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2 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Here is why they do it:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nurse-tests-positive-for-covid-19-shortly-after-getting-vaccinated/ar-BB1ck8FY?ocid=spartanntp

 

 

LOL, I honestly cannot believe the stupidity here, some people obviously only read the headline and not the whole article where it clearly says:

"Patients don't immediately develop COVID-19 protection after being vaccinated.

"We know from the vaccine clinical trials that it’s going to take about 10 to 14 days for you to start to develop protection from the vaccine," Ramers said.

Even after those 10 to 14 days, patients still need a second vaccine dose for full protection. "That first dose we think gives you somewhere around 50%, and you need that second dose to get up to 95%," Ramers added."

Most vaccines state that it takes 3 to 6 weeks to develop full protection 

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Dr Opas Karnkawinpong, director-general of the Disease Control Department, said the Covid-19 vaccines are still new and their effectiveness have still not been determined. He added that it still too early to say whether an inoculated person can be considered safe enough to travel.

Absolute BS. There is plenty of research and data from the clinical trials that show, that those who have been vaccinated are not only protected from the virus they also don't spread it as the antibodies and T-cells kill it or at the very minimum reduce the viral load.  

These cons happen all too often with unwary tourists/investors losing all their money while the corrupt officials and land developers walk away with pocket fulls of cash, similar story to The Waterfront Suites and Residences in Pattaya.  

I see the website is still live: https://www.thepeaksresidence.com

15 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Japan and Singapore are the first of many. 

And Canada

4 hours ago, KamalaRider said:

Anyone believing Thailand has the Covid-19 under control is delusional. The virus is airborne,  just Google what type of complications that poses.

More nonsense being spouted. 

From WHO website:

Based on the available evidence, the COVID-19 virus is transmitted between people through close contact and droplets, not by airborne transmission. The people most at risk of infection are those who are in close contact with a COVID-19 patient or who care for COVID-19 patients.

3 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

We do know, however, that in that £81 billion includes charges for HS2, Crossrail, London sewer upgrades and other NIPs which offer no benefit to Scotland and which do not impact the Barnett formula.

Utter rubbish! You might want to read this before spouting such nonsense:

https://www.snp.org/higher-standard-of-living-scotland-tax/

11 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Does that come from the same source which claimed the UK pays 350 Million pounds a week to the EU

Not something i've ever claimed so not sure why you would mention that. 

Scot's pay more tax per capita than people in  England but on average they receive an extra £3000 per head through free education, free perscriptions etc.

"From free medicine to free education, taxpayers in Scotland get the best deal anywhere in the UK." Quote from the SNP

6 hours ago, Neeranam said:

They will lose a lot of money and might be kicked out their summer home. The grouse will be smiling. 

Might want to check your facts before posting nonsense.

"Tax revenue generated in Scotland amounts to about £66 billion, including North Sea oil revenue, but it benefits from about £81 billion in public spending. That means Scotland benefits from £15 billion more than it puts in. This is possible because the UK pools and shares resources across the entire country." Infact England contributes approximately 85% of the entire UK's GDP

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Talk about putting the cart before the horse. Not one person ( other than in trials ) has been vaccinated yet and 8 billion to go.

 

Lots of chinese have been getting the vaccine for the past month with long queues at clinics, shots are prices at about $30. I also believe russia has also started vaccinating it citizens.  

46 minutes ago, webfact said:

A woman suspected of being mentally disturbed on Thursday threatened to throw her baby from the third-floor balcony of an apartment she lived in in Bangkok before rescuers rushed up and saved the baby.

"suspected of being mentally disturbed" I think it's safe to confirm she's suffering from retard-ation.

9 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

In a startling moment during his Michigan rally Tuesday, President Donald Trump implied that the militia that attempted to kidnap and kill Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI) was maybe or maybe not all that big of a problem.

“People are entitled to say maybe it was a problem, maybe it wasn’t,” Trump told his rally.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trump-says-militia-that-sought-to-kidnap-and-michigans-gov-whitmer-was-maybe-a-problem-maybe-it-wasnt/

Trump responded, "Proud Boys – stand back and stand by. But I'll tell you what, somebody's got to do something about antifa and the left."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/29/trump-debate-white-supremacists-stand-back-stand-by/3583339001/

At 2020's first (and perhaps only) presidential debate, President Trump's plea to his "people" to "go into the polls and watch very carefully" got the attention of voting advocates and militia members alike. 

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-call-militia-watch-polling-places-raises-fears-voter-intimidation-1539900

You have a very poor understanding of english if you think any of that language could be considered "encouraging of right-wing extremists". 

Where you mention Proud Boys, Trump also said when asked: "Are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacist and Militia groups and to say they need to stand down and not add to the violence?" Trump replied "Sure I'm willing to do that, almost everything I see is from the left wing, not from the right wing. I'm willing to do anything, I want to see peace". 

1 hour ago, Natai Beach said:

Past 4 months or so? 
 

A bit late mate. 40,000 had already dead by June 1. 

 

And the U.K. testing numbers were made up and exaggerated. Just google it. It was a balls up until May.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-04/boris-johnson-says-eat-out-drive-may-have-spread-covid-in-u-k

 

I am not lying. Perhaps the politicians you are listening to are?

 

 

I have googled and nothing appears about " U.K. testing numbers were made up and exaggerated" 

You claimed the UK's infection rate is one of the worst but I have already provided you with the stats that show we are ranked 39th, nowhere near the worst, not even in the top ten so yes you were lying. 

I'm not disputing the fact that the government should have taken more drastic action such as closing our boarders to all international travel, mandating masks to be worn in public and temperatures to be taken when entering businesses. I also believe the law enforcement haven't been tough enough on people not following the rules.

6 hours ago, Natai Beach said:

No, it is very true. 

it is also true that the U.K. didn’t test enough. 
So the truenumber of infected people hasn’t been revealed. It is much higher than the official figures. That is part of the reason the death rate to infection rate in the U.K. is so high compared to nearly every other country. 

You are talking utter nonsense. Testing increased at an incredible rate considering no one knew what to expect and we have had one of the highest number of tests per million for the past 4 months or so. In fact the only countries that have done more tests per million are those with very small populations of less than 10 million people!

The UK's infection rate is 39rd in the world per million, so nowhere near the worst, might want to check your facts before spreading lies.

Deaths per 1 million population:

4 minutes ago, chilly07 said:

Because there is an idiot in charge whose strings are pulled by an evil <deleted> who is peddling herd immunity. Simple. Bit like the USA!

Oh hear we go starting the conspiracy nonsense again. The government are not going for herd immunity which has never been proven to work especially on a virus that mutates or has been indicated in recent news there is a sharp decline in antibodies after 3 months of those who have already been infected. 

16 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:

The UK have fudged the books a tad by eliminating anyone passing away from Covid after 28 days. Yet the question remains, why are they still suffering from such catastrophic numbers? 

 

Even in the first wave, they suffered badly. Now onto the second wave, compared to many countries with equal covid numbers, they are still seeing masses dying. 

 

What on earth is going on here? 

 

How on earth have these Asian countries like Singapore, or Arab countries like UAE managed to have such small numbers of deaths despite huge covid infections per 100,000 people? 

While I agree that the UK's  mortality rate during the first wave was terrible at approximately 14% we are not the worst. 

The UK's mortality rate for the second wave is much better with reported deaths well below 1% of confirmed cases on most days so please don't spread misinformation. 

It's sad that the government are more bothered about spending hundreds of billions of baht on new submarines than they are about using some of that money to investigate and improve Thailands dismal road safety.