Pi Sek

 

If it wasn't a point of law, then the police have no right to "request" anything.

Welcome to the new Thailand under Military Rule.

 

... which, as we can see from the Police Commander's statement, is more lenient than ANY civilian government in the decade-plus that I've been here.

This time, they're "requesting" in the hope of cooperation, before they "requested" under pain of a big fine.

I totally agree with Karen Bravo, they don't have any right to "request" anything without a decree from someone far more important than any policeman. That's policy, the police's job is to enforce policy.

 

So, according to you:
- someone wearing an army cap, a black jacket and riding a Honda Wave looks like a soldier
- soldiers typically take away students' telephones and drive off
 
And just before that you claim that "desperate soldiers" include the extortionist-that-never-was (well, at least according to the market traders whose complaints about the previous extortion crew led to this guy being put in) and you try to pin the 91,000 missing sacks of rice on those who noticed it was missing on an inspection. Who's desperate?
 
Apart from replacing a democratically-elected autocracy from Thailand with an unelected autocracy for the benefit of a more healthy future democracy (twice in recent years!), what exactly is your beef with the army? It sounds like they must have really wronged you for you to come up with such a strong opinion.

read the topic http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/749164-court-grants-bail-for-extortion-suspects and many moere about extortionist general on this forum.

and here about arrested soldiers:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Army-staff-implicated-in-missing-rice-30238527.html
"Army staff implicated in missing rice
A Staff Judge Advocate on Tuesday brought a private and an army Sergeant to surrender to police for their alleged involvement in the case of 90,000 sacks of rice under the rice-pledging scheme that went missing from a granary in Pathum Thani province.
An inspection team set up by the military junta to inspect rice under pledging scheme inspected the Phoenix Argritech granary in Muang district recently and found that 90,000 sacks of rice had disappeared. A complaint was filed with police"

every single (bar the first thaksin government) democratically elected government was overthrown by military. They do it for their own benefit, to increase spending on armaments, and line their pockets in the process. They do murder citisens in hundreds and thousands. They do terrorise the whole society with draconian laws and threat of imprisonment. They take the coushty governmental jobs for themselves and their cousins, without having any qualification for such positions.

 

I shouldn't but I will...

"line their pockets... murder citisens [sic] ... draconian laws and threat of imprisonment... coushty governmental jobs for themselves and their cousins"

You have just very accurately described the Thaksin regime.

Nice jump from A to D there by the way, but it does highlight the ridiculous prejudices that you hold that everyone else seems to have already pulled you up on. Soldiers voluntarily surrendering to civil authorities for the sake of transparency is not normally considered an admission of guilt, but then I haven't attended any political conditioning schools so my opinion may need "direction".

One of my tenants got cut off by CTH because he hadn't paid... because of no bill. Despite having tried to get one on several occasions through several channels.

The local cable company (operating the CTH office) could not offer any help - they said it was CTH's problem and their billing process was causing lots of problems, and I believe him. The call centre had great English and were very polite... but couldn't do anything. Their customer service email bounced. All in all, a terrible issue with sending bills. (Besides which, they conveniently "forgot" that I had signed up for 12 months @ 749 Baht, not month-by-month at 899 Baht.)

I always thought the program guide would get better within a few months. Wishful thinking I suppose.

I think they have a fair product for a fair price but they run it pathetically poorly.

Telling the U.S. Ambassador to mind her own business

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This cartoon represents the view of many of those who support the coup and oppose the anti-coup statements of foreign governments.

It makes the suggestion that Kenney is desperately trying to express-educate herself into a position that might give her some elevation over other foreign envoys but absolutely missing the bigger picture because she's learning from the wrong places (in this case a generic pocket dictionary).

Good cartoon.

jayboy jayboy jayboy... Why is it that your posts are so aggressive? I think I have commented on a number of threads where you've maybe been a bit trigger happy with the verging-on-insulting tone. I plead with you again... you are clever enough to interest and engage those that don't agree with you, so why the constant attempts to shout them down? You, along with the likes of Thai At Heart and Emptyset come up with some very good arguments that counter those of fascist Yellow Shirts like myself. Why not use them?

For the record... I think Yon is not a good journalist. In fact he's as bad as Nick Nostitz. They're still both worth reading though, so one can get a good feel for the more hysterical propaganda flying around on both sides.

Yon doesn't even claim to be a journalist.He is a worthless fraud feeding off the gullible - he has no understanding of Thailand's political crisis and his boorish hounding of a blameless US ambassador is a disgrace.As to his expertise on the US military I have no idea but he comes over as a stupid obese thug.

Nick Nostitz is a superb photo journalist and has been praised by many distinguished experts including the historian Chris Baker.

It is absurd to compare the two - not because of their politics or affiliations, but because Nostitz is a a high calibre observer and Yon is as described above.

Well, each to their own - but I disagree on your appraisal of:

1. Yon - he may be an-outlet for totally pro-Yellow propaganda, and most of the snippets that come from him are hearsay, and I agree that he is feeding off the gullible (though not as a worthless fraud), but I think he knows Thai politics pretty well and I personally agree with the criticism of...

2. Kenney - The US' unwavering support for a government that is democratically elected but autocratic in nature in furtherance of democracy is quite frankly a disgrace, and if I were an American I would be ashamed; as far as I'm concerned she's out of the same book as Yinglak. Besides, I am very skeptical as to what the US actually wants here, as I think democracy in Thailand is as important to them as it is to Thaksin. They don't want democracy, they want a puppet state that follow their lead in the region, hence all their posturing (as is the case with the allies of the Western "amart" such as Australia). And I certainly wouldn't write off the suggestion by "than" above that they miss the days of extraordinary rendition centres in Udon and they are interested in the gas reserves in the Gulf.

3. Nostitz - is very comparable to Yon in the balance of his reporting; besides which the two photo-journalists (I think that's the best word to describe them both) are probably the two that are closest to the events on the ground. The only real difference is that Nostitz claims to be neutral, and Yon doesn't.

We already know you disagree, and you probably find my opinions a little baffling. But it's important for democracy to realise that both your and my opinions are shared with many. One or both of us may even be wrong, but how can we tell due to the nature of untruths on all sides? This is why education is important to democracy and also why, in a flourishing democracy, political radio stations and firebrand speakers should not be allowed to disseminate whatever accusations they they feel like throwing out. Which, in my opinion, is exactly why reform is needed before election; and this reform has to be agreed upon by all quarreling parties. Unfortunately, I think that it is beyond Thais' nature to sit down and make this agreement unless they have been forced to sit down and talk by the military who are, in my opinion, responsible for stopping a civil war and therefore the saviours of the nation.

A character he certainly is. Nobody who lives as long as we have is going to have a past path free of critics. Certainly some criticism is deserved. I lose patience when I see misinformed memes repeated about Yon, as I do know him quite well.

He makes no bones about his personal politics, and he is as entitled to his preferences as any of us. I will say that his personal views derive from a much deeper analysis than many realize. He is also quick to publish a correction or a retraction.

As for his personal finances, he is under no obligation to share that information with anyone. It is between him and the IRS. As for the sniping about Yon's "work permit," or his visa, the Royal Thai Government is acutely aware of his presence and his activities in the kingdom.

I thought it fascinating, in fact, that Yon remained unmolested by the former Puea Thai government, as his coverage of the Whistleblower protests continued. The Reds, who know him well in Chiang Mai, likewise left him be. When Yon visited the Red protest site, he was not abused in any way.

For all those critics of the coup who claim that the media is not free in Thailand, I will agree to the extent that lèse majesté is illegal. Aside from that, it is possible to publish just about anything here. I will add that I think that CNN and BBC both merit their sustained time-out on TrueVisions. I hope that it costs them both a ton of money. If they are smart, they will tighten up their editorial processes and pursue a more balanced and sober reporting from the kingdom.

As an American, I believe in a free press. But this is Thailand. The generals are now in charge. They are loyal to their people and to their King. Bottom line.

I would finally add that the press in America is not free. We believe that it is, but if the recent character assassination directed at Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden is any indicator, the mass media in America is outright owned by corporate America, the same malign actors that Ike warned about in his infamous address on the military-industrial complex.

There are efforts afoot, moreover, to bring the wild parts of the internet under control. We are living in historic times, in the infancy, still, of the internet, which only was born for practical purposes around 1995. Next year, the internet as most of us know it will be twenty years old.

I pray that it may never be regulated. The eruption of the net in the past twenty years has been the most momentous development in the history of the human race. Nothing matters more.

I hate spam.

Nonsense.There is no deep analysis from Yon.He is an opportunistic semi educated goon with no credibility at all with other than the gullible.Your remarks about the generals in charge are ridiculous and could have been borrowed from the Yonster.

What's sad is to see Americans who profess patriotism but despise the ideals of Jefferson and Founding Fathers..

And on his snake oil fund raising activities you are simply wrong.He is guilty of defrauding the public.

I disagree.

So now what?

Ok. I will play.

1. "No deep analysis from Yon." Did you bother to read his articles on the Whistleblowers on his magazine site? No one reported with more depth on the constituent organizations or their activities. Any journalist or academic that writes about recent events must either consult those articles, or be impoverished with a shallow understanding that leaves them regurgitating one another's drive-bys.

2. "Semi educated?" That must be why he has 240,000 fans on his Facebook. "No credibility?" Again, 240,000 fans, and a half million readers on a daily basis, must all be stupid. Oh, and "gullible." No need to substantiate any of these statements. This is the internet. Anyone can pontificate to their heart's desire. Please continue. What you write, and what you think, has swayed me not one iota.

3. My comments about the generals in charge are ridiculous? Again, illuminate me. I assure you that my words are my own. I borrow from no one.

4. How you get the idea that "Americans who profess patriotism but despise the ideals of Jefferson and Founding Fathers" mystifies me. Again, 'fess up and substantiate your ludicrous statement. I would love to hear it. Except that it might make my IQ drop.

5. "Defrauding the public?" "Snake oil?" I know that I am going to regret giving you the time of day, but I feel that such bitterness must be given an opportunity to explain itself.

So go ahead. You get five more minutes of my time. Then I am moving on.

I hate spam.

Save this mindless junk for the the bars where there are many veterans who ruminate endlessly on these US military trivia matters.There used to be places on Washington Square where ex US army drunks, some of them quite amiable wittered on endlessly in this manner.None of them as far as I know had been commissioned officers.

Yon is a fraud and a huckster, and knows nothing about Thailand beyond what he is fed..If you see him as informed or interesting, that's your privilege.

jayboy jayboy jayboy... Why is it that your posts are so aggressive? I think I have commented on a number of threads where you've maybe been a bit trigger happy with the verging-on-insulting tone. I plead with you again... you are clever enough to interest and engage those that don't agree with you, so why the constant attempts to shout them down? You, along with the likes of Thai At Heart and Emptyset come up with some very good arguments that counter those of fascist Yellow Shirts like myself. Why not use them?

For the record... I think Yon is not a good journalist. In fact he's as bad as Nick Nostitz. They're still both worth reading though, so one can get a good feel for the more hysterical propaganda flying around on both sides.

And you are sure you government is corrupt free?

Well mine isn't and any who is caught out is dealt with by the courts .

Not an army coup!

By the way it's being condemned worldwide but the yellow gang on here know better than anyone else!

Ah, so your country prefers the judicial coup route!

One way or the other, Thai Rak Thai and all of its reincarnations will always cry foul if anyone objects to them breaking the rules they signed up to uphold.

No one knows yet what General Prayuth's real intentions are. He has good reason to worry about resistance. The pro-government Red-Shirt movement is far better organised than eight years ago, and could still be financed by former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's deep pockets.

Johnathan Head on the bbc website.

Seems to be rather a change of heart from him.

That's because he is basically a whore.

Oh, and I was born British, and held great pride in the BBC before it turned into a tabloid.

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She's right up there with the beer heiress for public relations disaster of the year award. I wonder if she might have some "dirty" secrets of her own that could surface. Might be attractive but definitely behind the door when the brains were handed out.

not that attractive. widely critisied on thai social media.

she is the one on the left. even the ladyboy on the right has a better shape.

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Firstly I apologise if this is out of line, I realise this highlights a shortcoming on my part to accept people for who they want to be. I suppose I can try to justify it by pointing out how shallow this thread is.

Secondly I apologise if this has been said before, I couldn't be bothered to read the contents.

But what I want to say is... she was born with a willy, and that thought has always grimed me out a bit too much.

More non-violent protests by red-shirts.

Those who think the PDRC are doing this to themselves are watching too much red-shirt TV : only the truly dumb would believe such a thing. The only effect would be to discourage anyone joining the protests.

What sickens me the most is that it will make a fleeting headline as grenade attack number 70-something then we will get 10 more editorial comments about how bad the PDRC are for camping outside the media offices.

The press is a disgrace in Thailand.

It is my opinion that the 10 April 2010 incident at Kok Wua was started by UDD-affiliated Black Shirt M79 grenadiers, and the same armed element followed up by rifle fire from both ground-level and elevated positions. I feel it is highly likely that this slaughter was organised between senior UDD membership (Nattawut, Jatuporn, etc), Gen Seh Daeng and Thaksin.

So, if the Red Shirt leadership are happy to kill their own for media coverage and sympathy, I don't see it as massively unlikely that the PDRC would do the same.

If he want to eradicate corruption in the country he should just fade away into obscurity (together with the rest of the Shin clan).

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my favourite uncle.

Get your son, get your passports and run, run, run my friend.

The problem is that she has your 2nd child inside her. Unfortunately there's nothing you can do about that until the baby comes out.

Then your ignorant, very ignorant, the n/s divide has nothing to do with the shinawatra's, take a look at the history and how this country came together as one, then the insurgency duing the indo-china wars.. this conflict is about the traditional elites in bangkok and their followers angry that they had lost power due to democracy.

I almost agree with you, only your reply should have been 3 words shorter.

Whether you can or cannot say that 1m people localised in one place represents the majority is irrelevant. What you definitely can say is that it represents a significant portion of society that, whether they be the minority or majority, should have a proportionately significant portion of the say in which their country is run.

So, when Abhisit beats this case because his clear instruction was to follow the escalation of use of force under international standards, I wonder if Tharit will then turn his attention to uncovering which individuals in the armed forces decided to overrule Abhisit's instruction.

"Pol. Lance Corp. Tanusorn Jaikaeng, who is an investigation assitant at Karon Police Station." looks like he has a lot to answer for.

"All the damaged cars and motorbikes were taken to Kathu Police Station." - why Kathu, as Patong police station was just down the road. Wonder when the owners will see their cars again ?

Because Tambol Patong is in Amphoe Kathu.

A well spec'd toyota commuter might do the job

I have looked at this also. I'm sure if one was totally gutted out and re-fitted it could make a seriously luxurious limousine. But unfortunately it still looks like a minibus, and that is a deal-breaker.

We have 4x4 PJS and Fortuner, both are good. The Toyota's engine is better but the Mitsu chassis and interior is a little nicer, at least for me.

These two have proper all wheel drive systems with a center diff so they are good on the highway but also good off road. The others are either part time like the MUX, Trailblazer or Everest (good off road) or FWD with rear drive added like the CR-V, Captiva, Escape and CX-5 etc (not so good off road).

The PJS and Fortuner are older than the MUX and Trailblazer but have had upgrades through their model lives. Most of the newer stuff on the PJS has been in other markets for some time (Rear disc brakes and stability system).

Early Fortuners had some issue with brakes and early PJS had some rear diff issues but both seem to be sorted now. The MUX / Trailblazer probably still too new / low volume for any issues to be identified.

Ssangyong have a couple of models in this category too but like Hyundai, Kia and the upmarket brands their dealer network is less than impressive.

Excellent feedback, thanks.

Gen. Prayuth went on to stress that he would likewise display the same hostility toward the anti-government protesters if they had organised separatist movements and insulted the Royal Family…

Remember these words.

As Jatuporn ratchets up the temperature he is bound to give tacit or overt support to the separatist concept and make thinly veiled allegations about the royal family and the privy council. If they is no coup, he has to find a palpable bogeyman to stir up hatred. Suthep is not enough, as he is just one man with no real power of his own who can theoretically be dealt with by the law and probably will be soon. So it is important to build up the image of Suthep as a puppet controlled by shadowy amart figures who hate democracy, just as YL is portrayed as a puppet controlled by a paranoid schizophrenic in Dubai. Also keep in mind that the PDR Lanna separatists have been widely using the red and white flag that first appeared during the red shirt riots in 2009 when they came out to protest the confiscate of Thaksin's assets. The significance of this flag is that it is a parody of the Thai flag that is red (for nation), white (for religion) and blue (for monarchy). The significance of the missing colour is immediately obvious to any Thai.

Whilst I empathise with your suspicions, strictly speaking the white is for "faith", not "religion".

What about Chevy Captiva...it fits the bill and about B 1.5.

I had a look at that at the Chevrolet dealership, but I figure the Trailblazer fits the business needs a little better.

Probably not very well received, but fits all points on the bill: Kia Sorrento

x 7 seats

x diesel engine

x 4x4

Can't remember well the price and Kia Thailand website sucks....around 1.6-1.7m I think.

Resale would be pretty poor i guess, otherwise a nice SUV which of course in Thailand is underrated.

Thanks for that... actually I was also considering the Hyundai but decided against it as there's no service centre near me (which is also the case for the "luxury" SUVs on my list). Kia is the same, but I didn't even know about Kia in Thailand (for some reason I thought they were Malaysian - they're Korean). Unless I was going for something really OTT in terms of "Wow" factor, I'd be hesitant to propose a regular SUV that meant they had to travel any more than 30 minutes to the nearest service centre.