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    Denied entry- Second attempt coming up

    in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits

    Posted · Edited by MrMilk

    Thanks for all the replies guys.

     

    First of all I am well aware that I use the wrong Visa. It was the correct Visa in the beginning but as time pasted and things developed with my girl I should applied for a proper Visa earlier.

    I am in the prosess of getting married so hopefully it will be in place in not to long.

     

    Its not a question about if I will try to enter again now. I am ready to give it a new go and the ticket is booked. The risk-reward speaks for itself.

     

    What I do now is preparing for the consequences if it goes south.

     

    What I really would like to get a answer to is about the flight. If I get refused flying will this happen at check-in (before immigration) or can it also happen at boarding (after immigration)?

     

    If it happen at check-in I can just walk out still having my Vietnamese Visa. If happening at boarding I have a big problem regarding my expire date on my passport.

     

    What happen when I try to enter Thailand is completely out of my control. I have all my papers, USD in cash, travel insurance printed, and a new haircut. Thats pretty much all I can do.

     

     

     

    Denied entry- Second attempt coming up

    in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits

    Posted · Edited by MrMilk

    1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

    OP, in relation to airline. The airline will look in your passport for visa or reentry permit. Not have one they will request to see onward flight within 30 days (most likely). Also check expiry of pp. Think you need talk with airline after which grab a bus.

    I only have a return ticket to Ho Chi Minh on the 25th Jan that I purchased before my bounce-back trip ????

    Denied entry- Second attempt coming up

    in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits

    Posted · Edited by MrMilk

    Thanks for all the replies guys.

     

    I fly with Vietjet.

    Been in contact with them via phone and the lady I spoke to was not sure. After some back and forth she concluded "No, probaly not". I sent 2 emails, but 4 days later I still havent received a reply.

    From reading their TC it say "normally" require 6 months which made me decide to just book the ticket and take the risk of being turned down. Its only 1600 thb and defiently the easiest/cheapest option to try to get to Thailand.

     

    If I get denied to fly, will this happen at check-in (before immigration) , or can it happen at boarding (after immigration)?

     

    If its before immigration then no worries, 1600 thb lighter but thats all too. If it happens after immigration I assume it can get quiet messy and expensive.

     

    I contacted the embassy in Hanoi the first week here. I was told 2-3 weeks wait until the passport would arrive. I also had to wait for almost 1 week to get an appointment (consular hours). 

    This again would mean around a month in Vietnam, and still I wouldnt be sure if I received the passport before my Visa expired.... 

     

    The passport will be renew in Bangkok (If I get there).

     

    Seems overly risky to leave Vietnam with bus. Stuck in between immigration in Vietnam and Cambodia with a expired passport sounds unsafe. 

    Also if I get entry to Cambodia from Vietnam, but then refused entry in Thailand, I will once again stand at immigration in Cambodia needing a entry stamp.

    Sounds pricy and unsafe.

     

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    Denied entry- Second attempt coming up

    in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits

    Posted · Edited by MrMilk

    Okay, this is a messy situation.

     

    I came to Thailand in Nov 18 and been here more or less since then.

     

    In 2019 I had:

     

    *2 Visa runs via land to Cambodia. 

    *1 Visa run via air to Cambodia.

    *1 leave to home (Norway) for 3 weeks.

     

    Every time I have gotten the 30 day Visa at entry and after 30 day I go to the Immigration and received a 30 day extention.

     

    On my latest Visa I overstayed 42 days.

     

    Went to Don Muang on the 28.12, paid 20.000 thb overstay fine, and took my flight to Vietnam.

     

    On the 3rd Jan I arrived at Don Muang again. Went to the IO (female in her 30`s). She asked why I came to Thailand and I replied "vacation". She did not say anything more other than "please follow me Sir".

    I was told to sit down and wait outside the Immigration office.

    The IO (male 40`s) were questioning a older guy. From what I heard he was told to get the proper Visa next time but they let him in.

     

    Now the IO grabbed my passport. He flipped through it while shaking his head over and over. The IO officer behind the desk called another IO (male early 20`s) and now they were both shaking their head. At this point I realized it didnt look good.

     

    He called me over to his desk. "IO: Why are you in Thailand?" ,"Me: vacation", "IO: You spent almost 400 days in Thailand!" "Me: quiet", "IO: You overstay Visa too!" "Me: Start explaining", IO cut me off, "IO: You can not come here anymore on a tourist Visa", "Me: Start explaining that I am about to get married and will get a proper Visa" IO cut me off again. "IO: Today you will not come in. Go back and get a proper Visa and come back later".

     

    I was then taken into the office. The young IO filled out papers before a AirAsia rep came and escorted me to another office were papers got signed and I received a stamp in my passport. Blue stamp with the code 12:2

     

    I was taken to the detention center in the basement where I immediately begin to search flights. At this point it was around 1 AM so my options were limited. After a couple of hours I found a site granting emergency Visa for Vietnam. After a couple of calls back and forth with the lady in Hanoi I decided to take out my Mastercard and send $230 her way. 30 min later I received a stamped Visa in my inbox. 

    The flight Bangkok- Ho Chi Minh with AirAsia left me another $100 lighter.

    I walk to the security showing them my Visa and air-ticket. They call the AirAsia rep immediately. She arrives a hour later and after a short talk I am getting ready for my 7.40 flight back to Ho Chi Minh.

     

    Here comes the interesting part:

     

    My Norwegian passport expires on 9.7.20.

     

    I contacted the Thai embassy requesting to apply for a Visa but was declined since its less than 6 months on my passport.

    I have searced iatatravelcentre.com and it shows I can enter Thailand.

    I contacted the Norwegian embassy and they say it can go both ways all up to the IO.

     

    Since I am desperate to get back into Thailand, got all my stuff in my apartment, girlfriend, about to get married, etc, I am going to take the chance to enter again.

     

    Booked a flight Ho Chi Minh- Utapao already.

     

    My question is then:

     

    *If the air company decide to refuse me to fly, will this happen already at the check-in counter or at boarding? Since Vietnam require a min 6 month passport I can only imagine how tiring the situation will be if I get stamped out of Vietnam and then being denied to fly out.

     

    *If they refuse entry at Utapao, will I be held at Utapao or transfered somewhere else?

     

    *Will I have the option to fly into Seoul or Norway if refused entry and not being able to fullfill the Vietnamese entry rules?

     

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