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North Korea's very own version of trick or treat.
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13 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:
I think you will find that I only retaliate as opposed to slinging the first insult. Not that it matters, this is just an anonymous internet forum with keyboard warriors that have nothing better to do all day.
Rejecting your fantasy fabricated stories is not an insult!
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2 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:Seems like you’re an exception.
Don't confuse intellect with the word ignoramus, you are no intellect!
I can take your petty insults all day, it's sad that you have lost the argument and now we are reduced to insults!
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5 hours ago, Gweiloman said:Wow, I never heard of this word, nadir, before. As I’ve said before, English is not my mother tongue so there are many words in the English language that I’m not familiar with. Thanks for helping me to enrich my vocabulary.
I wasn’t referring to you in my earlier post of course, but that doesn’t mean I don’t consider some of your posts as the nadir of intelligent discussion (is that a correct usage? I’m still learning).
You shouldn't have to learn common sense and decency.....most of us are born with it!
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5 hours ago, Gweiloman said:Most of us know the truth…
I find this a most interesting statement. Truth… What is the truth? Is it what you believe or want to believe? If someone else believes the opposite, is that not the truth to them? Who is to say what is really the truth? A court of law? Judges? The ICC issued a warrant of arrest for Putin. This was widely applauded by the west, as justice was seen to be done. The same court might now issue warrants for US supported leaders in Israel. This is completely unacceptable to some US politicians, leading to calls of sanctions and who knows what else. Justice? Or hypocrisy?
I’ve always held western education in high regard and believed that westerners are fair and just people. I now realise that I was merely a victim of western propaganda and that westerners are as fallible and gullible as everyone else. Worse, a lot of them are unable to be introspective and robbed of the ability to see another point of view. It’s time to replace the rules based order with international law and order.
I wouldn't try in a million years to analyse what the truth is as it never appears in any of your posts which are made up nonsense, so in essence you are the last person to disect the meaning of the word "truth".
You have obviously fallen for some propaganda and it isn't Western as it appears your mind is full of hate and you persist in victim blaming and make no mistake Russia are the aggressors here, and if you think otherwise somebody has done a first class job in altering your sense of reality and the ability to see the obvious.
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8 minutes ago, VBer said:
Then cornered on topic, attack your opponent personally, right
You are suggesting that because Putin says it, it is the truth, even you must see the idiocy of that comment. Putin stated one day before he illegally invaded Ukraine that was not his intention. Whilst you may find Putin a good and upstanding gentleman that has never told a lie in his life, most of us know the truth!
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3 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:
Makes two of us. On this forum, doesn’t bother me the slightest.
No it won’t bother you as you are quite happy to fabricate nonsense to inflame other members, your posts are imaginary storytelling and as far away from reality as possibly can be!
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5 minutes ago, VBer said:
The initial question was did Putin claimed it. No, he didn’t claimed any time period. Now you replaced some research of some organisation as the claim of Putin.
Are you high?
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10 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:The Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) is the world’s oldest and the UK’s leading defence and security think tank. Our mission is to inform, influence and enhance public debate to help build a safer and more stable world.
I didn’t realise that RUSI is the ultimate and incontrovertible word on all things. It’s sad that you don’t even realise that you are being misled.
You would have more credibility if you can post a video of Putin or one of his top officials making such a claim.Why would anybody believe anything that Putin pumps out of his lying lips. Hand on heart do you believe Putin and his kremlin thugs?
Incidentally talking of credibility, you have none!
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8 minutes ago, VBer said:Neither Putin, neither any other officials haven’t claimed it. It was claimed only by
journalustspropagandists.Putin expected his "SMO" to take 10 days, now let's not play games we are not going to argue over 7 days are we, war is not always easy to predict.
According to research by the think tank RUSI, when Vladimir Putin began his invasion, he expected to take control of Ukraine within 10 days. So what went wrong? Why did his plan fail? And how close did he come to succeeding?
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1 hour ago, Gweiloman said:It could be that Zelensky saw an opportunity to enrich himself and his cronies immensely. It won’t be the first time something like this has happened.
Your posting is vulgar, try being honest!
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6 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:I should add that there are some (not you) that are lower than fools. Those, I ignore altogether.
You reached that nadir many moons ago and all you have left is petty insults. Look in the mirror before you band words like "fools" about.
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16 minutes ago, niccodemi said:
Israelis don't agree on two state solution and they don't want Palestinians on occupied territories to have equal rights with the other Israeli Jews. They are left with two choices, continue living in an apartheid state or ethnically cleanse. Oct 7th was the perfect excuse for the latter. From Israeli standpoint they chose optimal option as ethnic cleansing will same time resolve the apartheid as well as Hamas issue.
Palestinians don't want a two state solution either, the reason the Israelis don't want a 2SS is pretty obvious, the reason the Palestinians don't want a 2SS is because they want Israel and the annihilation of the citizens of Israel.
So reverting to my initial question to you, what should the Israelis do, lay down their arms and let the Palestinians kill them?????
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6 minutes ago, niccodemi said:
In my opinion the core of the issue is the Israeli treatment of Palestinians on the occupied territories. If they either agreed on the two state solution or if all of them had same rights in one state it is much less likely that we would be witnessing events such as Intifadas and Oct 7th.
Strange how you never mention the rocket attacks from the Palestians on a regular basis. Neither side wants the two state solution as the Palestinians want to destroy Israel and kill all the Israelis, then all the Jews, then finally they will start on the non believers, be very careful what you wish for.
So basically you are justifying Oct 7th, is much less likely that we would be witnessing events such as Intifadas and Oct 7th.
So how do you think the Israelis should be handling this war, maybe lay down their arms and let the Palestians kill them?
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Just now, Gweiloman said:
Oh, now it’s genocide
You'd better believe it!
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8 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:Call it whatever you like. SMO, unprovoked invasion, teaching an errant child a lesson… can you answer the question? Reproduced here for your convenience:
unless you think Ukraine is better today and tomorrow than it was before the whatever you want to call it
Is Europe also better off today? Having to pay more for energy, oil, gas, defense, billions of dollars of ammunition and weaponry up in smoke, weaknesses of the military, financial systems exposed, the list goes on.
What a major strategic miscalculation by the collective west, pushing the world ever further and faster into a multipolar world.
Is Europe also better off today? Having to pay more for energy, oil, gas, defense, billions of dollars of ammunition and weaponry up in smoke, weaknesses of the military, financial systems exposed, the list goes on
What in heavens sake are you on, lower gas prices justifies the genocide of Ukrainians, have you lost your marbles, what a ridiculous comment!
Be honest with us, are you a Stalinist or Maoist because you certainly are not a realist!
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Just now, Hummin said:
Again, Read back on your own replies.
What sort of a reply is that apart from a cop out!
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Just now, Hummin said:
I cant help you if you feel like an failure, Im quite confident you are wrong! History is on my side, and so will world opinion as for now, Usa, yes I say Us first, because this would not be possible without them onboard!
Again, I have not invested in this conflict one side or the other! I repeat myself, Both sides is wrong, both sides commits war crimes!
I don't feel like a failure, what conclusions led you to that belief, could it be by getting an insult in early will enhance your opinions, well it won't, try and be an adult and debate without derogatory insults.
Both sides are not wrong, Israel is trying to stop a repeat performance of 7/10, don't worry it's only a matter of time before you see sense
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1 minute ago, Hummin said:
What you present here is the mirror effect!
And your wobblery gibbish you can take another place!
Just wasting my time in an never ending circle with single minded thinking stubborn old men!
We just have to wait and see how the world will see this in retrospect!
God save you all!
What ever you were trying to say you have failed miserably!
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1 minute ago, Neeranam said:In years to come, our grandkids will ask," grandad, why did people allow this to happen? "
Or maybe they'll ask why are terrorists being excused by people that believe everything that Al Jazeera and indeed the terrorists themselves tell them!
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2 hours ago, Hummin said:
Still we going in circles, because this war is not because of on singel terrorist attack. Even we go back decades, those incidents is because of massive destablilazing in the erea, so? How to proceed?
I have said before there is two solutions, both parts have to start from zero, or one part have to be zeroed, and obviously both parts work hard to accomplish the last scenario, but as long one part is stronger than the other, the other part win the media and propaganda war.
As said before, both parts is responsible for this war! And again, sad to see once more terrorism being rewarded.
This war is most certainly because of the 7/10 attack on Innocent Israeli civilians and why you chose to deny the absolute obvious event is only known to you. You have a terrible habit of plucking dates out of mid air that suits your agenda, without the Palestian attack none of this would be happening.
Your second paragraph is totally gibberish!
Both parties are not responsible for this war, the blame solely lies with the Hamas terrorists for without 7/10 none of this would be happening, why do you find it so difficult to comprehend this.
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43 minutes ago, Hummin said:
How long are you guys going to make apologies for Israel when they do war crimes?
The double standard and hypocrisy hurt Israel and the west more than anything else, especially when their supporters consequently continue making apologies for every mistake they do and for obviously war crimes.
The little respect we had left in the 3. World, slowly have degraded day by day the longer Israel continues their revenge like they have done until now.
Not revenge, Hamas has vowed to carry on these barbaric attacks and I'm sure you'll Agree none of us want that do we? Israel has no choice, the ball is in the terrorists hands.
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Just now, Neeranam said:Why not just post a link to your made up sources that say Israel said this attack was outside the safe zone?
I've posted one twice, what is the point of you trying to debate when you allegedly block everyone, if you cannot fight your corner what is the point of joining a debate?
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1 minute ago, Hawaiian said:
Wow, this is serious. Threats and warnings are not necessary. Just go ahead and block me.
They are only pretendy blocks. 😂😂😂😂
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Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War
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Nobody mentioned the SMO only you. We were talking about Putin never giving a time period to take Kyiv, and it has been proven he did say that, it doesn't matter when he said it, just admit he did say it and stop trying to wriggle out of the hole you have dug for yourself.
Incidentally do you actually believe what Putin says and why do you become protective of the murderous despot when someone challenges him.