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52 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said:

And the opening of the whole country within 120 days, is that still for sure? 

As long as it's always a 120 days then yes, it's for sure. 

2 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

It was all a MISUNDERSTANDING !

No. It was a funny angle.

7 hours ago, ukrules said:

This is how wars begin.

That's why we elected an army generalissimo. He must be good at least in one thing. If it's war they want, it's war they'll get. ????

13 hours ago, ezzra said:

I don't get one thing, (well, among others) these tourists are suppose to be fully vaccinated and a negative PCR test 72 hours prior to departure, so how come several of them are testing positive when the arrive here? that i'd like to know...

You can bump into a virus host and get infected in that 72 hour period. They should be valid until you walk out from the testing center.

I'm sure they are all experts. They should only comment on the space program or submarines as it's harmless to people.

23 hours ago, Robs5ct said:

It's understandable. BKK is in lockdown. People find their way.

On Samui all restaurants are open. You can have glas of wine with your dinner.

Bars, clubs and massage parlours are open - with 1.5 cm distance or less - lol.

What a contrast to the rest of Thailand. 

But we know where this leads to. Sooner or later.  

Kind of self destruction. Amazing TH

Everything you write here is kinda true, and yet only a handful of cases here every now and then, and none of them were serious. How is this possible? I have no idea. You might say the lack of testing. Sure they don't test enough to find cases, but the hospitals are empty. You can hide case numbers, but you can't hide people dying on ventilators. I thought that songkran travel will be a flare-up in cases as the island was kinda full. There were 20 flights from Bangkok during sonkran. The result? Less than 10 cases. Back then PCR test was not mandatory to enter the island. In fact, you can still enter the island without PCR test by ferry. I seriously have not the slightest clue how Samui can preventing the infections, since they aren't doing anything special here other than mask mandate and temperature checks.

Since Thailand is the HUB of Astra production with 20 million doses output monthly, and should be a supplier for SE Asian nations.... Well it still doesn't make sense. Every time a shippment coming to Thailand there's a photo with happy ministers. Where is prayut or anutin when these millions of doses leaving the SB factory?

1 hour ago, Dialemco said:

If the Chinese vaccines are ineffective does anyone know what is happening in China?

Does anyone know what is happening in Thailand? As soon as we can answer this we'll be closer to your original question.

Also don't forget that "four days until the reopening of Samui, Koh Pha Ngan and Koh Tao. Today, these three islands again reported zero infections with only four people in hospital."

Black Club in Samui is full almost every day. Hundreds of people are drinking (obviously no masks) You can enter Samui on a ferry without PCR tests, and yet zero cases reported for days and only a handful for months. How is this possible? Knowing that at least 3 flights are coming here from Bangkok every day. Bangkok Airways suspended most of its domestic flights except for Samui. They say it's a precautionary measure. They don't even fly to Phuket anymore to curb spreading the virus, but they still fly to Samui. How is this possible? Does it make any sense to someone? Is Samui really immune to this virus?

3 hours ago, digibum said:

Although I don’t want to wade into all of the Delta variant debates, it was always a bad idea.  
 

1.  The governor of Phuket recently made a comment about not being able to adequately staff the land checkpoint.  It was an off handed comment but how the heck do you have a sandbox with a porous border?  
 

2.  Allowing unvaccinated children into Thailand just makes zero sense. 

3.  This sandbox has nothing to do with average Thai people.  It’s all about the businesses and landlords.  It’s a Thai version of a corporate bailout with the locals being used as guinea pigs. 
 

4.  There are still tons of unvaccinated people in Phuket.  Anybody not registered as a resident isn’t eligible to get vaccinated.  That means a lot of people on tourist visas have been unable to get vaccines.  Recently, when they opened up registration for people to get vaccines, so many people tried to access the website they crashed it.  That means a lot of people are still unvaccinated.  That 70% number they’re quoting is not accurate.  
 

5.  There was never a published plan on how they will react if things go wrong.  Like, how do they shut down the sandbox?  How do they handle a sudden surge in infections?  How do they handle a sandbox passenger testing positive?  I’ve had better backup plans for small software deployments than the Phuket government seems to have for a major medical emergency.   
 

6.  Most of the new cases they’re seeing in Phuket are coming from Thais who are coming to Thailand from southern provinces.  Yet, there are no plans to address this.  Goes to my point #5 about not having a backup plan.  
 

7.  Possibly yet another extension of #5, the plans Phuket and TAT proposed last year (and we’re shot down by the CCSA) were so monumentally ill conceived that it’s hard for me to trust anyone in decision making in either of those two entities.  It was clearly apparent then that they didn’t care about the health of anybody and only cared about tourist revenue which makes me believe that the current plan is the absolute minimum they had to do to get the CCSA blessing and not the best that could be done.  
 

 

Whoa! This article should be published in every newspaper and online forums, as it sums up the problems and the inconsistencies perfectly. Two more points to it, if I may.

1, Unvaccinated locals can enter with a PCR test no older than 7 (SEVEN) days, but fully vaccinated tourists-expats must do 3 overpriced tests, the first one at arrival. Does it make any sense? This should be trated like AIDS tests. It's obsolate as soon as you left the testing station.

2, I guess the girls from Issaan are trying to get back to welcome the foreign arrivals. I'm sure they are fully vaccinated and could afford the PCR test. If they don't want to cross the bridge there's a 500meter waterways between the mainland and Phuket. Do they check this? I doubt it. But hey, whatever happens in the sandbox stays in the sandbox. Right Moronautin?

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Ah the old Bell curve trick for grading students is now being used for tracking Covid. Makes perfect sense now....????

Or It's more like a Bollinger Band, where the upper band and the lower band can deviate from the center line in great values. ie. the center line MA (moving average) can show 10%, while the upper line shows 25%, and the lower line at 5%. Basically you can't be wrong between 5% and 25%, since every answer is correct.

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

will this mean they are full of antibodies?

Not necessarily, it depends on many factors but it should show some degree of antibodies.

You may also hear it called a serology test.

The antibody test isn’t checking for the virus itself. Instead, it looks to see whether your immune system -- your body’s defense against illness -- has responded to the infection.

and if they are then tested will they show positive for Covid or not?

PCR test should show negative results after 2-3 weeks of infection.

18 minutes ago, faraday said:

@BookShe

 

It's behind a paywall, are you able to change that please?

 

 

Wait. Maybe it's loading for me from cache. I just saved to a file.

Kati Kariko Helped Shield the World From the Coronavirus - The New York Times.html

1 minute ago, faraday said:

 The article from the NYT which you linked above, is only available for subscribers.

 

 

Interesting ????. I just clicked on the link and it opened up. Also copied the link and pasted in a different browser and it opened up too. I'm not a subscriber to NYpost.

2 minutes ago, faraday said:

@BookShe

 

It's behind a paywall, are you able to change that please?

 

 

Sorry I'm not sure I understand.