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Climate change deniers are ignoring the numbers. There are no numbers which deny climate change or even significantly change the forecasts. There is no natural phenomenon going on now which could even conceivably warm the planet. Climate deniers are politically and religiously driven, not scientists (in the main).

It means nothing at all. I'm not directing my comments at individual board members, just everybody on the planet who spins the same disinformation. They are, as I said, nothing more than useful idiots of the fossil fuel industry. Climate change deniers are fringe group of right wing, uninformed and uneducated. Maybe 30 years ago they could have been given some slack. Not now. We may as well debate whether Hansel and Gretel were real people.

It really doesn't matter what the numbers are, the evidence is now plaint o see and it's catastrophic, already. Only fools and the corrupt think this is a natural cycle and that the extremes in temperatures and climate will go away.

You don't really expect climate deniers to actually read the links you post do you?

Does the word RATE mean anything at all to you?

I said it doesn't have any relation to climate change.

Warming is occurring at a rate many thousands of times faster than at any time in the past apart from major volcanic eruptions. Furthermore, the primary driver of atmospheric temperature is at the highest levels for almost a million years. There is natural change. Right now it should be slowly cooling. Stating the obvious that natural change exists is in no way proving that any of the current warming is related to natural change, let alone how much.

and the relevance to climate change is...?

"from one of the leading models"

Zero is caused by natural causes because no natural cause has been identified which is or can cause atmospheric warming. On the contrary, much evidence has been discovered to show that climate change is caused by man. A mathematical formula to determine the amount of temperature rise for a given CO2 increase was published over 100 years ago. https://daily.jstor.org/how-19th-century-scientists-predicted-global-warming/

1980's but it isn't related to climate change in any way. There's a lot we don;t know about cancer either but that doesn't stop us from postulating as to the causes and trying to cure it. https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/el-niño-and-la-niña-frequently-asked-questions

You can do a little cherry picking back in the 60's and 70's if you like but it doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of climate modelling is quite accurate.

Very quiet round these parts today.

No, Graham is supporting Trump in the hope that if Trump stumbles he gets to be chief whack job instead of DeSantis.

There's plenty more... Norm Eisen: Trump likely to face racketeering charges in Georgia https://www.salon.com/2022/06/19/norm-eisen-likely-to-face-racketeering-charges-in-georgia_partner/

Yes, I expected Trump and MAGA to face RICO charges. Tiny fists? LOL https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2019/03/06/why-the-trump-organization-now-risks-being-charged-as-a-criminal-enterprise/?sh=32860b313a18

Those violent incidents you described aren't organized crime. MAGA is an organized criminal organization with an agreed leader. Furthermore, justice has already dealt with those incidents. There's no need to rehash them. MAGA are yet to be properly prosecuted for their crimes.

The best outcome is probably that Trump blows everything up and then implodes. I'm hoping that's what he does and so far he's following the script.

They have all come true.

Trump’s Truth Social barred from Google Play over content moderation https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3621000-trumps-truth-social-barred-from-google-play-over-content-moderation/

German inflation rose to its highest level in almost 50 years in August, beating a high set only three months earlier, data showed, strengthening the case for the European Central Bank to go for a larger basis-point interest rate increase next month. Consumer prices, harmonised to make them comparable with inflation data from other European Union countries (HICP), increased by 8.8% on the year, following an unexpected 8.5% rise in July, the federal statistics office said on Tuesday. The reading was in line with a Reuters poll of analysts. https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/german-inflation-rises-88-august-2022-08-30/

A person familiar with the matter confirmed that the Republican National Committee is not paying for Trump’s legal fees related to the FBI’s investigation and retrieval of documents at Mar-a-Lago. That’s a departure of sorts from the past. The RNC has, for example, paid for Trump’s legal bills involving New York Attorney General Tish James’ investigation into the former president’s private businesses. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/30/trump-florida-solicitor-general-mar-a-lago-probe-00054219

Collins then posted a screen shot from a QAnon forum that giddily revealed that Trump promoted a meme that referenced "The Storm," which in QAnon mythology refers to the time when Trump conducts mass arrests of his political foes and exposes them as part of a global pedophile cabal. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-qanon-2657966360/

Trump’s meltdown, which includes dozens of posts and reposts per hour, comes amid his baseless demand on Monday to either be named president again or have the nation hold a new election “immediately.” “Trump is spending his morning on Truth Social directly posting 4chan and Q messages, a day after calling to be reinstated as president. For good measure, he’s also promoting a nonsense idea that the FBI and antifa, not his supporters, stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 https://www.rawstory.com/trump-is-losing-it-on-truth-social-as-his-legal-troubles-continue-to-mount/