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You came across as sufficiently expert as to be able to call me antisemite. Now you profess to not knowing the subject at all. Maybe stay out of threads you know little about or at least refrain from accusing people who might as being antisemitic?

This topic is about Israeli - Palestinian relations. It is not about neighbouring countries.

Then why are you here? That was the first point that I made in this entire conversation. You have given plenty of opinions but when faced with having to provide a direct answer to a pointed question, you demur. Moreover, you should be aware that settlements are the most contentious point in the entire Israeli - Palestinian relationship. To suggest that you are not is at least disingenuous.

Illegal settlemements are genocide. Do you disagree?

Any national action which I consider genocide can be fairly described as nazi. Illegal settlements are genocide. There's no religious aspect to this. You can't deny there are many nazis in Israel and you can't describe them as being antisemite. Try to draw a distinction between fair and legitimate criticism of Israel, no matter how harsh that criticism is and antisemitism. Nothing prevents Israel form achieving nazi status and it;s well on the way there if not already, by its actions and policies alone.

So, it's impossible for the Israeli government to engage in nazi like activities and have those activities fairly contrasted with nazis? You really want to pull the antisemite card but I'm not signing on to that plan.

This is the first and only sentence on the introductory part of the website of the American Holocaust Memorial Museum. At no time since I joined this conversation has the word Jews been written or implied by me. Are you going to insist that it's impossible to criticise Israeli government policies and actions without fairly being labelled antisemitic? "Antisemitism is prejudice against or hatred of Jews. " https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/what-is-antisemitism

Thanks. Sincerely. My original point was that there are nazis in every country and that Israel is no exception. I do go so far as to claim that in my opinion and for the reasons I have given, Israel can be fairly described as a nazi state. That's no reflection on Israelis in general or Jews at all.

There's a miraculously long chain of people doing things which coincided with Trump's wishes but not at his direction, apparently. Either that or they are going to flip and become prosecution witnesses.

What the kids were not doping is firing high velocity weapons.

I promise I am no more anti-semite than I am racist.

Show me where I said Jews were nazis or apologise.

You're like another poster who couldn't debate on the subject matter and so resorted to flinging insults. Sad. 1. Are Israeli soldiers justified in killing kids for throwing rocks? 2. Are illegal Israeli settlements not genocide?

When it comes to Israel you are blind to both sides of any argument. And you will not weakly accuse me of being an anti-semite to another poster.

A classic case of victim blaming and supporting nazism in a single short sentence. Why are those kids motivated to throw rocks at soldiers? I wasn't but soldiers weren't shooting my friends and destroying my house.

Make all the excuses for crimes against humanity you like. In most of those cases, the soldiers absolutely knew they were dealing with kids. They read the news and see it on TV every day. Moreover, their seniors would have told them they were kids. Do you deny that it was reasonable that they knew they were kids?

I stand by those words now. If Covid was smallpox or polio would you still be saying that mandatory vaccines and restriction of movement were off the plate? The early versions of covid were highly contagious and deadly. Millions died. Millions more would have died without the vaccinations and lockdowns. https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-08-29/no-gov-desantis-covid-lockdowns-saved-lives-and-your-policies-did-the-opposite https://www.the-scientist.com/features/counting-the-lives-saved-by-lockdownsand-lost-to-slow-action-67689

You might think soldiers killing kids for throwing stones is justified. I never will.

Stones aren't grenades. Again, you want to twist in the wind.

Obviously you are unable to elucidate your position in respect to the issues mentioned. 'nuff said.

To suggest that any kids are the enemy of any soldiers is beyond the pale.

Did he not say the kids were the enemy of the soldiers who shot them? Let's keep the semantics precise here.

You said it. The kids are the enemy. Nazis.

I've changed nothing, you're trying to deflect. I have never said all Israelis are nazis and obviously don't believe that. I have never mentioned their religion. I will say that Israel is a nazi state as it stands. Many Israelis agree with me.

While acknowledging there are nazis in Israel (on an ongoing basis) you can't make yourself explicitly admit it. Let's go to the next step. Are illegal Israeli settlements genocidal? Is shooting kids for throwing stones under any circumstances a war crime?