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Hi,

I just went to pattaya immigration and they told me they want blue book, owner's id card, rental contract. When i did the same thing a few months ago, they didn't ask why of these other than just filling the standard form.

Did they change the requirements for extensions?

Thanks in advance.

Thanks guys I will remove that card and apply on time.

3 minutes ago, Caldera said:

Just apply for an extension, if you want to stay longer. If they question this (and I think that's very unlikely), simply tell them that your plans have changed and that you would like to stay longer.

 

I'd be surprised if you cannot get the extension, but in any case, the worst that can happen is that you won't, so there's no harm in trying. 

Ok I will do this. For sure if I exit and come back, I will have issues, just hope not face the same issue from within Thailand.

4 minutes ago, Caldera said:

The OP mentions flying into Bangkok though, so something seems off. If the OP entered Thailand at a Bangkok airport after visa exempt was changed to 45 days, there should be no arrival card involved. 

Ok I see what's going on. I just checked this departure card was put in my passport in my previous visit. But it's exactly 30 days after my last entrance, so it's a coincidence. Because I can see the enter date on this card matches my previous visa, not the current one. It only matches the current one by 30 day exit.

In any case though, I still wonder if immigration can give me problems inside Thailand because she seemed like she entered a lot of info about my 30 day of stay and leaving before stamping me.

9 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

What does your arrival stamp in your passport say. That is the important one.

It shows 22 Oct to 5 Dec 2022 and it says visa class: W30 (45).

Is this ok? There are no custom notes but maybe she put something in the system? Because she took pictures of my return ticket, etc.

Just now, Barrydives said:

Maybe its just my ignorance, but how did you get a 45 day visa?

 

Now certain countries are eligible for 45 day visa exempt upon arrival by air I assume.

Hi,

Basically last time I fly into Bangkok, I was asked how long I will stay, and show ticket which I did for 30 days, so my departure card shows leaving date of 30 days after the enter date. But my visa is for 45 days.

If I try to extend this visa at a Thailand immigration office within 45 days, would the date on the departure card be a problem?

I am not sure if conditions can be attached to a visa or in the system so that the visitor is not eligible for extension within the country?

Thanks in advance.

On 11/4/2022 at 9:15 PM, 2009 said:

I agree; it's dumb.

 

If you have the 800k in a Thai bank, you should be able to get the retirement visa regardless of age - rather than having to wait til 50.

 

But TiT.

Agreed 100%. From what I gathered, basically they make the visa requirements easy for old people because the kind of people who retire in Thailand don't have the kind of money to get wealthy pensioner visa for example.

By far the vast majority of these people can't muster 80K USD per year. That alone is a livable actual salary for most in their home country. Neither they have 1M USD net worth.

So I think that's why Thailand wants these people who don't have as much to spend but towards their EOL to spend whatever they have left here. If they could extract more money from them, then they could.

Otherwise why not get these retired people to also prove they have 80K income as pension for example, because they don't have it.

On 11/4/2022 at 9:42 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

They want big spending tourists , not people who try and make a small bit of money go a long way and generally make the streets look untidy with their old worn out clothes and a haircut once every six months 

Many retired people don't spend much though. From what I experienced the biggest spenders are short(er) visitors so they just spend a lot to enjoy.

4 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

No wonder you received 12 laugh emoji on your OP.

Along with nothing positive.

Your thread is a nonsense. 

You state....

"Yes i have many friends who have several million dollar net worth in Singapore which is where i live".

 

Ludicrous. With that level of wealth there are options already outlined.

 

 

 

Yes but those people choose to live in sg coz of tax not visa. I am just saying they are missing out on some demographic. Not everyone wants to shell out 500k for visa is what i am saying.

It should be the same for all people regardless of age. More money = more privileges, not more age

1 hour ago, JimTripper said:

They want to milk out as much money from people as possible.

 

Overall, people of a certain age the research will show have more money then others, others will have more money at a certain age with health insurance and can afford a larger deposit in a Thai bank, younger people will be attracted by an elite card to impress people, etc.

 

If it's all based on income or savings and not age, they lose money overall because they can't get more out of those who have more.

Thx but aren't retired people pay less than younger ones for visa? The retired are supposed to have more money but they pay less for the visa.

For example showing 800k in bank account is cheaper than spending 500k. Not to mention agents allow retired people to not have 800k in their bank through other means.

5 hours ago, paulbrow said:

What country doesn't regulate by age? In the US you have to be minimum retirement age before you can draw social security. All "Senior" discounts are based on age. OP just seems to be a bit anti-rules. I see no difference in "Retirement Age" for whatever service you may choose to discuss.

And what's that got to do with visas? You need to go back to school friend.

6 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Why rent when you can have something for a lifetime and can hand off to your kids..............

Why lock your money when you can grow it faster than real estate.. many people here don't understand the concept of investing it seems.

And not everyone plans to have kids.

22 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

Thailand is one of the very few countries which does allow this..... 

 

Pay for a Thai Elite Visa... you can stay for 20 years !!.....  (or if you joined early enough, the rest of your life).....

 

It's not an investment... its a payment (Thai Elite)

600,000 for 5 years.... and upwards to 2 million baht for 20 years with perks. 

 

If someone is ‘wealthy enough to do what they want’....  and they want to stay in Thailand, this is not an issue 

If they can’t pay that, they are clearly not wealthy enough to do what they want and are therefore likely to be looking to source income through other means...  balance of probability, they are going to live and work here illegally. 

I was talking about 500k usd as the post i quoted you need to invest that much in the country.

6 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Half a million what ? If half a million Thai baht that doesn't amount to much against most other currencies.

Usd as post i quoted mentioned that as a requirement.

7 hours ago, Freddy42OZ said:

I have a friend here from the UK.  He's 21 with a net worth of around 3 million GBP from crypto. 

He rents a condo in Bangkok for 150K THB per month and is here on a tourist visa.  When his visa is up, he leaves for a month or more to travel to other countries and has no issue getting another tourist visa when he comes back to Bangkok. 

That is also what I did before I turned 50.   3 weeks here, 1 week in Singapore. 3 weeks here, 1 week in Hong Kong. etc

Easy to do if you are young and have cash.

Yes i have many friends who have several million dollar net worth in Singapore which is where i live. Singapore is one of the most crypto friendly country with 0 tax so can't beat that. Even vitalik buterin is there.

23 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

Well, 500000 is only a modest condo in Bangkok, gotta sleep somewhere mate.

Have you heard about the concept of renting? Look it up mate..

40 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Not being picky but what you mean is "no limit on visa exempt entry"

 

Visa on Arrival is something completely different. Available to certain countries. 

I didn't know they were different. I thought if you are visa exempt, then what you get was VOA. Is this not the case? For example for Canada.

The officer told me, if you don't have proper visa the officer might reject your entry. After asking why I am not applying for visa.

1 hour ago, bbi1 said:

 

This is starting to get a bit concerning. Another 2 reports from different people about being questioned in depth by BKK immigration on arrival. This time by a two male IO's. Seems it doesn't matter if you go to a male or female one.

 

Did you both use the Fast Track lane like me or the regular queue?

 

The most concerning is the last report, where he was pulled aside into another room for an extra grilling.

I used regular lane.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Just the usual jerks at immigration searching for relevance.

 

Perhaps unaware the tourism is knackered currently in Thailand.

 

So one hand increases visa exempt to 45 days and the other hand plays games for folk entering visa exempt.

 

Let me think.....tv 60 day vs visa exempt 45.

No brainer. 

When i told this to her about 45 vs 60, and how much work you get to do for 60 and the wait time that requires more planning she couldn't say anything.

But i didn't know there was no limit to VOA.

I also got questioned yesterday.

So what happened was I was in my queue at suvarnabhumi airport and then another agent came and said he will take me. So after looking at my stamps he asked how long i will stay, I said 30 days. Then he said how long I stayed last time. I said 15 days because I did cambodia visa run. He said you only stayed there 1 hour.

He said he will call the supervisor so he pressed the yellow button.

Then supervisor woman came and brought me to another place for questioning. She asked what's my purpose of visit. How long I will stay? What's my work? Because my work is public she asked if she will find me there if she googled my name. She did of course.

Then she said where I will stay. Address of that place, and if I paid for the stay. How long I paid for.

Also asked return ticket which I had. She took photo of the address and the return ticket.

She asked why I didn't apply for visa but she didn't know visa was for 60 days, instead of 30 which I corrected her. She also didn't know it was 45 days not 30 days which I told her. I basically said just for 15 days more, it seems a lot more hassle to apply for visa and outside the country, which you need time and planning.

She said VOA is for short term visit.

Then she took me to another booth to stamp me in, it says 45 days extension, but I wonder if with all the info she collected, she flagged me on their system in case I actually didn't leave after 30 days (per ticket) to cause issues for extension inside the country or the next arrival to Thailand.

22 hours ago, CanadaSam said:

Five Star does a pretty good job, I think they're at Queen Victoria maybe soi 6?  A friend did cambodia a few days ago, said everything went smooth.

"Your friend" apparently lied to you. I just went there today, they said they don't do visa runs anymore, their email doesn't even exist anymore.

So much misinformation on this forum.

On 9/26/2022 at 4:56 PM, scubascuba3 said:

Try Maneerat, Soi Post Office 13\2, they used to do 4 minibuses pre covid, not sure if they've re-started

i asked this company, they said they dont do it. They gave another contact so I will see what he says. If not then could try Ubon Joe's link.

Thanks a lot!

Hi,

Anyone knows a good place in pattaya that does border runs? I don't know if there are any here, but would appreciate any advice. My visa is set to expire on Oct 8. Is that enough time?

Thanks a lot in advance.

I think OP seems like a good benefit on paper and also it might be better to have it when young and potentially drop it when old but unfortunately if you have one of the higher tier plans and very wide coverage area like worldwide or worldwide excluding USA, the premiums combined with IP was around 30K USD at age ~80. This is too expensive to maintain.

Another thing is, I don't know if the insurance will be very lax if you wanna go see doctors anytime you want and basically get over-excessive checkups.

For this insurance the biannual checkup allowance was like $200 which is nothing, so the way I see it, it's not an empty cheque for anything medical.

5 hours ago, JayClay said:

Maybe it depends on age but the worst mistake I ever made was getting a policy without OP cover. It's cost me tens of thousands of baht over the last few years. ????

Yes but April OP costs a lot more than that. I see it 100K for this year alone if I had to pay due to my zone of coverage. It would be hard for me to hit that.