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9 minutes ago, BritTim said:

I am not upset by your sarcasm. I have been known to indulge myself on occasion. However, let us recall the specific post that prompted my comment about the limited intellect of many Thai consular officials:

 

I humbly submit that a short certificate in English issued by the EU (the bloc adjacent to the UK) ought to be capable of comprehension by an intelligent official at the Thai embassy in the UK.

My only point here is, as I read through the threads and posts on this site I can't help but to notice there's a lot of disdaining rhetoric toward Asean's scattered throughout, I see a lot of it in Asean countries as well in a form as bullying mostly coming from those from a certain part of the globe.  

22 minutes ago, raptorea said:

I hear you but I dont have to prove covid vax for the e- visa so in theory I could apply for the e-visa around the 20th of Oct correct?

Sorry, for whatever reason I forgot and thought you were leaving on the 9th. since you're leaving on the 30th you have plenty of time, start it today.

I scraped my visa application because the time frame was getting too narrow and decided that I'll just deal with it there.

1 hour ago, raptorea said:

Another question? How soon should I apply for the Thai E-visa (Non O visa based on marriage) that I will need before I apply for the 1st part of the COE on Nov 9TH?  Thank you

You need to acquire your visa before you can apply for the COE. You'll be cutting it close, to close for my comfort. At least 2 weeks or so for the visa, and then COE process.

Going in exempt a possibility? Get extensions. Read through the forums weed out the miss info and DIY, it easier than it looks. Or go to a visa shop in BKK or CM, starting at about ฿3000 + ฿1900 for each visa they work on for you. 

1 hour ago, BritTim said:

It is based on long experience. I am not saying all Thai consular officials exhibit less than stellar intellectual abilities. However, their frequent inability to understand documents that are in a different form to those they are accustomed to is all too common.

I sincerely and humbly apologize for being so presumptuous. I had no idea you were culturally proficient in the complexities of the formation differences of the Thai language. My bad, I just assumed that Thai’s and even other national’s that grew up in a different cultural language scape have the same difficulties deciphering languages that I have when I go venturing abroad, knowing by applied experience, that learning and having full comprehension of the BKK Thai language one may have start at an early age. In comparison, I find translating simplified Chinese to English a breeze, rarely are there any miss communications and the language formations are somewhat similar, unlike Thai, I imagine they struggle with language translations just as much as anyone else even after years of schooling and living in a foreign land. same-same, right?     

12 hours ago, BritTim said:

Do not expect high intelligence from Thai consular officials.

This statement is indicative of narrow mindedness and barely archives a level of intelligence that's capable of understanding it's own lack thereof.

11 hours ago, Emeraldisle said:

Royal Thai Embassy, London has rejected your registration/application.

Due to Please submit first dose cert or local card/yellow book/letter with evidence of first dose vaccination.

 

I sent in a EU Digital Covid Certificate which states that I have had 2/2 . 

It also states " Date of vaccination, indicating date of the latest dose received. 2021-05-26"

 

Do these people not realise that it is not possible to get Covid Vaccination Certificate without two vaccines? Why do they want first dose informatio9n?

 

It seems like they want to make it as difficult as possible for people to get COE

 

I think it will be a long process but I'm not too worried about it. If it works it works. If not, go someplace else that maked life a bit easier

I'm sure the requirements are same in the UK as in the USA consulates. You need to provide both doses. It's possible they want to be sure the doses were not administered too far apart and done in a timely manner. 

15 minutes ago, raptorea said:

Thank you. ? Are you saying 15 business days or 15 calendar days? from the 1st pre approval to compete the 2nd step I guess I rolled the dice and bought my air already and booked paid my hotel and got my shaba ID but I still need to buy the covid 100,000 policy and book the rt-pcr tests that are required.

15 calendar days to complete the second step. After you get your vax card after the 9th, start the first phase, then the second phase after the the 15th. You'll have plenty of time, don't sweat it. 

40 minutes ago, raptorea said:

I am getting my 2nd dose both done in the USA and the 2nd dose will be on OCT 26th then I have to wait 14 days to file my COE according to the rules of having to wait 14 days after your 2nd dose, Which will be NOV 9th. My flight is booked and shaba hotel booked (Phuket) paid for. Hoping since my flight is booked for NOV 30th that I can get my COE all approved between Nov 9th when I submit and my fly date of NOV 30th. Does this seem to close to get an approval?  Thank you 

No, as long as you have everything in order and depending on the consulate it will take about 3 days if you don't get any rejection notices. About a week if you get one or two rejects, assuming that you can fix the errors. Some here are reporting speedy turnaround time with their consulates. At the time I did mine, I got a responses from the LA consulate within a day with each submission. I'm sure if things start to pick up, then it may take longer. 

May I mine you, there are two phases. Do not start the second phase until 15 days before you arrive in TH. When you complete the pre approval process you will get a notice/email or check it online stating that you have it "pre-approved your registration/application for COE" After you receive this notice DO NOT start the COE application process, DO NOT login out of curiosity before the 15 day mark, 15 days to the second. There is a 15 day/0 hours/0 minutes/0 seconds countdown timer when you login there. This is why it's suggested to wait to complete the pre approval process first, then make you booking after the approval notice. 

3 hours ago, britishjohn said:

I'm also waiting for final coe approval for phuket with my flight booked for 16th Oct.

 

I started the process on 3 Oct and received pre approval on the 4th.

I had initially assume that pre approval meant the documents I had submitted in stage 1 had been accepted.  It appears now from reading other accounts that may not be the case. 

 

I submitted travel info on 6th Oct and received an immediate email acknowledging receipt. Although I'm now beginning to think I should have started this process much earlier.

 

How long does it normally take to receive approval after you have submitted travel details? 

My COE was approved 26 hours after I started the 2nd phase/approval process. 

The process time on their end will most likely depend on how busy and how well staffed the consulat is.  

I got 30 day with AXA, the insurance certificates were in my inbox within seconds. After I arrive I'll acquire less expensive insurance in country, and it will take awhile to get the certificate though surly by the time AXA terminates.

I always book directly with the airlines, more flexibility and easier to manage rescheduling and cheaper in the long run. Internet agencies are a PTA at times, never again for me. I booked my flights on a 30 day turn-around and will reschedule the return once I'm in country. 

There's 2 phases of the COE process. 1st phase is the confirmation phase. During this phase you'll have however long it takes to get your doc's in order and accepted. Once the consulate confirms that you are eligible to apply you'll be on to the 2nd phase. The 2nd phase is the actual application for the COE, this is where you have 15 days to complete the application process. If you think you might have issues then don't start it until you're ready and you'll be departing in two weeks. Whenever you login you'll see a countdown timer. So it's advise that you're prepared. When I started the process I was a bit under the gun to get it done, though it's simple enough. It can take up to 3 days for them to get back to you for each submission, though typically 1 day. Example: you make a submission, they reject it for 2 or 3 reasons, then you fix it and resubmit it, potentially you're already 6 days in the process by the time they get back to you depending how busy the consulate is. During the 2nd phase whenever/if ever there's a problem with a submission it will be rejected for up to 15 days, if you're not confirmed by that time then you're out. The more mistakes or oversight someone has during the process, the longer it will take.  

If you're flying into Singapore to get to Phuket, then you'll need the PCR 48 hours before first departure. 72 hours before first departure to HKT. It's an imperative to know what the advisements and requirements are for each leg of the itinerary.  

Schedule and payment for 2 PCR's on the PSAS site. 1st at HKT, 2nd one (day 6 or day 7) at a site of your choice. I chose a place closest to my accommodation, first thing in the morning.

2 hours ago, Zyte said:

I am in exactly the same situation , I have a coe application in progress with a 14 night sha booking , I hope I don’t get an answer like yours , it makes me anxious. If you hit the confirm/ edit button it takes you into your original application  , you can then change things if you wish , it will not automatically change anything , all the uploaded documents stay the same  , you have to re enter flight details and the shaba code again. I have done this several times. Maybe the hotel will give you a new shaba code for 7 days , that might be do it , you could ask them for that. Maybe it is possible to re enter the same information and get it accepted this time. I might do that just re enter everything the same and hope it’s okay. Let me know how you get on , because I might have the same problem in a few days. Good luck with that.

I'm just going to leave everything as is since I already hove the COE certificate. I don't want to risk mucking things up since I only have a few days left before I cut on out of here. My only loss will possibly be about $150USD, considering that most places I've stayed at in TH have refunded for nights not stayed if I didn't stay the entire duration of the booking, though Phuket might be different.   

14 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

??

 

"They did approve the COE."

 

"Royal Thai Consulate-General, Los Angeles has rejected your registration/application.

 

In2021  I have had 2 COE's approved by the Los Angeles Thai Consulate.  Both applications were not smooth.  The first application was rejected 4 times and the second application was rejected once.  In the COE application process there appears to be no "grey" area and the standards are in black in white.  The current standards are:

 

1. Fully Vaccinated 7 days

2. Not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated 10 days.

 

Therefore, the Quarantine Hotel Booking must match your quarantine periods.

 

 

Well, I'm fully vaccinated, have a SHABA for 14 days and a COE certificate, my 2nd PCR for clearance is on the 7th day, the day I plan on splitting off to CM. 

7 minutes ago, bamboozled said:

Does everyone need the COE and all this other jazz? I am hoping to travel to the US sometime this month with a re-entry in Nov. I am double Pfizer vaxxed at this point, on a Non-O, married to a Thai citizen, and 53 years old. I suppose all this info is on a Thai gov. site somewhere?

 

Thanks (And good luck OP!)

Yes, for now. Start the COE process, 3 or 4 week before you plan your return. Do the first phase, getting approved. You'll get an email stating whether you have been approved or not. If you have not been approved then go into the site and do the edits (the yellow button) where you load all the required documents. Then after you get approved, no earlier than 15 days before you arrive in TH, go back into the coethailand.mfa.go.th site and start the second phase of the COE, because once you begin the second phase you only have 15 days to complete it and you'll have a lot of time to book the flight and such. Unlike me, I booked my flight first because I thought it would be a breeze, though the last couple of days I was beginning to sweat some bullets, a week out is too close for me. Thankfully for those who fallow, there's a lot of discussion in this forum with different experiences. 

19 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

"Yes, I got a notice stating that I can update by hitting the red Confirm/Edit travel button, but I don't want to touch it because I'm afraid it might mess something up. If I cut out of there to CM after the first 7 days, then it's only about a $150USD loss"

 

But it does not look like they will approve your COE with a 14 day booking?

Why wouldn't they approve it with a 14 day booking? My apologies, I don't quite understand the question ????

They did approve the COE. I booked for 14 days, doesn't mean I have to stay that long( I assume). I'm just out about 21 bucks a day that I don't stay and I just wanted to get this thing wrapped up ASAP so I could move on with my life. Chances are, I'm flying out the day of the second PCR clearance, which is first thing in the morning of the 7th day. 

There's no clear step by step documentation for the full process, just a simple basic summary. Not too bad though.   

10 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said:

The English is not really good, but basically, the consulate rejected your initial offer, as they wanted to give you the chance to change your SHA booking and reduce the number of nights to 7/10 instead of 15. Read again their full text "Good news!! FYI, from October 1st, 2021 onwards, the traveler who is going to Thailand with fully vaccinated will be quarantined only 7 nights, but for the traveler who unvaccinated will be quarantined at AQ hotel for 10 nights. If you are thinking that you still have time to change your hotel booking pls change," 

Actually an almost unheard of proactive effort of a consulate to help you save money on SHA costs

That actually occurred to me, but I wasn't sure what to make of it.

For me, it seems easier to decipher translated Thai to English in CM than it is with a some of the mangled stuff I got from the Thai consulate in LA. It might be an adaptive thing on my part.

12 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

"I booked for 14 nights"

 

See if you can change your booking for 7 days and resubmit?  

 

Yes, I got a notice stating that I can update by hitting the red Confirm/Edit travel button, but I don't want to touch it because I'm afraid it might mess something up. If I cut out of there to CM after the first 7 days, then it's only about a $150USD loss

Well nevermind. The email I got stating that the COE was rejected just a notice of a possibility I guess, though it through me in a bit of panic, with so little time left

Just got the "Royal Thai Consulate-General, Los Angeles has approved your COE to enter Thailand." though the process wasn't any fun. The next go-around should be a breaz though

The first line...   "Royal Thai Consulate-General, Los Angeles has rejected your registration/application."

After I did the CoE Pre-approved I submitted the following documents 

Submitted all flight details.  

Input the reference number from the SHABA certificate that the hotel sent 

Upload the PSAS PCR booking receipt. (submitted the receipt with the QR code on the sheet)

Insurance documents were already in from the first phase

then I got a rejected notice stating:

"Royal Thai Consulate-General, Los Angeles has rejected your registration/application.

Due to Good news!! FYI, from October 1st, 2021 onwards, the traveler who is going to Thailand with fully vaccinated will be quarantined only 7 nights, but for the traveler who unvaccinated will be quarantined at AQ hotel for 10 nights. If you are thinking that you still have time to change your hotel booking pls change, but if it too rush! You can ask the hotel to refund including RT-PCR Test receipt after you have arrived. Thank you"

It really doesn't specify what I did wrong, or am I missing something?

I am fully vaccinated and submitted the docs on the first phase

Submitted the flight details

I booked for 14 nights

And I paid for the PCR tests.

There must be something wrong with my booking, but I don't see it.

My flight leaves 13 of October and am starting to get panicky.

I just don't see what I did wrong here, any help would be greatly appreciated