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2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

As wrote before the first day of overstay would be after the 31 October (November 1st).

 

You should of left the country long ago or at least started getting the 60 day covid 19 extensions before October 31st.

If you get caught with the overstay it would mean mean being detained until you could be deported after buying a ticket out of the country, paying the overstay fine and then be banned from entering the country for 5 years.

Yeah, after years of living with a stable visa based on my children, I wasn't able to secure the same route as everybody involved basically just disappeared, and after 31. October my immigration demanded a letter and my embassy refused to issue anything and then I just ignored the topic. I just found out recently that they had the 60 day extensions now without a letter. Well' that's too late now.

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

As wrote before the first day of overstay would be after the 31 October (November 1st).

Is this a official position? Do you have any official statements? I would be heartbroken if the immigration officers tells me, it is going to be 3 year ban.

25 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I wrote that assuming another extension had been applied for after July 1st.

If no extension was applied on or before October 31st that is when the overstay would start. 

The max fine for an overstay is 20k baht (40 days at 500 baht a day). After that 90 days of overstay is important since that is when a ban from entering the country again starts.

Thanks but now I am total confused.

So, to clear it up from my position: I extended my Non-O at 1. May for 60 days. So, this extension was valid until 1. July (it's the stamp in my passport).

Now, when would my official overstay start? 1. July or 31. October.

I booked a ticket for the 3rd July because I was thinking that my overstay starts from 31. October and I am under 1 year (resulting in 1 year ban). However, 3rd July would be more than a year, if the overstay would have started from 1. July 2020 (resulting in 3 year ban). So, I want to clear this up and probably re-book my ticket.

35 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You are more or less writing about a worst case scenario. 

If you were here on July 1st 2020 and went under the amnesty until October 31st and then failed to to apply for a extension you would be on an overstay from October 31st if you left now.

Wait, are you sure? Do you have an official post for that?

In the other post, you said "extension date" is the date where the overstay starts to count.

So, in the example, if the extension was until 1. July 2020, where would the overstay start?

Anybody have some experience on how full airplanes are right now, in the direction from Bangkok -> Europe.

Just wondering if there are empty rows of economy seats and one could lay down there ????

57 minutes ago, tod-daniels said:

Overstay days start counting from days on overstay BEFORE March 26th <-(the day they started amnesty) then the days AFTER October 31st <-(the day amnesty ended and people needed to get on to embassy/covid extensions).
They are counted as two separate overstays (to maximize the fine) but the days are counted together for the banning. 
An example would be like this; if you overstayed 40 days BEFORE march 26th & another 40 days after Oct 31st you would get a 20K baht fine for each period (40K baht total) BUT you would only have overstayed 80 days total so you wouldn't be banned.
I know it works this way because I just say a passport that had two overstay stamps one covering the period of overstay before amnesty started on March 26th and another covering the overstay after it ended on Oct 31st

Well, what you are saying would contradict the thing @ubonjoewrote. In this way, they would deduct the overstay time within the amnesty, f. ex. if somebody was allowed to stay here until 1. July 2020, the period from 1. July until 31. October wouldn't be counted, but as I understand now, overstay starts at the date of your last extension.

44 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A overstay starts from the day your current permit to stay ends.

If you have gotten a extension of stay it would be the date on the extension stamp.

I thought the 31. October was the starting date for overstay, so I lost an argument.

I wonder when exactly starts the overstay?

Is it from the last stamp in your passport or is it the 31. October, the last day of the Amnesty?

Is there any official statement for this?

Hello,

I am about to cross into the border of Mayalsia on the way to Penang for getting a multiple entry non-o based on Thai child.

Now that I check my documents I see that I forgot the bank book in Chiang Mai...

So my question is, would it be sufficient to print out screenshots from online banking showing my name and 400k? Or is it possible to go to any bank branch (Krungsri in my case) and let them print out some balance paper with only my passport in hand?

Thanks for help!

I didnt get a queue number, just this 9-12 am info.

Just now, Lamkyong said:

i would expect to mean make yourself available between the hours stated

I thought so too, but lucky it seems to not mean it after all.

So I have made an appointed for next week, but it just says 9-12 am, does that mean I can come at 11:30?

If I leave in one province to travel to another, do I have to report in all provinces I cross? ????

Ah, nice, thanks!

Multiple Entry Non O means I get 90 days each time I re-enter the country for basically a year?

Is it possible to get the 90 days single also without financials in penang or/and yangoon?

Can this 1 year extension based on 400k in bank also be done in any immigration (regardless of children registered location?)

Hello,

I have some unclear question regarding getting an non - o visa as father of a Thai child. I hppe someone can shed some light.

So, I gathered the signed copies of ID card and blue housebook of mother, original birth certificate, original fatherhood legalization document and copy of my childs passport and my passport.

Now, where could I get the non o visa? My easiest option would be Penang or even Yangoon. I read that the multiple entry is only possible in Penang and must have 800k in bank and have the child there too?

And is it correct, that I get only single entry 60 days which I could extend for another 30 days, in any immigration office, f. ex. in Phuket even the children are registered (blue book) in Chiang Mai?

Thanks!

4 minutes ago, Issannative said:

It's a birth registration form. 

From other statements I read that this is the legalization paper and not the birth cert.

1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

Nope it´s not the dead end. If it is the document proven you are a legalized father you have. Then you can use that together with a copy of your passport, to get the amphur in your district to write you a new birth certificate. If you have done the legalization process in the amphur and do not have the document, they should still have a record of that and can make you a new birth sertificate.

if you done the legalization in court, and do not have the document of that. Then you get a new copy stamped from the court, and still go to the amphur and get a new birth certificate. The reason I know this is because I´ve gone to our amphur and done that just because we once couldn´t find the first one, so know we have two. At that moment I wasn´t even legalized as a father but they could find my name on the file in the computer anyway and made a new one in only 15 minutes.

After that you can go on your merry way to Sawannakhet and apply for your Non-O based on child dependant. Regarding the info you have about live-in-fathers, that is all wrong. You might have to live in the same amphur or province but you can live on another address and see your children occasionly.

To make this a lawful agreement so that you can see your children on a regular basis, you will do best in petition the court to summon the mother for an agreement and a signed court order on that. She seems like she believe she can do as she want and come away with it.

Good info, but all what I read here regarding the "Non-O based on child dependant" says that I have to have some signed copies from the mother?! You say the original birth certificate + my passport copy + copy of the legalization paper would be enough?

Would it be enough in Sawannakhet to have only copies of the birth cert? Because I wouldnt really know where to start with obtaining the birth certificate, is it at the place where the children are born or the place where they are listed in the housebook?

The last will be a real problem, the amphur where I was legalized as father requested 15.000 THB tea money.... and we had to sit there 5 hours and I doubt anybody wanted to speak to me. I doubt I can do that by myself, I think I wouldnt even get through to the counter.

26 minutes ago, Date Masamune said:

You (may)need Thailand Elite. If you have more than one short overstay or ANY denials of entry it appears to not be possible.

 

Well, I dont have any overstays and no denials and I dont think I want to spend 500k just to stay in Thailand to gain access and be near to my children?! The only reason for me to stay in Thailand is because I somehow wish to play a role in their future life.

For me it kinda looks like the visa because of Thai children only applies to live-in fathers but what if I wish to see them on  a regular basis, ie. every weekend or similiar?! Seems to be an dead end.

Ok, so without the birth certificate (I might have copies though, not sure helpful), I wouldnt receive the visa - so how would I obtain the birth certificate? Is there any way, without consent of the mother? Or is the visa even available without the mother helping?

Thanks so far... so do I have the birth cert or not? I dont know what document tyhis is which I added in the post.

Hello,

after nearly 10 years my girlfriend (the mother of my 5 and 7 year old children) and me separated basically at the moment we entered Thailand last year, in a very non-communicative way, ie. there is basically no contact whatsoever despite my efforts to call them (was allowed to speak to my children twice).

Now I had been on a single entry 3 month non-o visa (applied at Vientiane with signed letters of the mother) and some tourist visas but these aren't possible anymore. So, I am thinking of staying in Thailand to somehow establish a connection to my children (through contacting the mother every now and then) but I am not sure which visa I should try to go for? I am around 30 years old, not working (passive income), from Europe.

We have legalized the fatherhood and I am in possession of the passports of my children, the blue housebook (where I think the children are listed), the mothers birth certificate and of the following document:

So, maybe I could apply for the single entry non-o visa based on a Children myself? Or am I missing something?

Hello,

as I have done something about the legalizing fatherhood, can somebody tell me what documents this is?

Thank you!