Mac Mickmanus

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

A violent attempt at overturning legitimate election results, which fortunately failed.  That's not leaving voluntarily, that's leaving after all other options have been exhausted.

 

Trump had not quite subverted the rule of law enough to stay in power.  I'm sure he will be better prepared if given another chance.

Trump did tell all his supporters to remain peaceful and he did tell them to home home when things became a bit rowdy .

   It was just a legitimate demonstration that escalated and some of the demonstrators over stepped the mark a bit 

1 hour ago, candide said:

Why is it that MAGA fans seem to prefer corrupt politicians?

https://www.salon.com/2022/03/29/a-stunning-portrait-of-political-corruption-exactly-how-joe-manchin-made-millions-from-coal/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/27/climate/manchin-coal-climate-conflicts.html

 

 

I do think that you missed the sarcasm .

Joe Mancini is a Democrat and he was mentioned to point out corrupt Democrat Politicians 

3 hours ago, BritScot said:

Or thought he was above board by using an agent then decided to do it himself. This would not be the first time this has happened.  If he went to immigration then isn't it something like a 25k fine then all is OK?

No, he did go to immigration and will get deported and banned from Thailand .

   The days of just paying 20 000 Baht for any length of overstay have long gone , long overstays these days are blacklisting from going back to Thailand for a  number of years 

3 minutes ago, roo860 said:

You're only liable to pay CGT on any property that isn't your primary place of residence - i.e. your main home where you have lived for at least 2 years. 

 

https://www.

Thanks, that's handy to know .

I was going to sell my property and flee to Thailand without telling or paying the taxman .

   I dont have to do that now

Just now, roo860 said:

No, why should I?

U.K law says you should .

Do you intend to not go back to the U.K ?

On 6/17/2023 at 5:31 AM, rutteketuut said:

she drinks Lao Khao and is always drunk.

If she's drinking large amounts of Lao Khao , then she will have a short life expectancy , many people are dead within three years of daily drinking that stuff

4 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Not then but I do now.

 

The US attacked Afghanistan because it got the name of the perpetrating country wrong. 15 of 19 9/11 bombers were Saudis. None were Afghans.

Afghanistan was the Country where the terrorists had a safe haven and could arrange terrorists events and 9/11 was arranged by terrorists in Afghanistan .

   The invasion of Afghanistan was not a revenge attack for 9/11 and (that's why Saudi wasn't attacked) , it was to remove the Afghan terrorist sympathiser Afghan Government .

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

and, by extension, you believe the US should abstain from helping Ukraine defend it self against Russia as well?

 

Nor should it have provoked Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor by imposing a rubber embargo. And the USS Peary should never have been defending Darwin when it was sunk by Japanese aircraft.

 

Nor should it have fought the Chinese to defend South Korea.

This is a story about USA attacking Iran .

Do you think that Trump/USA should have attacked Iran ?

(Need to take into consideration how the USA attacking Iraq and Afghanistan went )

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Objectively no.

But many of his maga cult members continue to regard him as the current president.

Yes, that is insane.

How do the maga cult members feel about Trump running again in the next election ?

  As he has been POTUS for two terms now , wouldn't that means he's unable to run for  third term in office , as two terms is the maximum ?

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He never conceded.

He left because his self coup attempt failed.

I haven't been following the news much recently 

Is Donald Trump still USA President ?

   Inside the sub

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

The voters removed him. 

He tried to stay anyway.

DESPICABLE!

But at the end of the day, Trump did leave the Whitehouse voluntarily and he conceded his position to Joe Biden .

   This isn't the behaviour of a fascist , fascists remain in power and jail the opposition 

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Self coup. 

 

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/government-and-opposition/article/trump-selfcoup-attempt-comparisons-and-civilmilitary-relations/16D5EF307C7DF49FCE86948D1569B014

 

The storming of the US Capitol building in January 2021 was a presidential attempt at a self-coup. To make the case, this article reviews elements of the Capitol assault and the events leading up to it, in light of the key conceptual components of a self-coup, and how those compare to attributes of other kinds of attacks on governments.

Well I suppose that Donald Trump was successful in his self coup, because he got rid of the then current President and Biden took over .

   Trump did a coup on January 6 th and removed himself as President .

   Would that make him a fascist though ?

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, but on January 6th, Trump attempted to overthrow the government and end democracy as we know it. 

Trump WAS the Government on January  6th , he was the President at the time .

    He wasn't trying to overthrow himself, was he ?

6 minutes ago, candide said:

That's why I asked this question. The article is actually a good discussion as to why the GOP could be called fascist.

Fascists are dictators  who take complete and full control of a country and do not have elections and suppress all opposition 

   As the G.O.P participate in elections and cede power in elections , that means they aren't fascists

Just now, ozimoron said:

I gave the reason. Why would anyone debate with someone who makes a habit of neither providing nor reading links?

I consider a debate to be a discussion between two people , rather than just one person talking and the other person just  firing links back as a response , and not saying anything themselves 

9 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Nobody wants kindergartners to be shown that and nor has any kindergartner ever bee  shown that. As for gender reassignment surgery, it's totally up to doctors, parents and the child. No fascists should have any say. Abortions are likewise totally between women and doctors. Not fascists and religious whack jobs.

I think that the baby should have a say in the process

They should wait until the Child reaches 18 years old and then the Mother, Doctor and Child all discuss  whether the now adult should be put to death or not 

6 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Trump may be a proven criminal earlier than we thought........

 

'U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has set an initial trial date of Aug. 14 in Florida on former President Donald Trump's federal charges of willful retention of classified government records and obstruction of justice, according to a court order on Tuesday'.

 

U.S. judge sets Aug. 14 trial date for Trump in Florida documents case | Reuters

Coincidently enough, we were just discussing what Fascism is and one of the definitions of Fascism is forcible silencing your political opponents 

3 minutes ago, Social Media said:

The unprecedented melting has an impact on over 2 billion people that depend on rivers flowing from these mountains for freshwater sources,

If more ice is melting, wont those people be getting MORE water and not less ?

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy

 

wiki

And a quote from George Orwell from your link 

"'Fascism' has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies something not desirable."

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Read the definition above, You might not like it but controlling womens rights is fascism - by definition.

It isn't . Abortions aren't even mentioned 

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Get an education

 

Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen.

Here is a a fuller definition :

"a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"

   https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism