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10 hours ago, impulse said:

If you netted it all out, I wonder if more Filipinos died, or more were saved by his policies? 

 

Never mind that I suspect it was the bad guys dying.

 

It was all for nothing. The drug business is back to normal, as robust as ever. No one in the world ever succeeded in wiping out the drug trade. It's impossible.

He made lots of enemies and they are coming after him.

4 hours ago, Gaccha said:

A British newspaper claims "The pair have spent every penny they own trying to clear their names". 

 

Just how much is a lawyer for a simple criminal case costing them. What on earth are they doing? 

 

I'd think it would have cost so far no more than 20,000 baht, and the trial itself would be no more than 30,000. Am I disconnected from reality?

Yes, you are completely disconnected from reality. There are 2 criminal court cases here, the first one as plaintiffs, the second one as defendants. There will be some civil cases for damages as well, so up to 4 court cases. 9 years ago I spent a lot more than that, and I got a good deal. Good lawyers will charge more than 100k for each court case. They already lost their first payment as the lawyer did nothing.

1 hour ago, liddelljohn said:

it does not even say what part of Thailand this event happened thats a red flag is it real???????

Hua Hin, and well documented.

9 hours ago, WDSmart said:

I'm only suggesting that I'd like to hear the other side of the story before drawing any definite conclusions. I admit it doesn't sound like anything could justify what was done, but it would be interesting to hear why the other side says they did this. 

No matter who was in the wrong, there is no justification for the beating they took. Do you see the young thug with injuries? Who was in the hospital with injuries? Who is selling up and leaving? They got all they wanted and are going for more.

There is no reason to hear anything they have to say. Nothing they have to say can make it right.

Just now, Cameroni said:

Same as every other country in the world. 

 

Don't see how this makes Thailand different.

No, it's not. My home country, Australia has trial by jury for serious assault cases, which this is.

In the UK, too

In the UK, more serious assault cases, those deemed "indictable offences," are tried in the Crown Court with a jury, while less serious cases, or "summary offences," are typically heard in Magistrates' Courts without a jury. 

Here's a brief overview of the court system in Thailand:

Thailand does not have a jury system; instead, judges or a panel of judges decide the guilt or innocence of a defendant, as well as determine the sentence. 

No Jury System:

In Thailand, the legal system operates with judges, not juries, making decisions based on the evidence presented by both the prosecution and defence. 

Judges Solely Decide:

The judge or panel of judges is responsible for determining guilt or innocence and, if guilty, for imposing the appropriate sentence. 

Departure from Western Systems:

This differs significantly from the jury trial process common in some Western legal systems, where a group of citizens decides the facts of the case. 

Advocacy System:

In Thailand, courtroom proceedings are conducted in an adversarial system, whereby the two opposing advocates represent their clients' cases before one or more judges. 

5 hours ago, baabaaloo said:

The russians get into trouble all the time all over Thailand and get away with it, better seek retirement in Vietnam or Philippines, much safer and affordable.

The Philippines is much safer? You can't be serious? There's no comparison. Thailand is like a padded cell in contrast to the Philippines. Disputes such as this one might have ended up with both dead, in the Philippines. Be very careful who you raise your voice to in the Philippines. A big difference is they don't often shout back, but quietly take care of business. It's a jungle compared to Thailand. I can't comment on Vietnam.

5 hours ago, smedly said:

stories like this come down to one thing IMO

 

money

 

Why is this elderly couple still in Thailand, they need to get out now

Obviously (I thought) because they are on bail which includes confiscation of their passports.

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well clearly Thai police and justice system is very fair, if the Brit couple did nothing they will be acquitted.

 

However, if they attacked and caused the altercation they will be rightly punished.

 

We can have total faith in Thai justice.

This is nonsense. The Thai police and justice system is about as fair as your lawyer is good. I had a criminal case that I needed to defend with my wife. The first lawyer f***ked our case by providing our evidence late to the court so it was not accepted, and due to that the defendants opened a criminal case against us. We were lucky to find very good lawyers (recommended on this forum) to get out of a sticky situation that could have landed us in prison. 

Bear in mind, that the judge's decision in Thailand is final. There are no juries here. One good thing is they insist on a mediation session before the court case where the parties can come to an agreement. The local police in this case might have been negligent in carrying out their duties, but court cases involving foreigners are taken quite seriously when they arrive in court.

2 minutes ago, retarius said:

With massive grade inflation in say 'A' levels in the UK I wonder how I would fare these days in such exams. 

I got 10 'O' levels with 9 grade 1s which in 1967 was worthy of an article in the local n news paper.

I got 4 'A' Levels and two special papers. 3 of the 'A' levels were grade A. Again I got a short article in the newspaper, forecasting a bright future. 

I did miserably at university....but pretty well in my career. I think I peaked early 🙂

 

I was in the 8th Grade in South Africa, and the other kids called me "professor", but I still wouldn't have passed that test, and back in those days the school curriculum was very "old English". Blazers and ties warn at all times, hair was chopped above the collar, and we were caned for minor infringements.

3 minutes ago, mfd101 said:

13-14. OK, so on that basis, I doubt almost any kids of that age anywhere in the Anglophone world today could pass such a test.

 

For those European countries that still have much of an old-fashioned education still in place for those who can benefit from it - which is probably most European countries - such a test would be fine.

Forget about kids, not many adults would be able to pass that test. Would you? On an overall score in all 7 categories, I would fail. Of course, a lot of the history and Civil Government questions are USA-specific.

11 minutes ago, RPCVguy said:

After making two false statements, you express opinions lacking any understanding of the chemistry and physics as meticulously tracked. The lack of research on your part is ludicrous to include in a discussion. You make accusations against people who have devoted their lives to precisely understanding aspects of our environment. You believe the science that conveniently supplies satellite data to your phone, provides weather maps, warns of major storms - yet refuse to accept the same data as gathered and applied inconveniently to your ideology.
I've a degree in chemistry, work experience in oil company research labs, before working in chemicals & plastics. Now retired, I have taken added courses in climate science and quite well understand the basics of how greenhouse gases act as insulation, which human society is adding to our atmosphere.

That's worse, that you claimed yourself that you know the climate of the earth 3 million years ago. I thought you might have copied and pasted it from somewhere. This is nothing more than a wild guess and you're claiming it as a fact. You keep posting the same links from climate change advocates. It's biased material - that's also a fact. I didn't need your resume as it means nothing here. People can pretend to be anything they like here. Maybe you're promoting your own websites.

On 4/22/2023 at 1:34 PM, ftpjtm said:

I spent an hour exercising in the local outdoor exercise park this morning. The thermometer read 33° and it felt like 33° to me. 

 

I've been in desert environments with high actual temperatures and very low humidity. The low humidity didn't make it "feel" cooler. 33° in the desert feels like 33° in a very dry environment. I'm much more comfortable in the humidity. Heat Index temperatures are a click bait headline generating phenomenon. 

You didn't learn much in that dry desert environment as you obviously don't have a clue about how humidity affects how a temperature feels. All weather sites have temp, humidity and temperature feel indicators. It's not to promote anything - it's just fact. The higher the humidity, the hotter it feels.

The easiest way to prove you wrong is by going into a sauna and putting some water on the coals. I guarantee it will feel twice as hot. Wait for the steam to disipitate, and it will still feel much hotter as the air will be at 100% humidity.

Another trickier way would be to have 2 thermometers/hygrometers set up in 2 rooms. One of them at room temperature, and the other that has been air conditioned for a long time and turned off so the temperature can return to the same temperature as the non-airconditioned room BUT maintains a lower humidity. The room at the same temperature but lower humidity will feel considerably cooler. I have 2 rooms like this. One room had 75% at 30.5C and the other room was 40% humidity @30.5C. You'll be amazed at the difference in temperature feel.

If you buy some thermometers/hygrometers and experiment, you might learn something.

On 5/3/2021 at 6:28 AM, jacko45k said:

Perhaps better to say there is no single one good solution, but a combination of efforts, of which mask wearing is a component. 

It's a component in that it make people feel safer, for what that's worth... .and make the government feel like they are doing something. It's quite evident that after more than a year, there is very little humans can do to contain these type of viral infections, and what they have done is causing more harm than good.

On 5/3/2021 at 8:26 AM, Thaifly88 said:

In most counties the dog would have been killed after such an attack. If he kills a child next time, what will they do ? 

Going by what they did here, probably pass it on to a new owner for some further "attitude adjustment". 

4 hours ago, sungod said:

A bit harsh, all the info is on the Pattaya News website if people can be bothered to find it, all that's needed is a little self help.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/05/02/chonburi-covid-19-cases-drop-again-with-89-confirmed-new-cases-of-covid-19-today/

 

From yesterday, 241 contact tracing, 1609 pro active.

 

89 positive.

 

4.8%

There's no need to search as you've done the hard work for us. Thank you.

Do you know if the hours between 11pm and 4am are official curfew hours?

On 4/17/2021 at 9:58 AM, Excel said:

And to make it even worse from reading that report apparently there is something called a

"Pit Bull Zone Association" - what is that, an organisation of mentally challenged people who are training these killing beasts ?

They might be considering Giant as a candidate for dog fights.

On 4/22/2021 at 6:40 PM, pattayadude said:

Covid somehow bypassed certain countries like Thailand and the Philippines most of the 2020 but just started affecting them one by one and cases in these Asian countries skyrocketed within a few weeks in March and April of this year. No one really knows why. It is becoming very obvious that bars and neon lighted streets full of people is slowly becoming a concept of the past, sweet memories of the last decade.

Covid did not bypass the Philippines. The whole country has been locked down tight for over a year. Unfortunately the lockdown is causing more suffering and death than the virus itself. The schools have all been closed for more than a year.

On 4/23/2021 at 9:57 AM, Nanaplaza666 said:

They do , but they are not born agressive . 

It's what they do when they get angry that makes them dangerous. That's instinct. They are too strong and have a nasty bite. One day that dog will lose its cool again and chomp at whoever is around at the time. Let's hope it's the new owner and not a child or baby.

On 4/22/2021 at 9:07 AM, Aforek said:

Yes, so are  people who organised the ceremony : the only thing to was to euthanize this dog

I like dogs, but not dangerous dogs

Did the dog understood what was the ceremony organised for ? I doubt ...????

It seems everyone needs to apologize to dogs by saying "I like dogs - but...". It's about as meaningless as saying "I like humans". 

On 4/26/2021 at 12:43 PM, Eindhoven said:

 

Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Ukraine...

It was in Ukrainian SSR in the Soviet Union.

On 4/28/2021 at 11:05 AM, smedly said:

going to need a special mask that allows food to pass through but blocks the virus 

 

 

Stupid nonsense 

One thing is certain - the virus can get through all masks unless they have a dedicated air supply AND are extremely well sealed around the face but of course the person will vent covid virus if he is infected and spread it around. Bottom line, there is no good solution to stopping the spread.  

On 1/23/2021 at 10:23 AM, possum1931 said:

There was hardly ever anybody in it, no wonder with their prices. Some things cost more than double what they cost in M/S in UK.

UK prices are not particularly relevant. I've never been to the UK so cannot compare... and I'm sure I'm not their only non-UK customer. I'm not surprised that imported goods cost more than at their country of origin. They are luxury items here, so if you want them, you pay the premium or just do without.  I often pop in to M&S to take advantage of their food items on sale... usually going for half price.