriage). Girls who show up at home with a different guy (especially a foreigner) more than once are likely to be considered sluts by pretty much everyone in her village so she's probably not going to take that risk lightly. (Note - even most bar girls are like that as they like to keep the illusion in their villages that they are "good" girls and not hookers, even if pretty much everyone knows what she is really doing. It's all about "face".)

Nor is she likely to risk getting knocked up by some cheap charlie who will dump her as soon as he finds out she's preggers.
 

Some girls are smart enough to see through the guy's BS and no doubt about it, she's probably been watching everything you do like a hawk. Including any flirtatious gestures made to other women (especially when you think she isn't looking), how much you tip, how you act around kids/animals, how you interact with other Thais, ect, ect.
Depending on where you've gone on your "dates", she's probably talked to others to find out if you've been there before with other women (and how many, how often).

Before she makes a commitment to you (or anyone) she'll literally have a book on you (your spending habits, attitudes, drinking/smoking/eating, prejudices and so on) and you won't even know what village she's from or how to pronounce her last name properly.

As someone else alluded to, age difference is also a factor. A young woman MIGHT get romantically involved with a much older man - IF he is "generous". If he's an old, fat ignorant <deleted> that smokes like a chimney, drinks like a fish and tips like a pikey, then she would probably prefer to keep things at the "friend" level (at least until she's sure she won't have to see or deal with you again).

One suggestion would be to suggest going on a holiday together far away from wherever you currently are (and nowhere near where she comes from). Find a nice resort (not a cheap dive) somewhere nice, like on an island (like Koh Chang) or on the coast (like somewhere around Ranong), and suggest the two of you go there for the weekend and see what she says.

(Being far away from friends/co-workers and somewhere where she isn't likely to be seen by anyone "from home" might do the trick.)

If she says yes, you're golden.
If she says no, you're probably never going to get any further than you already are.
 

Also don’t forget the many Thai girl closed fb groups where they post pics and profiles of guys they are dating to check no one else is dating them!

I think pretty much every Thai girl who dates Fareng is on these groups.

Sadly lists like these don’t prevent the facts.

Blacks in the uk have by far the lowest school attainment, highest % of the population in prison and lowest average wage. 
I’m currently visiting Australia and it’s striking how few blacks there are here. 
Loads of Indians and Asians but hardly any Africans at all. 

8 minutes ago, moldresistant said:

This replies sums up the attitude of most old forum posters here. News flash - many, many travelers you see around the world don't work jobs. Some of us are even smart enough to have investments that pay out. We're not all on the 9-5 until retire then have fun train.

Don’t let them wind you up. It’s largely just jealously. Some older people don’t always understand the premise of not working in a full time job.  
My old man is always nagging me to get a job ????

3 hours ago, Leaver said:

if a Thai freelancer could learn to do that Indian dancer jig, she would probably do alright for herself.  ????

Haha I see loads of freelancers heading into the Indian discos on walking street... must be quite a sight in there on the dancefloor... not willing to go in to find out though ????

Went to I bar last night and insomnia above it the night before. Buy a bottle with some mates and watch the sexy freelances come flocking!

No intention to go back anytime soon though it’s out of my system now.

I went to Pattaya for the first time in a year this week taking some Thailand virgins there for a few days from UK...

I think they thought my stories of sharing Indians were a bit racist until they witnessed with their own ears 4 of them negotiating a 4 in 1 deal (they were aiming for 400 baht!!) with an old girl on beach road!!

Everytime I go to Pattaya I like it less and less to be honest. It’s a depressing dump of a place these days with hardly any Europeans under 60 (excluding Russian couples). The Intercon hotel on the hill is about the only thing worth making a trip there for!

On the upside got a fun freebie from a cute little waitress who scribbled me her line ID on a little note ????

I don’t believe you will be able to get a work permit without a degree regardless of years of experience.

Conversely it will be very easy to get a job even in central BKK. There is a constant shortage of teachers in the unqualified space especially now there is a clamp down on tourist visa / education visa use.

You will earn less than 60k thb a month though.

The good international schools here require qualified teachers with specific teaching diplomas from the west.

In my first school in BKK which was a good girls private school most of the teachers didn’t have degrees and therefore no work permits. However they were studying degrees in Thailand (worthless paper outside of the country imo) to get round the visa requirements.

As per someone else said I would think carefully about leaving Japan. Teaching in Thai schools can be very frustrating on many levels (Management, children and even parents...) and your visa situation here could be difficult.

good luck ????

Gargle with warm salt water a few times a day.

The salt apparently draws out the infection according to my dentist.

(I’m currently having an infection of the pocket that some people have behind their wisdom teeth)

also take painkillers obviously. 

19 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

I don't understand this, unless you are paying to put children through private school and renting a large-condo for a family of 4+.  Or maybe your lifestyle just requires a lot more padding than mine - which is fine, if that's the case. 

 

But in my expereince, Bangkok is only expensive if you live in an expensive condo, eat at expensive restaurants/bars, etc.  As a single-guy, or with a gf/wife, it is certainly possible to live in Bangkok inexpensively.  Granted, not as cheap as "staying in the wife's house in Issan."

 

"Right Visa" being an extension-of-stay paid through an agent, so they get their cut.  Heck, in the Jomtien office, recent report indicates they offer to take the bribe right there for "missing funds" on retirement-based extensions.

You are right, if I had a long term girlfriend I could live quite cheaply.

But I must admit to having a weakness for good restaurants/wine and nice accommodation. I’m here for the lifestyle after working too hard to be able to spend any money for many years in London. 

Holiday Inn is decent and has a pool and gym (I think). Bit out of the way though so you will need to call grab sometimes.

8 minutes ago, FredGallaher said:

At 100K/month a Elite Visa is clearly within reach. However you won't be able to legally work. Actually 100K/month isn't really that high especially those living in hotels and eating out. Retire people often own and have invested in their homes, have cars, etc. This significantly reduces their costs.

If you are bringing in 100K/month, why are you concerned about costs? Seems like you should consult with an agent or immigration lawyer, rather than posting on a forum.

I’m not concerned I’m just thinking hypothetically about the current immigration situation. I have a Non B visa already. 

1 minute ago, FredGallaher said:

At 100K/month a Elite Visa is clearly within reach. However you won't be able to legally work. Actually 100K/month isn't really that high especially those living in hotels and eating out. Retire people often own and have invested in their homes, have cars, etc. This significantly reduces their costs.

Agreed it’s not high at all. I struggle to survive on 100k + my measly teachers salary in BKK because life isn’t cheap here. 

Also agree that retired’s own assets but this doesn’t have an ongoing impact on GDP

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

The 10 million baht can also be in a fixed term account and/or government bonds.

That’s more attractive to me I think, thanks.

2 minutes ago, Hal65 said:

10 million baht is about $300,000. The Philippines investment SRRV is $50,000. I hear construction qualities in both countries is less than desirable.

 

The Phils also has a deposit option for $20,000. And the money is still yours, unlike the $32,000 Thai Elite which is a payment in advance and may be revoked at any time.

 

Problem is Thailand remains a much more pleasant country to live in.

 

I guess it's the Elite visa or nothing for guys under 50 now.

Fair point. BKK especially is a very pleasant city, good healthcare, nice restaurants and many intelligent beautiful girls to meet.

The neighbouring countries don’t quite have it all yet. 

The pending world economic downturn might change things a bit, let’s see what the shake out is in terms of visas in the region.

2 hours ago, HampiK said:

If you really have the money and want stay longer you could go the Investment Visa route!

Invest 10 million baht in Thailand (a new condo and/or money in a government fund) and you can renew your visa every year! And you don't have to pay for your rent anymore as you own the condo. But of course it's more money you have to pay in advanced, but if you really are wealthy (Actually 300K US$ isn't that wealthy at all) this wouldn't be so big deal!

 

 

Anyone who is rich enough to have 10m baht is probably not stupid enough to spend that much on a condo in BKK which will instantly depreciate by 30% on purchase... condos are very easy to buy and not so easy to sell!!!