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I did read the requirements. The language used was ambiguous at best, with two possible interpretations both seemingly possible. Having never done reporting by mail before, I thought to ask the question here. DrJack has helpfully answered the question. I then asked a follow-up about timing prior to 15 days. Essentially, must it be exactly 15 days? What about 20 days? Again, DrJack gave an answer. 15 days, 16 also ok. So it seems to me from the replies (and other research) that the goal is to have the submission arrive at CW Immigration between the 15 day and actual due date. Sending it 20 days before deadline could easily result in it arriving too early, but sending it 10 days could result in it arriving too late (though probably not). But I suspect the advice to do 15 (or 16 days) is basically, "Why risk it?" advice. Which I would suggest is the gist of your comment. Anyway, I'll be mailing my 90 day tomorrow, 15 days before. Good thing it isn't the start of a long holiday weekend, or I'd be asking more questions about what happens in the that circumstance, when mailing it 15 days before simply isn't an option!

Non sequitur much?

Two ideas: My first suggestion is to volunteer. Get up in the morning, go out, and help others. It can be a rewarding and positive experience. Turn your boredom into something positive. Even if you end up being bored while you volunteer (unlikely!) at least it isn't just boredom for boredom's sake. If you have any particular expertise is some area, you could offer that knowledge and experience to help others. It can be incredibly fulfilling. Second.... Write. Write what you know. Write about your younger years. Write about your older years. Write your story. For yourself. For your kids.

I've experienced this on a few sites and the issue may be an IP address issue, not a DNS issue. The blocked site I'm visiting is usually blocking the IP address my router has been assigned by my ISP. It's likely that the blocked sites you're visiting are using lists of "known" problematic IP address netblock (a range of IP addresses assigned to an ISP) to set up their blocks and protect themselves from various attacks. The IP addresses that you're being assigned by your ISP likely appear in these lists. (For an example of AIS assigned netblocks, see here: https://ipinfo.io/AS133481) You can ask your ISP to try assigning you a new IP address from a different netblock. Some will do it, some won't. A tech coming out to your place to see the problem may be necessary. They can likely push a request through that you can't via a phone call (unless you get someone knowledgeable on the other end of the line). Hope this helps.

Good post. You've described a definite type of expat you can find here. To clarify, by expat I mean specifically someone who lives here as opposed to tourists, which is what you seem to also mean. But there are certainly a lot of tourists who fit that description. Some are here for a week or two, some a month or two. All of that said, you can find the opposite type of expat too. It depends largely, I think, on where you go looking.

Yeah, I mis-typed the month. I meant July 18th, not August 18th. I use timeanddate.com for this stuff.... https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=4&m1=5&y1=2025&type=add&ay=&am=&aw=&ad=90&rec= I could either subtract 15 days from that. OR.... I could just add 75 days to my original entry date.... https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=4&m1=5&y1=2025&type=add&ay=&am=&aw=&ad=75&rec= I've always added 90 days to the date of entry. The way I've calculated is that the day I enter the country is day zero. The next day is day 1. So for example, if Thailand had a "1 day report" requirement (please, no!) then I would have to report the next day, on Day 1. On the CW website they have an example pdf of a 90 day report receipt (https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/example-90-day.pdf). The day on which this person reported is the same as if it was the day the person entered Thailand, 0. The receipt actually shows the due date for the next reporting is 91 days later, but that's because 90 days falls on a Sunday, when they are closed. Ha! Of course 89 days falls on Saturday, when they are again closed, so their example is, not surprisingly, unhelpful in regards to addressing the +89 or +90 day question! Honestly, sometimes I just have to laugh (and cry). But.... I just had a look at an old online 90 day receipt I got where I the next reporting date helpfully falls mid-week, and they did +90 from the date I reported. https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=24&m1=2&y1=2022&type=add&ay=&am=&aw=&ad=90&rec= Anyway, as always when it comes to this stuff, there's too much confusion, I can't get no relief.

The times I've tried online after a trip were in the past. My most recent entry to Thailand was May 4th and I have not yet done the 90 day report (still too early). Nothing has been rejected this time. My understanding from what you wrote earlier is that mailing should be an option. My plan is to mail it August 18th, which is 15 days before the 90th day due date of August 2nd.

Exactly the issue I face. Take a trip outside Thailand, come back, and 90 day online not accepted. The times I've tried it's been rejected, necessitating a trip to CW (which is quite far away from me). Thanks again for the replies.

Apologies if my reply annoyed you. I thought I understood what you wrote perfectly well. I was just clarifying further, since in your reply you suggested that MORE than 15 days was perfectly fine. Or maybe I misunderstood when you wrote.... (Emphasis added)

So then it could be 30 days prior? 20 days? Just not 14 days or less before 90th day. It must be 15 days or more. Wow. So it is the 2nd less obvious interpretation after all, not the first! Thank you!

I've been in Thailand but I've never done a 90 day report by mail. Always in person or online. I've got a question about timing, because naturally, the immigration website is less than clear. The website for CW immigration (https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/90days-report/) says: The foreigner makes the notification in person, or authorizes another person to make the notification (The notification must be made within 15 days before or within 7 days after 90 days notification due date) The foreigner makes the notification by registered mail (Thailand Post only and send the mail before the renewal date 15 days to Immigration Office in local area where the foreigner resides) The foreigner makes the notification via internet by terms and conditions of service. Check the website : www.immigration.go.th or https://tm47.immigration.go.th/ The first option is pretty clear, there is a 23 day window (15+1+7=23 days). "within 15 days before or within 7 days after 90 days notification due date" The second option is less clear, and could be read two ways: Send it within 15 days before the renewal date (but note that the word "within" is missing) OR Send the mail before the renewal date 15 days time period, which would mean at least 16 days before the renewal date (note it does not say "time period") I'm guessing it should be read the 1st way, but red tape being what it is here, it could just as easily be the 2nd.

I'm wondering if they changed the way the confirmation receipt looks for online TM-30 submissions. Previously my landlord had someone else do the TM30 reporting, and the receipt I got always looked like this: My landlord did the TM30 on their own this time, and the system generated a receipt that looks like this: The new one doesn't say Informed in green. My Landlord followed the steps seen in this video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7rscSt95T4 ... But the pdf he got looks different from the way it used to look. Going to do an extension and last time I was there they said they needed a new TM30 for me. Thanks for any advice you can offer!

Yeah, seems so. I was hoping for clarification and all I got was cacophony.

Now you know of a case. It was 2000THB (or maybe 1900THB - some things are 1900, some are 2000). Anyway, the school prepared all paperwork with MoE and Immigration and met a group of students at Immigration for the initial visa application. For extensions, they prepared all the paperwork and students would go by themselves to Immigration. When you're a legitimate student who is legitimately studying at a legitimate school, there are no extras. Lots of pages of documents, but everything is on the up and up. In all the time we've been in Thailand, we have NEVER paid (nor been asked or expected to pay) any "extras". With the exception of what the school handled for the ED Visa, we've always dealt with Immigration on our own and we have never used an agent for anything. And maybe that's the difference. Things cost more through an agent because you're paying for their time, knowledge, employees, and overhead... not because the agent has to cover "extras" on a your behalf.

Quick update in case this will help someone.... There was no problem with Immigration at the airport when returning after leaving the country for 3 weeks. And no problem with MoE or Immigration with getting an extension on the visa after returning. Just needed to have the re-entry permit in place before leaving and everything was completely normal.