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9 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

It is allowed for the first extension of stay application. The immigration order allowing for proof of income by showing transfers into the country shows it. But some immigration offices will not accept it.

You have to prove the transfers came from abroad. You will need a bank statement showing they came from abroad. If they do not show they came from you may have to get credit advices from the bank for the proof.

I heard some immigration offices want to see where the money comes from. What do they accept as proof for that? I saw that you recently did your extension. What did they ask for?

On 8/8/2020 at 9:34 AM, ubonjoe said:

That is the requirement for extensions based upon marriage. For one based upon being the parent of a Thai it is not required.

What if one has a Thai wife and a Thai child. Can you apply based on the Thai child and therefor skip the 60 days money in the bank rule?

On 7/30/2020 at 10:00 AM, ubonjoe said:

If the border crossing are not open and flights out of the country are limited then a extension might be possible.

About the only thing at this time is a 30 day special extension with a letter from your embassy.

Can you confirm (as good as you can, I know its always up to immigration) that those with a marriage visa who have NOT yet used their 60 days extension, can apply for such an extension any time before September 26?

15 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It is the not July 26th yet.

When applying for the extension you should ask when it will start. I certainly would not suggest doing it almost 2 months early.

I think doing it in September would be better.

I definitely don't want to lose any days, but the graphic said that all extensions will start September 27th. However how each local immigration office treats it is a different matter I guess.

I am on a marriage visa. Have NOT yet used my 60 days extension to visit my wife. Looks like I can apply now and it will start on September 27th for another 60 days, meaning I'm good until late November?

Will be interesting to see if its an extension of the amnesty or a grace period.

1. Wait for the cabinet to approve the grace period.

2. Wait for the immigration announcement with the details.

3. Take steps.

24 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

You cannot apply for 'another' 60 days extension, you are only allowed one per entry.  So if you used it up already that avenue is closed. 

Some applicants for the 1-year extension of their Non Imm O Visa with permission to stay already expired, needed such an extension in order to be able to meet the 2 months seasoning of their financial funds (required when applying for their first 1-year extension).  When the Amnesty is extended till end of September those that did not yet start with the seasoning of the required funds will now be able to do it, but obviously recommended not to wait too long before starting with it.

I didn't use mine yet. So just wondering. But I guess we all have to wait for tomorrow.

Are we sure yet that we can apply for another 60 days extension (based on Thai wife) after July 31? Or do we need to apply before July 31? There's the strange wording about 30 days extensions being given before September 26 but that could be due to the translation.

2 minutes ago, Calvin1976 said:

Interesting topic... 

Don't you think many others might had the same plan/idea like you? 

Then all meet on 10-15/Sept at WC. ????

Should all show up at the same Immigration office, coughing and claiming to have a fever, forcing Immigration to make another extension.

26 minutes ago, arfandy said:

@ubonjoe do you think i can still be eligible for 90-day permit to visit spouse?

 

Before visa amnesty/lockdown took place, i posted a question if my 60-day tourist visa can be extended for 90-day. You replied me that i can apply for EITHER 30-day visa extension OR 90-day permit to visit spouse. I applied for 30-day tourist visa extension on early April 2020 then i think about a week later,the first visa amnesty took place (before it was again extended until July 31). 

 

Overal, my current visa was already expired, hence my question, do you think i can still be eligible to apply for 90-day spouse visitation permit?

 

I honestly do not think i can re-re-extend my expired tourist visa and getting only 30 days for 1900 baht instead of 90 days for the same fee, i'd rather take the 90 days. I have all the necessary documents to apply for spouse visitation permit, pressumably nothing is changed at the immigration office.

You already applied for an extension. That's why you cannot apply again.

5 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

When using the monthly-income transfer method to prove that you meet the financial requirements It depends on the IO where you report.

Attached the requirements checklist for a 1-year extension of stay based on your Non Imm O Visa for reason of marriage, at the IO in Hat Yai and the IO in SriRacha.

Both of them, apart from the foreign origin of the funds also require an Embassy certified pension statement.

If you are a US, UK or Australian citizen, your Embassy will not issue such a statement, and hence those nationalities can ONLY use the money-in-bank method when applying for the 1-year extension of their Non Imm O marriage Visa.

 

MarriageextdocsEng-SiRacha.pdf 682.91 kB · 2 downloads Hat Yai - 1-year Marriage extension requirements dd May 2020.pdf 672.41 kB · 1 download

It seems to be different for every immigration office.

Some ask for proof of the 40k transfer, where it comes from, etc. Some just want to see the transfers. I think you're both right and both wrong. Depending on the immigration office.

1 hour ago, otissp said:

 

I think the situations might be be different actually. Further clarification should follow the official announcement on Tuesday, I guess.

 

The situation until July 31 has been being referred to as an "amnesty", which I would submit, is actually a misnomer, since the legal lengths of stay were extended to July 31st, and since people covered under the visa extension program are staying legally, they do not need amnesty. Encyclopedia Britannica: "Amnesty, in criminal law, sovereign act of oblivion or forgetfulness (from Greek amnēsia) for past acts, granted by a government to persons who have been guilty of crimes."

 

It sounds like what is happening now might be different, and actually may be a true "amnesty". For example:

 

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The nuance turns on the phrase "after their visas expire on July 31st".  If they are saying that the visas/lengths of stay are going to expire on July 31st, but they will not prosecute people who stay beyond that and leave before September 26th, then this would be a true amnesty period and not the same as the current period of time.

 

The difference could be important, not just semantic, because, for example, if one's legal length of stay expires on 7/31 and technically their status becomes an overstay period, it may no longer be possible to do things like apply to extend certain visa types.

 

The representative in this BKK post article also indicated that until 9/26, people could apply for a 30-day extension, which it was stated, would be granted on a case by case basis, based on whether or not the individual proved that they are in fact actually not able to travel home due to COVID. It was not mentioned that other forms of extension could be applied for, and it was also clear in the article that these were based on literally being not able to travel home and being able to convince immigration of this.

 

More clarification should follow the official announcements on Tuesday, I think.

 

Very good analysis. It might be that everyone with a 60 days extension still in hand might be making all the wrong assumptions right now.

But the only thing we can do is wait and hopefully get some clarification on Tuesday. If not, then definitely at the local immigration office after that.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

It's funny how so many posters lie on these forums, I essentially don't believe anyone who claims a wonderful relationship with a Thai lady, they all turn to poop sooner rather than later as far as I can see.

I don't brag about it. And I've never even mentioned my wife here. But I have been married to the same Thai woman for 20 years now. Sure, we do fight sometimes (every 2-3 months?), but we've never even considered breaking up. And my wife earns more than me. She bought the house from her own money. But all my friends to say that I am an exception. Lucky me.

Out of curiosity, what does one do if:

1. Children are under 18.

2. You are the sole guardian.

3. You don't have 400k in the bank

Do you still have to leave the country and put the children in an orphanage or what?

22 hours ago, Keyser Soze666 said:

That doesn't make a shred of difference at the end of the day. 10 minutes after it's just back to normal. If sex was the answer there would never be any break up's, divorces etc..

Maybe 10 minutes is the problem.

28 minutes ago, drbeach said:

You're only partially correct. Don't dwell on the terminology too much. This is a final amnesty. It means you have the following choices depending on your circumstances:

 

1) do nothing if you plan to leave on or before Sep 26 and have a flight out (which hopefully won't be cancelled)

2) seek a normal extension you are eligible for, anytime between now and Sep 26

3) seek a 1-week "get out of Thailand extension" if you have firm travel plans within 7 days after Sep 26

4) seek a 30-day extension, with necessary proof that you are stuck and unable to leave by Sep 26

This looks the most accurate. Remember that Immigration does not at all times specify all visa types or use the correct terms (aka terms we may use). They may say you can either leave or get 30 days extension, but you may also get a 60 days extension (if you qualify), they may just not mention it.

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

If you get a 60 day extension, and don't have 800/400k in the bank, you won't have the option for a legit 1 year extension at the end of the 60 days.

 

Do you really think any borders will be open later this year?

I wish I'd stayed in Cambodia where all I needed for another year was $300.

 

Agree with you. I don't think the borders will be open.

@innosiem@BritManToo

I don't think you need 400k in the bank to get a 60 days extension. Only if you want an annual extension.

37 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

I most certainly will not leave her. However the UK authorities will not issue her with a British Passport - although I am named on her (Thai) birth certificate as her father - she is actually registered with a western Christian name, and my surname. When I applied I was informed that she was born before the rule change which granted her automatic citizenship, and they ( the authorities in Birkenhead) do not consider her eligible. There appears to be no appeal, subsequent communications, by email or letter, have gone unanswered.

 

The 60 day extension is also closed - I used that when the border closed back at the end of March, on the advice of immigration - after they had fined me for three days overstay!

 

I may perhaps be able to make a case for a further extension (s), perhaps supported by Lucy's psychiatrist, Reverend Mother/school principal and various others until the borders reopen - I just don't know. If they force me to leave her it will have to be by arresting me!

 

If she is legally (on paper) your daughter, you can take her with you even if she doesn't have a British passport. On humanitarian grounds they cannot deny you as her father. 

1 hour ago, problemfarang said:

 

Agreed. I think the new extensions will start from 26 september but you must apply before 26.. 

I am thinking they will start from the date you apply. But I could be wrong. That's how it normally works. I can tell you right now however that the days before September 26th will once again be super busy at Immigration.

4 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

Personally I want nothing more than to renew my multiple entry non O visa, issued because I am the single father of a teenage daughter who is recovering ( slowly) from debilitating depression ( a result of her mother leaving me and abandoning her).

 

My personal circumstances prevent me from banking 400,000 Baht, I have adequate funds to live on, and even to start making inroads into the debts my wife left me with.

 

As I said, I wish to renew my visa. I cannot see, at present, a way to do this. A problem I suspect facing a number of us. If anyone has any suggestions I would welcome them. Abandoning my daughter to return to the UK (where I have no family or nowhere to live) would be disastrous for her mental health, and probably not too good for me! The only available "substitute parent" is her 78 year old grandmother, crippled with rheumatism.

 

I suspect my only hope is putting up a case for the Immigration Service to issue me a visa - single or multiple entry. 

 

You see sometimes it is not as simple as "get your act together"

I would suggest waiting until shortly before September 26 and extending another 60 days if you have not yet used that. I think the "visit your wife" case won't work, but I think you can use the "visit your daughter" scenario. @ubonjoe might have more advice.

Whatever you do, don't leave your daughter behind. If you need to go to the UK and you're her legal guardian, take her with you.