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3 minutes ago, Brewster67 said:
Where was this announced?... link please if you have it.
Check Twitter. Loads of reliable sources reporting it.
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It's been just announced that prohibition will continue as it was until further notice. Probably at least until end of May.
There is going to be a lot of very confused livers in Thailand wondering if they have been sacked.
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1 minute ago, Brunolem said:
One can imagine that he forgot to type %, as in 0.1% for covid 19 and 0.68% for cancer...or something like that...
If someone claims that she has done the math, I do expect this person to be proficient enough to use the correct ways to display the results.
That's also why I asked to see the source data as well as how the math was done.
Math is beautiful as it's either correct or incorrect. So, let us see the math now.
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1 hour ago, mauGR1 said:
I did a math, since January 2020 apparently there is about 0,0148 chance to die from coronavirus.
For a comparison, apparently one has about 0,685 chances to die from cancer.
Not sure the numbers are correct, so feel free to correct.
Looking at these numbers, are the lock downs worth ?
So, by your math, Since January 2020 there is 1.48% chance of dying from coronavirus and 68.5% chance of dying from cancer.
Those are rather big numbers. Care to tell, what sources did you use and show us your math as well.
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3 minutes ago, Logosone said:
No, it's exactly the other way round.
Immunity is the rule. It would be the lack of immunity that is the exception. The burden of proof is on those who would have you believe, quite fantastically, that there is no immunity.
We know already that 50% of the people who get it are immune.
Afaik 0% of the people who get covid-19 are immune. Some people don't have strong or even noticeable symptoms, but they still get the infection and can spread it around.
Immune people don't get infected and don't spread the virus forward.
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10 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:Your scaremongering is for me like water on a duck's back.
Feel free to live and die in fear, and ask yourself what are you gaining in spreading the fear.
Science is now scaremongering? Right.. continue on the path you have selected for yourself.
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21 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:I think virus mutations are supposed to be weaker than the original.
It would be indeed very puzzling if a second wave would be stronger, but i agree with you about the uncertainty about the immunity.
I don't think that Sweden will be in big trouble, well, i think they chose the best strategy imho.
It's good that you write down what you think. It gives others to correct wrong believes.
That's false. Mutations happen all the time. It was the original mutation which allowed this coronavirus spread the virus from person to perso.
There are probably a large amount of different mutations, which has gone unnoticed as those don't make people more sick. But there are also some mutations / strains of the covid-19 virus, which are thought to be a lot more deadly than the original one.
When it comes to immunity, afaik, nobody really knows if there is immunity and if the immunity covers the dangerous traits of the virus or not.
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2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:How is Sweden doing in comparison with Norway?
Sweden is not doing well when compared to the neighboring countries.
Note these are numbers per million people, which is the correct way to show statistics when populations differ between countries.
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2 hours ago, webfact said:The Palestinians and many countries regard Israel's settlements in the West Bank as illegal under the Geneva Conventions that bar settling on land captured in war.
Netanyahu's plan to annex West Bank is similar to Putin's Annexation of Crimea and continuous war on East Ukraine. Horrific and illegal actions.
It's time for the rest of the world to place very heavy sanctions against Israel. Ban their travel, stop trade with Israel and freeze Israel's and people of Israel assets around the world.
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3 minutes ago, evadgib said:I'd like to see a no notice surprise appearance @ GMB studios on Monday morning where he could neuter an unprepared Piers Morgan on live TV by playing him at his own game. What better way is there to announce that he's back than sorting that Pratt out?
Sounds like the numbers of people who are supporting Johnson are thinning as the time goes by and his actions has been seen.
Perhaps there is hope for UK's future after all. Perhaps this temporary insanity is finally going to be over?
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3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:There’s only one thing to worry about in the matter of this murderous thug being gravely ill.
Which murderous thug will replace him if he croaks?!
The other problem is a country with nuclear weapons, with no clear way forward. Nuclear power with generals fighting who is the toughest of them all to get the authoritarian power.
Killing Saddam and Gaddafi didn't end up well but in chaos. And those countries didn't have nuclear weapons.
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12 minutes ago, JoePai said:Having been on the receiving end he is best placed to lead the country
Only, if he had learned his lessons and he starts listening to the scientists and healthcare professionals, instead of continuing his entertaining, yet useless rethorics.
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11 minutes ago, UbonThani said:
Makes little difference. All short term. Lots of farm burn offs still which are far worse than planes.
Is it really?
Most of the biodegradable material rottens after a while and the process will release CO2 to the atmosphere after some time. It would be great, if farmers would use the extra material to burn it correctly and generate electricity while doing so.
Oil, natural gas, coal are semi permanently stored hydrocarbons, which, when burned, release extra CO2 to increase global warming effects. That's not good in the long term.
Yes, PM10 and PM2.5 and other small particles are annoyance and can cause lung diseases. Correct filtering when burning these, could make a big difference for our wellbing.
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Yes, slowing down the overheated economy is a good thing. With this slowdown, previous humanoids who run aimlessly the rat race are slowly turning back to human beings. I think that is a good thing.
The world was going badly wrong before this pandemic. Moronic populists were gaining power - now we have seen how glueless they are as leaders. Things will change after this is over.
The trickle down economy made the rich even richer and poor even poorer in many parts of the world. I' not too sure, that can continue much longer anymore - or otherwise the ordinary people will make revolutions happen. This time it's not just students who protests, but great middle masses of middle class people who will join in.
The nature looks better, the air looks better, the waters look better. What there is not to love about that.
I don't need the latest iPhone or huge 3D-television in my home. Those are not essential items. I prefer clean air and water much more than latest tech gimmick.
Global reality check is a good thing overall.
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4 hours ago, chessman said:Real lives being lost, people being taken too soon.
While Swedish government is being rather unresponsible, Swedish people have taken their own steps to physically isolate themselves from others. Like seen on that article.
Still Sweden's death per population numbers are 5-10 times higher compared to the neighbouring countries.
The Swedish model towards pandemic doesn't seem to be a good one.
I do hope that the leaders who promote this method, will be hold responsible afterwards.
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18 hours ago, pegman said:
Defending the indefensible. How about Boris shaking hands with everyone? Was that according to scientific advice too?
Question is, did he learn his lesson in the hospital bed or not?
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15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:
“NHS Blood and Transplant is preparing to collect COVID-19 convalescent plasma from people who have recovered from this illness,” a spokeswoman said. “We envisage that this will be initially used in trials as a possible treatment for COVID-19.”
“If fully approved, the trials will investigate whether convalescent plasma transfusions could improve a COVID-19 patient’s speed of recovery and chances of survival,” the blood service said.
I wonder how many plasma donations are required to treat or help to treat coronavirus patients?
I if understand correctly, foreign plasma give the patients "Antibiotics style (for bacterias)" boost to fight the virus, but receivers immune system is not able to copy the immune response from the plasma. Plasma transfusion simply gives more time for the body to learn to cope with the virus.
Perhaps someone more wiser could teach us a bit how this works? @Sheryl ????
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14 minutes ago, webfact said:WASHINGTON (Reuters) - White House adviser Peter Navarro charged on Monday that China may be withholding data about early coronavirus infections because it wants to win the commercial race to create a vaccine.
This is actually how Trump thinks. This is what he would do and he often blames others for doing so (without them actually doing so), what he has in his twisted mind.
Money and power. Nothing else matters to him.
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Happy birthday Queen!
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10 hours ago, mauGR1 said:
Sorry for the silly question, but isn't "normal" flu a corona virus too ?
No.
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44 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:Once the frackers all collapse the price will go back up. Saudi Arabia is being pretty stupid. I can't even think what their strategy is? The shale is still in the ground once they go bankrupt doing this. KSA is seriously hurting in regards to their cash reserves. Theirlast bright idea was to buy 10% of carnival cruise lines.
Wasn't it Russia which started this. They refused to lower their output to which Saudi Arabia responded by increasing their volume.
US shale oil production is first to go as its more expensive way to get oil.
The good part of all of this is that many cities have now a lot clearer skies. When people get used to less polluted air, they might not go back to the dirty past.
USA is still oil independent if it wishes to be. They have capacity of producing enough oil. It just costs a bit more per barrel of oil, compared when buying the oil from abroad.
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1 minute ago, Logosone said:
Same exact mortality rate as the UK as of today.
Based on Johns Hopkins figures.
UK is far ahead of killing her citizens. This is mainly because UK delayed it's actions too long, before it started to apply and tell the citizens about physical distancing.
Like said before. Sweden is a large country with quite few people, while it also has couple of over 1 million people cities.
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16 minutes ago, Logosone said:
The reason why I mention Sweden is that they are the example of a country that has basically done very little. Insignificant testing and only late and half-hearted and very limited social distancing.
So you can use that example to compare against a country like Austria which has done a whole lot of testing and the UK which has done less testing (per capita) but has been strong on social distancing.
Sweden is not doing well.
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2 hours ago, mauGR1 said:
Apparently society is already in big trouble for trusting the experts.
Not the society. A fraction, a loud fraction of the societies are yelling loudly how they don't trust the experts.
I guess, with the help of pandemic, that problem is eventually going away.
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CONFIRMED: Alcohol sales banned until further notice, some businesses allowed to reopen
in Thailand News
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We'll be healthier than before, once alcohol ban is lifted.
Not a bad time to stop drinking altogether and spend the time and money to something else?
Some say that it takes 3 weeks to change habits, good or bad. Now we have ample of time to do just that.