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4 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

The problem will be if they reach their predicted worst case numbers of 28000 per day case numbers, which can happen pretty quickly with this variant.Personally I don't think they are prepared.

How do you know we haven't reached this point? With limited testing and people avoiding being tested, the official number might be the tip of the iceberg. To be fair. The hospitalization numbers and especially mortality is not even near compared to other countries. If we can avoid being hospitalized or even worse dying to this virus, the daily positive numbers are meaningless as far as I'm concerned.

21 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

To be fair, the 50% efficacy rate that one reads about for sinovac is against catching the virus. I have read, but do not have a link, that efficacy against moderate and serious symptoms and death is very high, as it is for all the vaccines.

This is a headline in Hungary:

People vaccinated with the Chinese vaccine have been warned: "protect yourself as if you had not been vaccinated"

3 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Sorry, but I am really think there is something strange going on with these figures again

967, 985, 965. If the next two days are 960 to 980 then someone's a fiddling

Same thing happened to my country. (Hungary) They had limited testing at the begginning so the daily new cases never went up above 1000. What happened next is....... Hungary was leading the daily death rate / capita for at least 2 weeks. If you look at the death / million Hungary is Nr 4 on the list of countries. Number 2 if you don't count Gibraltar and San Marino following Chech Republic. Gibraltar is not a country. San Marino neither.

I was posting this to a wrong thread yesterday, sorry for the re-post.

Is this really happening???

After one year into the pandemic, what did Thailand do to mitigate the damage other than…..

1, coming up with bogus and idiotic ideas every week, such as : travel bubble, Phuket model, STV visa, golf quarantine, ASQs, area quarantine, Hub of everything, target therapy, and sandbox.

After all this brain farting for a year, at least 16 (Sixteen)!!!!! people arrived in Phuket the other week, so I guess it’s a success.

2, After one year into the pandemic, and after numerous lockdowns, alcohol bans, curfews, and controversial policies, which pretty much killed an entire industry (tourism), we are back to square one. 

3, After one year into the pandemic and a year-long chance of learning from other countries, what is working and what isn’t, they still couldn’t come up

with a protocol for testing people. Charging 3-5000 Thb for a test, admitting the positive cases to a hospital bed, and then refusing to take more tests because of shortages of beds?

I know that is free tests are also available, but there are many articles about people are avoiding being tested, because they are afraid of forced hospitalization and probably huge hospital bills.

Is getting prepared in LOS illegal? One year was not enough to get prepared? It’s comforting to know that Thailand has 3-400,000 test kits available. Really? That’s all they have?

Some smaller countries are testing more than that per day. 

4, After one year into the pandemic and the clear message that only vaccination (and not travel bubbles and area quarantines) can bring back normalcy, where is the evidence that Thailand was working hard to sign agreements with all available vaccine producers? (most countries signed these agreements 6 months ago with various companies without knowing who can deliver at the end)

Thailand was opted out of a COVAX program that delivers vaccines to poorer countries. The result? Every neighboring SE Asian country and even Africa is well ahead of Thailand, in terms of vaccination.

5, After one year into pandemic Thailand, just allowed the private sector to obtain other available vaccines. The request was made some 5 months ago.

I would be surprised if they could pull this off, as most vaccine producers have limited supplies, and I’m sure it’s been reserved and paid, for the next 6-12 months.

So unless these private companies are willing to pay 5 or 10 times more for a single dose I don’t see this option viable.

Rumors about Astra-Zeneca being produced locally is great news, however being an expat and knowing the way things go in LOS, I have my doubts.

6, After one year into the pandemic, is it a coincidence or just bad luck, that the only “Widely” available vaccine is Sinovac? The vaccine which is the least effective of any available jabs.

https://apnews.com/article/beijing-immunizations-chengdu-coronavirus-pandemic-china-675bcb6b5710c7329823148ffbff6ef9

Is it a coincidence that CP group (the biggest conglomerate in Thailand) is a large stakeholder in this company? https://www.kaohoon.com/content/413496

7,  Ohh dear Songran. After one year into the pandemic didn’t they learn that human contacts are the culprits of spreading the virus? I’m very satisfied that they quickly found

the new scapegoats “entertainment venues” (awesome work Sherlocks), but the math just doesn’t add up. I’m not an expert, but using only common sense…. 

entertainment venues = few hundred contacts vs. Songran traveling = Millions!!!! I might be wrong though, and I just hope that one year of sacrifice and relative safety was not for nothing.

If it’s really the UK strain that causing this new uptick in cases, we might be looking into a very dark 2021. This strain is devastating Europe even though they are well ahead of their vaccination program.

As of today, Thailand has the wrong protocol of handling test positives, no effective vaccine, and yet encouraging millions of people to travel across the country. 

Why are the borders still closed? What’s the point of that and at the same time letting Millions travel? Why the lie about individual province restrictions? There are NONE. 

People are reporting worry-free travel to any of those provinces that announced restrictions. 

8. Only one question left. Are they doing all this on purpose, or they are really that stupid?

Is this really happening???

After one year into the pandemic, what did Thailand do to mitigate the damage other than…..

1, coming up with bogus and idiotic ideas every week, such as : travel bubble, Phuket model, STV visa, golf quarantine, ASQs, area quarantine, Hub of everything, target therapy.

After all this brain farting for a year, at least 16 (Sixteen)!!!!! people arrived in Phuket the other week, so I guess it’s a success.

2, After one year into the pandemic, and after numerous lockdowns, alcohol bans, curfews, and controversial policies, which pretty much killed an entire industry,

we are back to square one. 

3, After one year into the pandemic and a year-long chance of learning from other countries, what is working and what isn’t, they still couldn’t come up

with a protocol for testing people. Charging 3-5000 Thb for a test, admitting the positive cases to a hospital bed, and then refusing to take more tests because of shortages of beds?

I know that is free tests are also available, but there are many articles about people are avoiding being tested, because they are afraid of forced hospitalization and probably huge hospital bills.

Is getting prepared in LOS illegal? One year was not enough to get prepared? It’s comforting to know that Thailand has 3-400,000 test kits available. Really? That’s all they have?

Some smaller countries are testing more than that per day. 

4, After one year into the pandemic and the clear message that only vaccination (and not travel bubbles and area quarantines) can bring back normalcy, where is the evidence that Thailand was working hard to sign agreements with all available vaccine producers? (most countries signed these agreements 6 months ago with various companies without knowing who can deliver at the end)

Thailand was opted out of a COVAX program that delivers vaccines to poorer countries. The result? Every neighboring SE Asian country and even Africa is well ahead of Thailand, in terms of vaccination.

5, After one year into pandemic Thailand, just allowed the private sector to obtain other available vaccines. The request was made some 5 months ago.

I would be surprised if they could pull this off, as most vaccine producers have limited supplies, and I’m sure it’s been reserved and paid, for the next 6-12 months.

So unless these private companies are willing to pay 5 or 10 times more for a single dose I don’t see this option viable.

Rumors about Astra-Zeneca being produced locally is great news, however being an expat and knowing the way things go in LOS, I have my doubts.

6, After one year into the pandemic, is it a coincidence or just bad luck, that the only “Widely” available vaccine is Sinovac? The vaccine which is the least effective of any available jabs.

https://apnews.com/article/beijing-immunizations-chengdu-coronavirus-pandemic-china-675bcb6b5710c7329823148ffbff6ef9

Is it a coincidence that CP group (the biggest conglomerate in Thailand) is a large stakeholder in this company? https://www.kaohoon.com/content/413496

7,  Ohh dear Songran. After one year into the pandemic didn’t they learn that human contacts are the culprits of spreading the virus? I’m very satisfied that they quickly found

the new scapegoats “entertainment venues” (awesome work Sherlocks), but the math just doesn’t add up. I’m not an expert, but using only common sense…. 

entertainment venues = few hundred contacts vs. Songran traveling = Millions!!!! I might be wrong though, and I just hope that one year of sacrifice and relative safety was not for nothing.

If it’s really the UK strain that causing this new uptick in cases, we might be looking into a very dark 2021. This strain is devastating Europe even though they are well ahead of their vaccination program.

As of today, Thailand has the wrong protocol of handling test positives, no effective vaccine, and yet encouraging millions of people to travel across the country. 

Why are the borders still closed? What’s the point of that and at the same time letting Millions travel? Why the lie about individual province restrictions? There are NONE. 

People are reporting worry-free travel to any of those provinces that announced restrictions. 

8. Only one question left. Are they doing all this on purpose, or they are really that stupid?