ThailandNinja

8 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

No...

From the OP...

"I'm entering Thailand on a Tourist Visa and would like to convert it to a one-year Retirement non-type O"

 

 

And the rest of the sentence is: ".... how can I open a bank account to transfer the 800K?"
So the topic here is open a bank account, NOT appying for a O visa.
I rest my case. Bye.

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You entered with a non O obtained from outside of Thailand.

The OP is asking about obtaining a non O in Thailand from tourist visa entry 

No, he is asking at what visa status he can open a Thai bank account. :)

Here is the web site to apply online:
https://thaievisa.go.th/

17 minutes ago, bkkboy99 said:

@ThailandNinja

When applying online for the 90-day type O, did you have to show an equivalent deposit in a local bank?

They wanted some sort of bank statement, but I can't remember the amount, it was some years ago, but I think it was less then 800.000 thb.

I did open my bank account on a 90 day Imm-O retirement.
I think they don't want to open on a tourist visa but it is up to the branch, same have done that too.
You can actually apply for the 90 day O online in you home country before leaving, if you are in a country that support it.

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I've done that and out of the blue it's rejected.

Rejected again after doing it in person. 

 

And yes I use autofill from magnifying glass 

Strange.
Anyways, maybe it can help some one else.

If you use the search function, you get all the previous data from last time you reported.
Just fill in passport number and nationality and then click the search glasses.

There is a user guide from immigration TM30 login page, se picture.
Don't know it it is any good.

25 minutes ago, dluek said:

I'm in Thailand on a 30-day visa-exempt stamp after doing a border hop to Laos last month (before that I was here on a TR visa + extension). 

I need to extend once more so I can remain legal here until my booked flight back to the US in mid Feb. 

Already researched relevant posts here but still have a couple of questions so I know my ducks are in a row...

 

First, I need to apply for the extension at LakSi immigration IT square, correct? (Last time I got the extension at Chaeng Wattana but reading info posted here Dec 2023 that if extending on a visa-exempt stamp rather than a visa, it needs to be done at LakSi.) 

 

Second, when extending last time at Chaeng Wattana I was not asked to show TM.30, but recent posts here say it is highly likely required at LakSi. 

Regarding TM.30, I've never gotten one of these in my life (lived here permanently 2011-22 and been visiting on TR visas last couple years). My wife and I rent a condo in Bangkok and I am listed as tenant on the lease agreement, and we do have copy of landlord's ID card and her house ownership paperwork. So this makes me a "possessor" which should enable me to obtain the TM.30 on my own at Chaeng Wattana, correct? 

 

Plan is to scoot up to Chaeng Wattana, get the TM.30 in person, then over to LakSi to apply for the extension. I'll be applying only 2 days before my current stay expires so if anyone sees any holes in this plan, please let me know Any help much appreciated.

Why don't you let the owner do the TM30?, it is her duty according to the law.
TM30 can be done online.

44 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Thanks for report.

I was under the impression that Jomtien had gone TM30 crazy. Good to see it wasn't required.

Along with TM47

Regards bank book? Seems photocopies of pages were sufficient.

No bank statements required.

Did you use money in bank or monthly income? 

I had a bank statement and bankbook.
Money in bank.

10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Sounds like maybe a Covid era thing and as an O visa is only for 90 days that would be different and also if you later got retirement extensions in Thailand as started with O no insurance required.

Getting a 90 day O visa outside Thailand based on retirement has always been an iffy situation 

Embassies will generally require OA if you say retirement.

This is why getting the initial O in Thailand has become more usual.

When I started long ago I was able to get an O based on retirement at a Thai consulate in the US.

I did my 90 day O online late 2022, it was easy, just a lot of documents. :)
My home insurance was accepted as health insurance for the 90 days, post covid era.
Extended with no problems, no health insurance required.

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Extensions outside Thailand are never done.

 

Whether you need insurance or not is determined by the visa you start with.

 

O-A available outside Thailand only requires insurance for the initial visa and all subsequent extensions in Thailand. 

 

O visa obtained inside or outside Thailand requires no insurance for the initial visa and all subsequent extensions in Thailand.

 

Obviously the best choice is to start with an O visa not an OA visa.

 

 

O obtained outside Thailand require insurance (Europe one year ago) not sure now.
O obtained in Thailand no insurance required.

9 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

So when you say locked, you are not talking about FD’s. You could have been clearer in your post.

I never said FD's. You assumed I did. I just said locked account. And most FD accounts are not.

You have a nice day too. :)

49 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Please do not give advice unless you know for sure what you are talking about. I’ve been going my extension every year for the past 15 years using my locked FD.

The principle amount can be partially withdrawn before the deposit due term whereby:

• If the deposit was made less than 3 month prior, no interest is paid
• If the deposit was made at least 3 months prior but has not completed the due term, the bank will pay interest at the rate for a savings deposit account for private individuals, and tax will be deducted
  
  Kasikorn FD. So it is not locked but you lose interest.

You can not use an account where the money is locked for any period.
It have to be instant available to satisfy immigration.

It is not for retirement or marriage extensions!

I do mine my self, easy and in the rules of the law...and save money too.

Ok, so now you say it is the 30 day extension. Finally some new info. :)
I am always talking about the 12 month extension.

And you can do TM30 as a renter.
And I always do my extension 2-3 weeks in advance...at Jomtien.

All three OP points in his post are totally false. Please don't bother his post.

Regulation from The Royal Thai police about TM30 point 2.2.
 

2.2 After a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or

hotel manager already made a notification according to 2.1, then the alien

goes to occasionally stay somewhere else and return to stay at the original place

within the notified period of stay tahat has not yet ended, such householder,

owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager is not required to make

a notification again.

They ar

1 minute ago, bbi1 said:

I'll listen to the immigration officers from Jomtien who work at the TM30 desk as Jomtien are the ones I have to deal with when I go there for an extension. If it's wrong, then they are wrong. But I won't try and argue with them trying to say they are wrong and they should read up some regulations. I don't think that'd go down to well for me, or for anyone else trying that.

They are wrong...and so are you. Stop post false information!

3 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

Lol ok, you know better than the immigration officers who work at Jomtien. It's people like you that give people rubbish advice. I'd stick with advice from the horses mouth, straight from Jomtien Immigraion officers.

Just google TM30 regulation and you see you are wrong.
It is people like YOU giving false information on all 3 points!

1 hour ago, bbi1 said:

Lucky I went to Jomtien Immigration and did a TM30 there, as if you do it online you are not allowed to do it as a tenant who's renting. I asked Jomtien Immigration after doing the TM30 if I can do it online, and she said "no because you are not the owner. Only the owner can do it".

 

What I've found on this forum is there are a lot incorrect information being given by a lot of members here. The best thing to do is to only listen to the immigration officers only, otherwise you'll get in trouble and get a nice fine on top of it all. So far there's 3 things that many people have given wrong advice here:

 

1. TM30 online - people saying anyone can do it and that it saves time. No you can't, not unless you are the owner.

 

2. TM30 doesn't need to be done each and every time you enter Thailand and stay at the same residence and on the same visa. Another rubbish that has been posted. You MUST do a TM30 each and every time you enter Thailand, even if staying at the same address and on the same visa. This again was clearly said numerous times at the TM30 desk today to an American elderly dude (maybe in his 60's). Don't know why it needed to be said to him multiple times but he didn't seem to understand it. 

 

3. Extensions of stay can be done a few weeks in advanced. Again this is nonsense, at least at Jomtien. I had to come back 3 times to finally get it done. They only allow you to extend ONE business day before your stamp in your passport expires. You hand in the paperwork on that day, then you come back on the next business day to collect your passport. So you don't actually have your passport on you after this and the day you come back your stamp has already expired so if they somehow lose your passport, you will be on overstay.

Totally wrong on all!