siampolee

Well after reading your posts and just how you were involved in training these people in the art of warfare I must ask a simple question.which needs a simple shortanswer, either yes or no.

No high blown rhetoric to divert away from the question just a short answer..

Do you not consider that your paymasters and indeed yourself and your fellow trainers( possibly unwittingly) have in some way whether you like to admit it or not have actually helped these people to further their own ends to the cost of others peoples freedoms religious and otherwise?

All this talk of violent means to solve the problems all very fine.

However have any of the proponents of Israel starting a conflict with its self proclaimed enemies ever considered that the rest of the world is getting just a little tired of their people going to fight in a war for Israel?

Israel you made your bed now you must lay on it in it whatever,

I'm sure that if the average Israeli was asked to go to enlist so as to provoke hostilities they would suddenly find a need to return to the other country that they hold passports and right of entry for.

Would we, will we see a mass return of foreign Israeli nationals to Israel to join in a military campaign?

Somehow I doubt it.

Ask yourselves.

Why should the rest of the world put their own people at risk to satisfy a small segment of rabid ego driven self centred politicians?

We should not bow down to Netanyuha and his little clique,

Israel does not, nor ever has considered the views of other nations, it has and always is, '' Israel first'' the rest of the world and its views are insignificant in Israels eyes and mind.

Sorry Israel you want it all you go it alone,

Try to put as much effort and emotion into a reconciliation process as you do your hate campaign and you know what? You will find in time that all of the Semite races can and will live in harmony.

Arthur Scargill.

the pathetic specimen of manhood who used his political crusade to destroy an industry and its workers.

Scargill then went on to bleed the remnants of the union funds to facilitate his privileged lifestyle

Well in all seriousness I am nominating one special person now deceased sad to say but the memory lives on

He got wounded at El Alamain when the tank he was in was brewed up, he rescued his N.C.O from the tank as well as himself,he got an M.C. for his act and retired as a Major after W,W,2,

Wouldn't have a war film on the T.V. On came the film off went the T.V.

Worked bally hard for servicemen's charities and getting benefits for the victims of the war via his unpaid post in the R.B.L.for some 30 years

Never wore his medals and never talked about the war.

When he passed away his medals went to his cremation.When clearing up my mothers affairs some years later I found many documents and newspaper cuttings concerning his act. Only then did I begin to understand what he and many others like had been through and why at times he was a bit tetchy. The wounds both physical and mentally had left scars some visible some not and pain came and went.

That man was my father, truth be known there were indeed many fathers like him and let us be fair my mother too, mothers had their battles on the home front.

So I will nominate two great people,

My father and my mother and to be fair many of us perhaps have forgotten or possibly never knew just what our parents endured from 1939 to 1945 in the U.K. and elsewhere too.

In my opinion it is King George the 3rd.

Under his reign we lost the American colony, indeed he was a far sighted and wise man concerning his attitude to that colony.

tbthailand post # 2.

As for the country's politics, Jatuporn said he wanted Thailand to move forward and urged the general public to exercise restraint so as to avoid tension and conflict.

this mirrors the position Thaksin appeared to give a couple months ago. It's a strategic mistake. There is no reconciliation in progress here. Cooperation will not advance the country. The current regime is setting up the country to remain firmly under their control for the next decade. They don't need anyone's cooperation. They are in charge.

As for the country's politics, Jatuporn said he wanted Thailand to move forward and ordered the general public to exercise restraint so as to avoid tension and conflict.

This mirrors the position Thaksin was putting into place via his puppet proxy Prime Minister and his puppet proxy M.P.'s a year or so back.

There was no reconciliation in progress then and cooperation was extinct.

The Thaksin P.T.P. regime was setting up the country to remain firmly under the control of the Thaksin clan and their cronies for at least the next decade or until the money ran out.They didn't want or need anyone's cooperation. They were in charge.

You would no doubt within a week or two have successfully secured a place and time at one of the local temples for yourself and probably your next of kin too.

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Indeed we see yet again the tragic inheritance from the Great Rice pledging Scam Scheme.

The previous administration indeed do have ''blood upon their hands.''