MICHAELDUTCH

9 hours ago, Myran said:

And you are absolutely sure the process is the same for every country? Because my experience with getting the same document from my country wasn't at all that easy. First, you have to get a document from our tax department. Then, you need two witnesses in your home country (but not family) sign a paper swearing that you're not married, and then they have to send the original of that document here. Finally, you can take these documents to the embassy in Bangkok.

 

Don't assume that everything is the same for every country just because it was easy for you.

i dont assume every country is the same...but i know 90% it is same for getting married in Thailand

My country ALSO want 2 witnesses AND taxpaper document..........however thats easy done FOR ME
Just fill in 2 names (friends) and "sign"
Tax document can usely get from internet to see your yearly income...and print it (and "fix" it)
Also  birthcertificate and Adress document which can be sent by E mail 

If people are smart enough anything can be done if you take the time to do
 

"Marriage papers take too long time from 'home'.""
" embassy takes too long":

I got married last week....*because i must go back for personal business.
I have my marry certificate and khor 2. registration
These papers gives me the opportunity to come back based of having a spouse (COE application + all requirements)
Why "marriage paper takes so long from "home".......
i did it just by E mail and print it out ,give the papers to the embassy and get directly the "free to marry"
doc.
Go to the amphur....with the translations...and marry ! DONE

 

14 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Do you need to leave Thailand?

When you have all the papers, an official thai marriage at the Amphoe will provide you same day with the required thai marriage certificates, and you can then go next day to your local IO and apply for the 60-day extension of stay to visit your thai wife.

Returning to Thailand (even when married) will be a headache...

 

Thats correct.....but unfortunely i have to go back for personal reason.
Anyway i can return with or without a headache.I am also aware of the 60 day extension
I hope to return quickly..but the requirements are at this moment crazy.I hope in the next 6 month the borders will open and maybe the requirments will be less

I live in Min Buri and i am on amnesty till 26 september.I will leave Thailand on the 24 september.
I also will get married and all my papers have been approved.
If i d ont marry then i will be a regular tourist and have for the time beiing NO chance to come back
If i marry BEFORE i go back.....i can go back to see my wife *with all the requirements.


 

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The risks of leaving Thailand are at the moment while Thailand is under Emergency Decree, you would have to apply for a Certificate of Entry (in the country to travel to) - this may or may not be issued and you could find yourself stuck outside of Thailand in a long queue of people waiting to get back in.

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 I am fully aware of all the requirements for coming back to Thailand (having a spouse/married)
 I must go back to my country in the coming months.
 I pressume that if i am NOT married........my chances for coming back are very slim
 If i marry BEFORE i go back to my country.......my chances are better (although many requirements
but not impossible)

 

 

 

 

 

I am in Thailand now and i stay with my girlfriend for already 6 month up 
So yes ...i know the procedures for getting married and what documents are required.
My question was
Do i have an advantage for returning back  into Thailand ( because i am married/on the last day of the amnesty extension)

Can i get an extension based on marrage (again the last day of the amnesty expires) of 60 /30 days?

 

I am planning to marry within 2 weeks with my thai girlfriend
Because of the Covid situation i hope to have a advantage for getting back into Thailand with my marry documents.
Also i try to get a 60 day extension based on married (before the amnesty expires)
At this moment i am on a tourist exemption and using the amnesty till end of july.
Do you think i have an advantage to get married (before the amnesty end) and can get a permission for entry later?
Do you think i can get a 60 day extension based on married on the last day?

The Thai government says it will lift all remaining business and activity lockdowns on July 1, according to the National Security Council chief.

“This includes interprovincial and international travel, as well as the end of emergency decree and curfew.”

The lift of all restrictions, imposed under the country’s emergency decree, would be a “complete reopening of the country”. Officials and the CCSA will spend June getting ready for this milestone in the country’s relatively successful Covid-19 strategy.

“Authorities will have serious discussions because after the emergency decree ends, other laws will be used instead.”

National Security Council secretary-general General Somsak Rungsita maintained that people’s cooperation is important.

“This concerns the use of face masks, social distancing, hand wash and limited activities. As long as the disease is spreading worldwide, we will have to fight against it for a while.”

The general said that the emergency decree will remain until the end of June and the ban on international travel will continue until then. A third phase of reopenings is scheduled to be put in place for June 1 – an announcement on the lifting of phase three restrictions is expected tomorrow.

It is also expected that curfew hours will also be shortened for June. Some of the restrictions and paperwork required for interprovincial travel will also be eased during June.

Business operators and customers will still be be required to use the Thai Chana mobile app to check ins and check outs of businesses permitted to reopen during the next month.

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Foreign tourists have been complaining for weeks now on social media regarding alleged confusion, lack of social distancing, grueling wait times, confusing red tape and forms required for a visa extension for those who are unable due to a variety of factors to leave Thailand in the midst of the Covid-19 Coronavirus crisis in Thailand.

So, what is the solution?

The Pattaya News has had dozens of e-mails, messages and questions regarding the visa situation and as the actual news released has been minimal, we have not written much about the situation to this point, other than acknowledging that the Thai Government is aware of the issue and it was being discussed at National levels.

Here is what we know so far:

As early as March 20th the Thai Tourism Minister, Phiphat Ratchakitprakarn, had spoken in public to the press stating that he was asking for clemency for the estimated 500,000 tourists who were in Thailand and approaching the end of their visas. Many of them could not return to their countries due to cancelled flights although some of them stated that they would prefer to ride the situation out in Thailand which, so far, has been calmer than many European countries and America in terms of numbers of people infected with the Covid-19 Coronavirus.

Mr. Phiphat said that he was approaching both senior Immigration officials and the Thai Cabinet for further clarity regarding the situation and to ensure all sides were aware of the escalating situation.

This was over two weeks ago. In the time since, several solutions have been brought up, from thirty day extensions or more, to paying at the airport when one can finally leave, to less paperwork or to completing an extension and paying for it online to encourage social distancing.

Bureau deputy spokesman Phakkhaphong Saiubon insisted that online applications are not allowed for tourists seeking an extension, however, due to national security concerns at the end of March.

In the meantime, also due to alleged National security concerns, more paperwork requirements have arisen at some Immigration centers, even going so far as to asking for the owners of hotels or landlords to leave the comfort of their homes during the current situation and go to a bustling Immigration Office with the stuck tourist to sign paperwork and have an interview. Letters from embassies, many also closed for routine services, were also requested. For the latter situation, many embassies cooperated and were able to issue letters over the internet and help their citizens.

At the moment, Immigration gives tourists, unable to fly back to their home countries, or to another destination, a 30 day extension of stay, providing they can provide a ‘visa extension letter’ from their embassy. They also require proof that they cannot leave the country, usually in the form of a cancelled flight ticket. This service generally costs 1,900 baht. Extending past this date, especially if a tourist had previously extended their holiday before the Covid-19 situation, has proven more difficult and most are being provided 7 to 15 day stamps, depending on their unique situation and the Immigration office they are visiting.

It is also worth noting that Immigration agents are working extremely hard during the overall situation and are at just as much risk for contacting the virus as foreigners while assisting as many as they can within the confines of the current rules set.

So, will the rules change?

On March 24, 2020, a proposal was made, likely originally started by the Tourism Minister, to extend visas to June to assist tourists to the Thai Cabinet.

Contrary to some early statements in the press, the proposal was not approved in its initial form but multiple details still have to be ironed out to protect both the interests of Thailand and National Security as well as assist foreigners.

Speaking to Thai PBS on April 3, deputy ministry spokesman Natapanu Nopakun provided an update on the proposal to grant automatic visa extensions to foreign tourists stranded in Thailand due COVID-19. He had also spoken at a daily press conference which he gives in English daily earlier in the week about the situation, also telling anxious foreigners a solution was coming and that Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-Cha was aware of the situation and actively working towards a solution.

Mr. Nopakun said the government understands the situation and that granting foreigners automatic visa extensions is “in the pipeline”. However, he stated that the exact details still needed time to be discussed and approved and that the entire situation was a very sensitive issue. He did, however, say that the Nation would do everything within its power to come to a solution for all involved.

Meanwhile, many Immigration offices are doing everything they can within their control to make a difficult situation better. In Jomtien, Immigration officers have been setting up additional tents and fans, providing better social distancing measures, ensuring temperature checks and hand Sanitizer for all entering the office and also protecting Immigration agents with proper spacing, face shields and protective equipment.

They have even been seen handing out complementary water and face masks at times to foreigners waiting to speak to agents. Immigration officers are well aware of the situation but wanted to stress to local Chonburi tourists visiting Immigration that they have no ability to change National policy and must simply follow the orders they can within the best of their ability.

They have also stressed to expat full time residents to conduct their 90 day check-in process online, although there have been some complaints that the online portal is difficult or unreliable to use on social media by some expats.

In closing, it is likely we will hear more on this situation later in the week but for the time being local Immigration officers are doing the best they can in a difficult situation as National leaders work out the details of a future plan. It is worth noting that due to a national Holiday on Monday, April 6th, Chakri Day, that is is unlikely any resolution will com early in the week.